Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?

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Who wins the fight? Zion or McGregor

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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#421 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue May 19, 2020 10:56 pm

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In SVG We Trust wrote:Guys you can believe or not, I mean I wouldn't trust someone who's writing this in a forum, but I've been in a lot of street fights. I had a broke nose, a cut in the eyebrow, a tooth in a half...

I've been with pro athletes with international recognition and titles, and they have said something about a security guard who was like a gorilla; you DON'T want to fight a guy like that. No matter how good you're at fighting, if you don't have a respectable size atleast to fight back a monster like that, you're gonna be in trouble.

That's because I asked them if they would fight that guy, expecting they would say it would be an easy knockout.

Seriously, a gorilla or a bear don't know how to fight and no human on this planet could fight one.

The difference between McGregor and Zion is MASSIVE. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying, at any moment, the bigger guy always win. We're talking about guys with elite athleticism, very coordinate with a lot of explosiveness in their moves.




Gorilla's can weigh 500lbs, Bears can weigh 1100lbs and both bite.


Using animals makes no sense, because Pitbulls at 60-80lbs can kill people 3-4x their size, and almost no fighter or person on earth would want to be in the ring/cage with an enraged male Chimp, and they only get to be about 180lbs.

You could change your username to LiteralMan.

Also check the recent studios about chimps. Yes they're stronger than humans but not that much.





You made a comical point, hey guys nobody wants to fight the 500-1100lbs animals with massive teeth :lol:


And since we're being literal, what studios are these chimps running, video game or movie? 8-)
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#423 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue May 19, 2020 11:30 pm

og15 wrote:Lol, 20 pages, is it people trying to explain to others the difference between being a professional fighter and a person who has no actual fighting skill?

Come on, how does anyone think Zion wins? McGregor does it for a living, your size doesn't make your jaw any less susceptible or your defense good, or your striking accurate. McGregor will know how to stay away from anything Zion could possibly attempt and know how to disable him, this would be "light work".


Besides that, being in shape for one sport doesn''t translate ccleanly to another discipline. Zion's shape is questionable enough for his own sport, 30 seconds of grappling or striking when you have no idea what you're doing, and you're complete toast. : :lol:
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#424 » by StojkoVrankovic » Wed May 20, 2020 12:12 am

So a guy who has never thrown a punch in his life is going to beat up a professional MMA fighter because he is bigger?

Zion would have trouble with Kayla Harrison, let alone McGregor.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#425 » by Suprasc1 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:10 am

StojkoVrankovic wrote:So a guy who has never thrown a punch in his life is going to beat up a professional MMA fighter because he is bigger?

Zion would have trouble with Kayla Harrison, let alone McGregor.


Lies! He would get destroyed so bad. Mayweather ate him apart
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#426 » by Saint Lazarus » Wed May 20, 2020 1:14 am

In SVG We Trust wrote:Seriously, we're not talking about an average NBA player. Have you seen Zion play? He goes through A LOT OF CONTACT of guys who weights McGregor's twice.

Stop this nonsense. Fedor was a heavyweight, he would ate McGregor in a round.

I mean, Yao Ming doesn't have a single possibility against Tyson Fury. That's because Tyson Fury is STRONG enough to knockout everyone on the earth. McGregor isn't.


I'm going to have to see some evidence on your muay Thai experience if you're gonna say something like this.

Does Zion get hit in the head on a routine basis when driving to the basket? Does he get routinely tackled while boxing out for a rebound? Is he getting choked out while jumping for a block shot? The **** you mean he goes through a lot of contact when playing basketball?
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#427 » by chitownsalesmen » Wed May 20, 2020 1:15 am

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StojkoVrankovic wrote:So a guy who has never thrown a punch in his life is going to beat up a professional MMA fighter because he is bigger?

Zion would have trouble with Kayla Harrison, let alone McGregor.


Lies! He would get destroyed so bad. Mayweather ate him apart


If you think Mayweather ate Conor, I don't think you'd be able to watch what he would do to Zion.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#428 » by Suprasc1 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:17 am

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In SVG We Trust wrote:Seriously, we're not talking about an average NBA player. Have you seen Zion play? He goes through A LOT OF CONTACT of guys who weights McGregor's twice.

Stop this nonsense. Fedor was a heavyweight, he would ate McGregor in a round.

I mean, Yao Ming doesn't have a single possibility against Tyson Fury. That's because Tyson Fury is STRONG enough to knockout everyone on the earth. McGregor isn't.


I'm going to have to see some evidence on your muay Thai experience if you're gonna say something like this.

Does Zion get hit in the head on a routine basis when driving to the basket? Does he get routinely tackled while boxing out for a rebound? Is he getting choked out while jumping for a block shot? The **** you mean he goes through a lot of contact when playing basketball?


He means that a post elbow from Shaq/Malone and a wild simple elbow swing from ron attest would liberally put conor in the hospital bed
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#429 » by Saint Lazarus » Wed May 20, 2020 1:24 am

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In SVG We Trust wrote:Seriously, we're not talking about an average NBA player. Have you seen Zion play? He goes through A LOT OF CONTACT of guys who weights McGregor's twice.

Stop this nonsense. Fedor was a heavyweight, he would ate McGregor in a round.

I mean, Yao Ming doesn't have a single possibility against Tyson Fury. That's because Tyson Fury is STRONG enough to knockout everyone on the earth. McGregor isn't.


I'm going to have to see some evidence on your muay Thai experience if you're gonna say something like this.

Does Zion get hit in the head on a routine basis when driving to the basket? Does he get routinely tackled while boxing out for a rebound? Is he getting choked out while jumping for a block shot? The **** you mean he goes through a lot of contact when playing basketball?


He means that a post elbow from Shaq/Malone and a wild simple elbow swing from ron attest would liberally put conor in the hospital bed


So Zion is going to post Conor up and then throw an elbow? Lmao.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#430 » by Suprasc1 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:29 am

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I'm going to have to see some evidence on your muay Thai experience if you're gonna say something like this.

Does Zion get hit in the head on a routine basis when driving to the basket? Does he get routinely tackled while boxing out for a rebound? Is he getting choked out while jumping for a block shot? The **** you mean he goes through a lot of contact when playing basketball?


He means that a post elbow from Shaq/Malone and a wild simple elbow swing from ron attest would liberally put conor in the hospital bed


So Zion is going to post Conor up and then throw an elbow? Lmao.


He's going to get 1 good lucky uppercut and break his face c'mon now. If that doesn't happen.. Just get on the ground and body slam him.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#431 » by chitownsalesmen » Wed May 20, 2020 1:46 am

Suprasc1 wrote:
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He means that a post elbow from Shaq/Malone and a wild simple elbow swing from ron attest would liberally put conor in the hospital bed


So Zion is going to post Conor up and then throw an elbow? Lmao.


He's going to get 1 good lucky uppercut and break his face c'mon now. If that doesn't happen.. Just get on the ground and body slam him.



yeah go to the ground against a world class mma champion.

can't imagine that going bad for zion.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#432 » by Suprasc1 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:50 am

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So Zion is going to post Conor up and then throw an elbow? Lmao.


He's going to get 1 good lucky uppercut and break his face c'mon now. If that doesn't happen.. Just get on the ground and body slam him.



yeah go to the ground against a world class mma champion.

can't imagine that going bad for zion.


He fights 140lb 5'6 guys lol. 6'6 270lbs would be too strong
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Post#433 » by SichtingLives » Wed May 20, 2020 1:52 am

Zion can't fight and many of you can't think. Carry on.
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Post#434 » by Suprasc1 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:53 am

Look up " Shaq vs mma fighters" on YouTube and you will awe2
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Post#435 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed May 20, 2020 2:03 am

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euroleague wrote:Zion was 285 when he was cutting weight, pre-injury. He’s big.

Mike Tyson walked around at 250. He competed at 220. mike Tyson would destroy Canelo. I don’t even remotely see the point of the ‘if mike Tyson could beat him, so could Canelo’.

Tyson was power incarnate. One punch king. I said ‘if you can take zion out/drop him with 1-3 punches, you’ll win’. Then you bring up mike Tyson?

That wasn’t a real fight. Football athletes don’t fight seriously with random people on the street


There's no need to make things up, Mike Tyson didn't walk around at 250 during his prime, he would be 225 at most. Heavyweights usually walk around at their fighting weight or within 10lbs of it, because there's no advantage to ballooning up in weight and having to take it off in 3 months. The reason why fighters have such drastic weigh loss is to compete at lower weight classes, heavyweights don't have to do that.

Because Canelo is a trained fighter with world class power, as seen by moving up from Junior welterweight to light heavyweight and still knocking people out. Just being bigger than someone doesn't mean you can take a punch, Canelo may not be Mike Tyson to other fighters, but to someone that has never fought professionally he may as well have the death touch.

It wasn't a real fight? :lol: Come on man, he was very obviously fighting for real, and there's plenty more of football players losing on the net, somebody already posted Roger Huerta at 170lbs knocking some 240lbs football player, here it is again -



You say 10lbs from fighting weight... and Tyson fought at around 225 against guys in the 240+ bracket. Canelo fights at 165. If you’re trying to equate them, this argument is beyond ridiculous.



Tyson's walk around weight was within 10 pounds of his fighting weight, there is no cap on how much someone can weigh in the heavyweight division. For instance, 7'0" 316lbs Nikola Valuev lost and almost got knocked out by 6'3" 217lbs David Haye in their fight -

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Nikola also lost to this man on the right -
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Canelo fights at 175, he's a light heavyweight now, and most likely rehydrates back up to 185-190 on fight night, which means he's around 200lbs when he's not trying to make weight. A 200lbs man hitting anyone is enough to knock someone out, let alone someone who has no real chin endurance, Canelo is the size of previous generation heavyweights from the 40s-60s before guys like Sonny Liston started showing up.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#436 » by euroleague » Wed May 20, 2020 2:07 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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There's no need to make things up, Mike Tyson didn't walk around at 250 during his prime, he would be 225 at most. Heavyweights usually walk around at their fighting weight or within 10lbs of it, because there's no advantage to ballooning up in weight and having to take it off in 3 months. The reason why fighters have such drastic weigh loss is to compete at lower weight classes, heavyweights don't have to do that.

Because Canelo is a trained fighter with world class power, as seen by moving up from Junior welterweight to light heavyweight and still knocking people out. Just being bigger than someone doesn't mean you can take a punch, Canelo may not be Mike Tyson to other fighters, but to someone that has never fought professionally he may as well have the death touch.

It wasn't a real fight? :lol: Come on man, he was very obviously fighting for real, and there's plenty more of football players losing on the net, somebody already posted Roger Huerta at 170lbs knocking some 240lbs football player, here it is again -



You say 10lbs from fighting weight... and Tyson fought at around 225 against guys in the 240+ bracket. Canelo fights at 165. If you’re trying to equate them, this argument is beyond ridiculous.



Tyson's walk around weight was within 10 pounds of his fighting weight, there is no cap on how much someone can weigh in the heavyweight division. For instance, 7'0" 316lbs Nikola Valuev lost and almost got knocked out by 6'3" 217lbs David Haye in their fight -

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Nikola also lost to this man on the right -
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Canelo fights at 175, he's a light heavyweight now, and most likely rehydrates back up to 185-190 on fight night, which means he's around 200lbs when he's not trying to make weight. A 200lbs man hitting anyone is enough to knock someone out, let alone someone who has no real chin endurance, Canelo is the size of previous generation heavyweights from the 40s-60s before guys like Sonny Liston started showing up.


They lost boxing matches. I’d bet on Canelo to win by points... but this isn’t a boxing match. Mike Tyson walked around at 250, and would obliterate Canelo..,
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Post#437 » by euroleague » Wed May 20, 2020 2:08 am

Suprasc1 wrote:Look up " Shaq vs mma fighters" on YouTube and you will awe2

Shaq did some mma, but he’s no longer in shape. I’d take peak Shaq over any non-heavyweight in an mma fight
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#438 » by In SVG We Trust » Wed May 20, 2020 2:11 am

All the people posting with the argument "obviously the pro fighter wins" has never been close to fight sports more than drinking beer and thinking WWE was a real thing before Pride and UFC get popularity.

Seriously you can't fight that weight back. I don't know how many Bruce Lee movies have you seen guys, but I can guarantee that Bruce Lee wasn't able to beat Kareem. And we're talking about the greatest martial artist ever.

Again, are we talking about Zion fighting Cormier? Damn he doesn't have a chance. But McGregor is SMALL. Forget all the bs you have seen in the movies, and the that laughable thinking.

Hey, Saenchai, maybe the greatest technical fighter (muay fimeu at his best), is conceded some weight to his opponents. But in his last years he's fighting mostly foreigners who wants some recognition, he's not fighting any top class fighter of those categories.

And being as good as Saenchai is, he wouldn't be able to fight Yassine Boughanem. If you think he could, congratulations, you're a delusional kid flashed by Hollywood.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#439 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed May 20, 2020 2:17 am

euroleague wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
euroleague wrote:
You say 10lbs from fighting weight... and Tyson fought at around 225 against guys in the 240+ bracket. Canelo fights at 165. If you’re trying to equate them, this argument is beyond ridiculous.



Tyson's walk around weight was within 10 pounds of his fighting weight, there is no cap on how much someone can weigh in the heavyweight division. For instance, 7'0" 316lbs Nikola Valuev lost and almost got knocked out by 6'3" 217lbs David Haye in their fight -

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Nikola also lost to this man on the right -
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Canelo fights at 175, he's a light heavyweight now, and most likely rehydrates back up to 185-190 on fight night, which means he's around 200lbs when he's not trying to make weight. A 200lbs man hitting anyone is enough to knock someone out, let alone someone who has no real chin endurance, Canelo is the size of previous generation heavyweights from the 40s-60s before guys like Sonny Liston started showing up.


They lost boxing matches. I’d bet on Canelo to win by points... but this isn’t a boxing match. Mike Tyson walked around at 250, and would obliterate Canelo..,



You keep saying Tyson walked around at 250, yet didn't even know Canelo fights at 175lbs, Mike never weighed 250lbs at any point in his prime, there's no way Cus or Rooney would let him get that big when his entire style was dependent on speed and quickness :lol:

Canelo would knock Zion out, you put MMA or Boxers in street fights against untrained people and it's either going to be ugly. But, it's good to know some of you think that being big matters the most, since I'm big and trained :lol:
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#440 » by In SVG We Trust » Wed May 20, 2020 2:20 am

NoDope please stop this nonsense. You're talking about 20lb or something around like it was nothing... Even 6lb can be massive advantage when we're talking about elite pro fighters.

So you name, McGregor, then name Canelo, then Shogun Rua, and your final conclusion would be McGregor is pretty close to Zion's size.

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