WargamesX wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:
I hate Perry but this is what we got. I hated the Knox pick, THJ signing, Randle signing, etc, but at some point, guess we just have to wait and see. I do hope that Rose won't scapegoat Perry if things go south, though.
THJr was all Mills. After Phil was fired, before Mills was hired. The other points are valid.
In both cases he chose a player’s who ceiling is 3rd option and paid them to be a second/first option and the player couldn’t handle the role. THJ is doing well in Dallas because he is a third option asked to spread the floor. Here we wanted him to be the second option next to KP and once KP went down the first option. THJ doesn’t suck, what we asked him to do was unrealistic.
Now we have Randle who is clearly talented and we’re undervaluing him because they are asking him to be the first option and don’t even have 3’pts to spread the floor for him. It’s almost a joke how bad Mills was at understanding the concept of “fit” when it came to players. That was the underlying issue with us signing so many PF. It didn’t fit at all.
Same for the approach to the youth. We were asking players to develop and take on roles that didn’t match their ability or strengths. I am hoping that changes buts is just annoying how we as fans knew this and the Mills FO could t wrap their heads around it these last few years.
Agreeing with you, just adding.
Again, which was a Perry thing and which was a Mills thing, and is Perry "ok" without Mills around having the final say so or push on certain guys.
I KNOW THjr was a Mills solo act.
I don't know if Randle was "more Mills than Perry" "All Mills again" or "Mills and Perry together".
It sure FEELS like a Mills move, with your take of overpaying guys based on their true # in the offense.
Also, THJr was only kind of mildly overpaid per year, and even Mills said it was high now but would be "value later as he gets better" But that's a helluva bet to take, especially with the FOUR year commitment.
I issue with Mills, more than the players themselves, is Mills lack of feel for the timing of the rebuild and cap implications, though Randle seems a bit better in this regard, in that Mills was trying to get the team on the upswing and also Randle is really only a 2 year deal, with kind of inconsequential 4, or is it 5 million guaranteed 3 year?
But he tied up all that money in THJr when he could have just given skinny Holiday like half it (at LEAST) for like...2 years.
It's like a combination of pro player scouting stupidity mixed with a lack of intuition of steps in a rebuild.
The Knicks were going nowhere. Sure, they had KP and "gonna be a star" but it was clear KP was years away, and even if THJr turned into a true #2 option (far from a given), the Knicks were still like 5 players away from being good (3 starters, 2 reserves)
At that juncture in the rebuild, signing THJr was just dumb. Sure, Mills thought "I'm solving 2 guard after PF" but, again, just bad player assessment\money management\rebuild sense.
I'm so glad that fool is gone.
Randel probably paid fairly. Let's say he's getting 5 million more per year than he deserves. I'd assume that's in part to take 2 year over 3 full, but again, I'm not sure who the Knicks felt they were "negotiating against" in this scenario. Considering their history in this kind of thing (Alan Houston, THJr), probably just themselves.
I'm torn on if Randle was as "why bother, team isn't ready for this step" as THJr. Again, length of his contract a big plus, and either Mills learned a bit of a lesson, Perry reigned him in, or Mills was staking his whole POBO position against Dolan on his ability to bring in "stars" and gave him the shorter deal on his own so he could promise Dolan that "in another 2 years we'll have space for 2 max cats, we can still fit in another Max cat right now! and Randle is a young guy on the rise who could be a star!"
I feel like Mills was able to BS Dolan a lot. It doesn't seem that difficult a thing to do.
