Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?

[In SVG We Trust]

Over and over again. A video with a random big guy is ridiculous, seriously. I've told y'all so many times, and you still disrespecting yourselves with that opinion.

A RANDOM BIG GUY ISN'T ZION WILLIAMSON. He's one of the best prospects ever mainly to his physical atributes and he's a massive force of the nature.

McGregor would beat up anybody on the planet of his size or some more without experience. He can beat your heavyweight cousin, who trains boxing Mondays and Wednesdays. He can beat that big guy who goes to the gym.

We're not talking about a random big guy, but Zion Williamson. If you think being an elite, top notch athlete in a sports played mainly by giants, well... Hollywood is inside your brain.

Also why someone who can earn so much money in the NBA without risking his body that much would choose MMA instead of basketball? You would be an idiot even if you have all the tools to be a great fighter.

You can huff and puff but we have seen really big guys who were actually trained fighters getting taken down by much smaller opponents. Here Akebono, who is roughly twice Zions weight and has actual combat training and experience, vs Gracie:

Watch on YouTube

But I am sure you will find another pathetic excuse how your ramblings mean more than actual real world events.

Gracie was way more strong than McGregor.

It would be amazing if you guys don't quote just some sentences and read my whole messages. I explained very clear all the different situations.

Big guys are not Zion, and Zion wouldn't have a chance against a pro fighter with a respectable size.

If you seriously think McGregor at that size and weight is strong enough to fight a monster like Zion, you shouldn't watch a movie anymore. Transporter isn't real.

[Spice Melange]

Why people here have such a low IQ? Why u still comparing Zion with some big guys of a YouTube street fight or to an average NBA player?
....
But that's the truth, and NO ONE wants to fight such a big guys. I've seen a security guard (with no longer fighter experience) grab one guy (a stupid kick boxing fighter on cocaine, very famous where I live because he's always getting troubles to the others) and go against him, grab it and throw to the floor like a potatoes bag.

Do you see the irony in your post? You're saying people have low IQ because theyre comparing a big guy to Zion while youre out here comparing random third world country fighter to a former UFC champion?

We get it. Zion is the strongest man to ever exist and his basketball skills translate over to professional MMA like nothing. We also get it youve fought Tyson Fury, Fedor Emilianenko, JJ Watt, and Osama Bin Laden in the back alley and have all the criteria to be the definitive answer on this topic.

and also in regard to your other statement

"Also why someone who can earn so much money in the NBA without risking his body that much would choose MMA instead of basketball? You would be an idiot even if you have all the tools to be a great fighter."

Maybe because its their passion. Maybe just maybe they enjoy combat sports more. People dont always like what YOU think theyre suited for.

Get over yourself.

Quote the whole message.

Quoting the whole message doesnt change anything.

"A RANDOM BIG GUY ISN'T ZION WILLIAMSON. He's one of the best prospects ever mainly to his physical atributes and he's a massive force of the nature.

McGregor would beat up anybody on the planet of his size or some more without experience. He can beat your heavyweight cousin, who trains boxing Mondays and Wednesdays. He can beat that big guy who goes to the gym.

We're not talking about a random big guy, but Zion Williamson. If you think being an elite, top notch athlete in a sports played mainly by giants, well... Hollywood is inside your brain."


A RANDOM "SMALL GUY" ISNT CONOR MCGREGOR. Hes a former champion at the highest level of combat sports.

Were not talking about a random small guy, but Conor McGregor. If you think being an elite, top notch athlete in a sport played by people brutally assaulting each other well...

[2Mas]

I'm taking Zion.

Shoulda been a poll op.

[BoardCrusher]

Why people here have such a low IQ? Why u still comparing Zion with some big guys of a YouTube street fight or to an average NBA player?

It's getting a pathetic discussion; one guy posted a long boring message about how adults can't understand and lacks of experience and blablabla.

Dude, I'm 30, I've been in fights with gipsies, I've been fighting in the streets since I was I kid, I've seen knifes, baseball bats. Got enough scars. Obviously you're not gonna trust me, and I wouldn't if I read something like this, for sure.

But that's the truth, and NO ONE wants to fight such a big guys. I've seen a security guard (with no longer fighter experience) grab one guy (a stupid kick boxing fighter on cocaine, very famous where I live because he's always getting troubles to the others) and go against him, grab it and throw to the floor like a potatoes bag.

I'm not saying you can compare that guy to McGregor, but how many humans can be compared to Zion?

Guys why you s**t on science? Strength=mxa. That's just the truth. And the truth is, if you don't have enough size and weight to stop it, Zion would run against you like a bull.

"But but but McGregor have a lot of experience and know the angles and he would give him a lowkick..."

I never thought some people could be that blinded by Hollywood. Man, the biggest almost always win. Those videos are famous for a reason; they are anomalies.

omfg pure comedy gold right here, lmfao and he says we have low IQ, hilarious for a 30 yo man to need to prove himself like this

[madmaxmedia]

Gracie was way more strong than McGregor.

It would be amazing if you guys don't quote just some sentences and read my whole messages. I explained very clear all the different situations.

Big guys are not Zion, and Zion wouldn't have a chance against a pro fighter with a respectable size.

If you seriously think McGregor at that size and weight is strong enough to fight a monster like Zion, you shouldn't watch a movie anymore. Transporter isn't real.

Security guards are trained to deal with that situation and are prepared for a fight. They know exactly what to do and how to do it.

I actually respect your opinion, and take your claims of experience at face value. I just think you’re underestimating the emotional aspect of it, as well as Zion not knowing the basics of combat as you do. Is he gonna know what he should do to give himself the best chance, and not hesitate (if only for an instant) if he takes a stiff punch in the face?

I think you’re assuming he’s going to do the right thing, and if he does then yes he would be a formidable opponent. But I think most of us assume that he’s not going to automatically do the right things when thrown into a brawl, because he’s a basketball player.

[SCTwins]

Over and over again. A video with a random big guy is ridiculous, seriously. I've told y'all so many times, and you still disrespecting yourselves with that opinion.

A RANDOM BIG GUY ISN'T ZION WILLIAMSON. He's one of the best prospects ever mainly to his physical atributes and he's a massive force of the nature.

McGregor would beat up anybody on the planet of his size or some more without experience. He can beat your heavyweight cousin, who trains boxing Mondays and Wednesdays. He can beat that big guy who goes to the gym.

We're not talking about a random big guy, but Zion Williamson. If you think being an elite, top notch athlete in a sports played mainly by giants, well... Hollywood is inside your brain.

Also why someone who can earn so much money in the NBA without risking his body that much would choose MMA instead of basketball? You would be an idiot even if you have all the tools to be a great fighter.

Let me know when Zion gets cracked in the head how much his athleticism helps him.

You've never even seen Zion throw or take a punch. Do you think he's just going to run full speed at a professional fighter and tackle him or something? Or jump up and land on them?? Lol

Roger Huerta fought at 170 and was known as a grappler.. He knocked out a college linebacker in about 8 seconds in a street fight. Video is on YouTube.

These are professional fighters. They literally train to hurt people every day, and spar and grapple with people larger than them, of all different fighting styles.

I'm sure there are some lower level 135'ers in the UFC that Zion could manhandle, but I wouldn't throw much money on it. I know for a fact that Cejudo would ankle pick him to the ground in a nanosecond.

This is a hilariously stupid discussion.

[In SVG We Trust]

I'm done with this discussion. Just an advise guys: always respect the size.

[Ugalde]

this is what i’d recommend for any sane person here. take down the names of everyone who thinks Zion has a shot and just never listen to their opinion again. they’re either a troll or have no idea what they are talking about and their opinion on anything would be a waste of time for you to even have to read.

[chitownsalesmen]

I'm done with this discussion. Just an advise guys: always respect the size.

god help him if Fury posted up.

[Spice Melange]

Over and over again. A video with a random big guy is ridiculous, seriously. I've told y'all so many times, and you still disrespecting yourselves with that opinion.

A RANDOM BIG GUY ISN'T ZION WILLIAMSON. He's one of the best prospects ever mainly to his physical atributes and he's a massive force of the nature.

McGregor would beat up anybody on the planet of his size or some more without experience. He can beat your heavyweight cousin, who trains boxing Mondays and Wednesdays. He can beat that big guy who goes to the gym.

We're not talking about a random big guy, but Zion Williamson. If you think being an elite, top notch athlete in a sports played mainly by giants, well... Hollywood is inside your brain.

Also why someone who can earn so much money in the NBA without risking his body that much would choose MMA instead of basketball? You would be an idiot even if you have all the tools to be a great fighter.

Let me know when Zion gets cracked in the head how much his athleticism helps him.

You've never even seen Zion throw or take a punch. Do you think he's just going to run full speed at a professional fighter and tackle him or something? Or jump up and land on them?? Lol

Roger Huerta fought at 170 and was known as a grappler.. He knocked out a college linebacker in about 8 seconds in a street fight. Video is on YouTube.

These are professional fighters. They literally train to hurt people every day, and spar and grapple with people larger than them, of all different fighting styles.

I'm sure there are some lower level 135'ers in the UFC that Zion could manhandle, but I wouldn't throw much money on it. I know for a fact that Cejudo would ankle pick him to the ground in a nanosecond.

This is a hilariously stupid discussion.

Seriously. A lot of people seem to think Conors only option is to punch too, whats to say Zion doesnt get met with a well timed flying knee to the head? Does a flying knee impact from a 170 lb guy have no effect on Zions skull?

People are assuming Zion also has a well trained chin. Not everyone is built equally thats the difference between a guy like Amir Khan in boxing and Tony Ferguson in MMA, some guys know how to take a hit and some dont. Hell one professional MMA kick to Zions knees and all his physical advantage goes out the window when he cant walk.

[Spice Melange]

I'm done with this discussion. Just an advise guys: always respect the size.

Its hilarious you keep warning us about movies and respecting the size as if any of us are looking to pick a fight with a big guy/professional athletes.

No, we have common sense. We, the untrained people, would not try to square up with JJ Watt or something or even a small guy with a professional background.

Its your dumb mentality that should heed caution, getting in to lots of fights and just assuming people are weak because they're smaller.

Im 6'0 200lbs and i wouldnt try to pick a fight with Zhang Weili because I respect peoples skills.

[Pg81]

Over and over again. A video with a random big guy is ridiculous, seriously. I've told y'all so many times, and you still disrespecting yourselves with that opinion.

A RANDOM BIG GUY ISN'T ZION WILLIAMSON. He's one of the best prospects ever mainly to his physical atributes and he's a massive force of the nature.

McGregor would beat up anybody on the planet of his size or some more without experience. He can beat your heavyweight cousin, who trains boxing Mondays and Wednesdays. He can beat that big guy who goes to the gym.

We're not talking about a random big guy, but Zion Williamson. If you think being an elite, top notch athlete in a sports played mainly by giants, well... Hollywood is inside your brain.

Also why someone who can earn so much money in the NBA without risking his body that much would choose MMA instead of basketball? You would be an idiot even if you have all the tools to be a great fighter.

You can huff and puff but we have seen really big guys who were actually trained fighters getting taken down by much smaller opponents. Here Akebono, who is roughly twice Zions weight and has actual combat training and experience, vs Gracie:

Watch on YouTube

But I am sure you will find another pathetic excuse how your ramblings mean more than actual real world events.

Gracie was way more strong than McGregor.

It would be amazing if you guys don't quote just some sentences and read my whole messages. I explained very clear all the different situations.

Big guys are not Zion, and Zion wouldn't have a chance against a pro fighter with a respectable size.

If you seriously think McGregor at that size and weight is strong enough to fight a monster like Zion, you shouldn't watch a movie anymore. Transporter isn't real.

Again Zion for all we know knows nothing about fighting. He has no idea how to defend himself, will have awful footwork, does not know how to defend against any kind of technique, etc. Akebono is heavier and stronger than Zion and the difference in size/strength between Akebono and Gracie is bigger than between Connor and Zion. Worse, Akebono is an actually trained fighter who is used to getting hit. It is safe to assume that Zion like most people will start to panic once he gets a solid punch to the face. As the saying goes "everybody has a plan until they get hit in the face". Zion will be no different. He is not trained to ignore pain and injuries like an actual pro fighter is. Once his nose is broken and/or his rib/ribs is/are cracked he will fall pretty quickly. Also you are harping on and on about his mass, when his weak spots are as weak as anyone else and woe if he has a glass chin, then he will have no chance whatsoever.

[King4Day]

Just because he's bigger doesn't mean he knows how to use his weight. Connor would destroy him.
He can handle a bunch of wild swings by Zion and as he gets tired, Connor either knocks him out or takes his back and puts him out.
I'd give Connor the win fairly quickly.

People picking Zion might be thinking he's landing all of his punches. He'll be lucky to land a single one cleanly. Connor is very evasive. Unless he just dives on, and smothers Connor, he won't win. And as mediocre a takedown defender Connor appears to be, he would be just fine defending Zion's wildness in a brawl.

We've seen Connor with rules. I'd fear for my life if he was allowed to go at someone no holds barred.

[Topofthekey]

Punching people is literally part of McGregor's job description

I'd say the fight is his to lose

Also depends on how dirty they are allowed to fight

If it's a no holds barred punch each other till only one remains standing kind of fight, a swift kick to the knees at the beginning of the fight will cripple Zion

McGregor can then take his time to finish the fight

Basically McGregor needs to go in for the vital hits early on and not waste time and energy landing useless body blows

[azcatz11]

Punching people is literally part of McGregor's job description

I'd say the fight is his to lose

Also depends on how dirty they are allowed to fight

If it's a no holds barred punch each other till only one remains standing kind of fight, a swift kick to the knees at the beginning of the fight will cripple Zion

McGregor can then take his time to finish the fight

Basically McGregor needs to go in for the vital hits early on and not waste time and energy landing useless body blows

Zion can charge Connor full speed and potentially knock him out in 2 seconds...

[D.Brasco]

Why don't people who are so convinced that size trumps everything just admit that Tacko Falls is a better basketball player than Zion? I mean 7'5">6'6".

Skills and actually knowing how to do anything don't matter, just the taller heavier guy for everything.

[Pg81]

Punching people is literally part of McGregor's job description

I'd say the fight is his to lose

Also depends on how dirty they are allowed to fight

If it's a no holds barred punch each other till only one remains standing kind of fight, a swift kick to the knees at the beginning of the fight will cripple Zion

McGregor can then take his time to finish the fight

Basically McGregor needs to go in for the vital hits early on and not waste time and energy landing useless body blows

Zion can charge Connor full speed and potentially knock him out in 2 seconds...

A blind bumbling charge will result with a knee or a fist landing squarely in Zion's face. If that is a good clean hit the Zion is out in less than a second.

[azcatz11]

Punching people is literally part of McGregor's job description

I'd say the fight is his to lose

Also depends on how dirty they are allowed to fight

If it's a no holds barred punch each other till only one remains standing kind of fight, a swift kick to the knees at the beginning of the fight will cripple Zion

McGregor can then take his time to finish the fight

Basically McGregor needs to go in for the vital hits early on and not waste time and energy landing useless body blows

Zion can charge Connor full speed and potentially knock him out in 2 seconds...

A blind bumbling charge will result with a knee or a fist landing squarely in Zion's face face. If that is a good clean hit the Zion is out in less than a second.

If he doesn't get that knee he's done.

[speedfiend]

Punching people is literally part of McGregor's job description

I'd say the fight is his to lose

Also depends on how dirty they are allowed to fight

If it's a no holds barred punch each other till only one remains standing kind of fight, a swift kick to the knees at the beginning of the fight will cripple Zion

McGregor can then take his time to finish the fight

Basically McGregor needs to go in for the vital hits early on and not waste time and energy landing useless body blows

Zion can charge Connor full speed and potentially knock him out in 2 seconds...

A charge means you are going into your opponent head first, with arms outstretched and unable to protect your head. it's also one of the slowest form of attack, since you need to get all your body mess moving in one direction, and try to quickly build up momentum to close distance. Once committed to a full on charge, it's also difficult to change direction or stop.

Wrestlers and Judo practitioners will sometimes shoot into their opponent because they know there's no fist or elbow or foot or knee waiting for their head at the other end.

[howlin mad axer]

Has Zion ever been in a fight? Seriously. McGregor may be half Zion's size but McGregor is a trained fighter. It always seems strange to me when people look at a big guy and expect him to be a great fighter and ask questions like this.