Trade Talk (Part Four)

[New era 2020]

I really think the Timberwolves need to think bigger. Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, and Pascal siakam would be some of the names I would look to add this team.

[New era 2020]

And how about Anthony Davis? Do you think he would even sit down and listen to a wolves offer? It'd be nice to see Davis here and John calipari as head coach. We have a lot of assets to offer for a big time trade.

[SaintS]

I don't know is it a correct topic for my question

But what's a trades with Minnesota which can become big deals wasn't complete ?
I heard about Johnny Flynn for PG and about Kevin Love - Kmart for Klay Thompson + fillers

Do you remember any big ot potantial big deals which which didn't happen

[winforlose]

Thinking about how the wolves would swing Booker. Best I got is This.

Wolves give Raptors Culver, Johnson, 2020 1st
Raptors sign and trade VanVleet to Suns
Suns send Booker to Wolves.

Raptors get Culver and a high draft pick when they would otherwise lose FV for nothing. Phoenix leans into the trio of FV, Oubre Jr, and emerging star Deandre Ayton. Wolves take a defensive liability with high offensive upside and complete the trio. Meanwhile the suns have Rubio’s contract that they can trade for a late first pick and they can draft a starting 4 to grow into the role.

For those who ask why the suns do this. Oubre Jr. is going to need money in a season and Ayton is becoming a high cost player. The current trio isn’t winning, but getting a potential all star PG to run the offense and shedding a defensive liability who is likely to want out are both upside moves.

[K4P]

Thinking about how the wolves would swing Booker. Best I got is This.

Wolves give Raptors Culver, Johnson, 2020 1st
Raptors sign and trade VanVleet to Suns
Suns send Booker to Wolves.

Raptors get Culver and a high draft pick when they would otherwise lose FV for nothing. Phoenix leans into the trio of FV, Oubre Jr, and emerging star Deandre Ayton. Wolves take a defensive liability with high offensive upside and complete the trio. Meanwhile the suns have Rubio’s contract that they can trade for a late first pick and they can draft a starting 4 to grow into the role.

For those who ask why the suns do this. Oubre Jr. is going to need money in a season and Ayton is becoming a high cost player. The current trio isn’t winning, but getting a potential all star PG to run the offense and shedding a defensive liability who is likely to want out are both upside moves.

Raptors stealing a crapton of value for a player they'll probably have to overpay to keep in Toronto

[New era 2020]

I would think that James Johnson, Malik Beasley, 2020 lottery pick and our 2020 first round pick from the nets.. That might be enough to entice Phoenix if Booker is asking for a trade behind the scenes. I seen Booker get interviewed right after D'Angelo Russell went to the Timberwolves and it look like he felt left out. Phoenix and Booker might be ready for a change, it has not worked well for both parties. Minnesota could even throw in Jarrett Culver and maybe take back the number 16 nets pick. If I was Minnesota I would get myself involved in trade rumors with other big name players and with Booker privately asking for a trade from Phoenix it might entice Phoenix 2 get the assets while they can from the Timberwolves. Just a thought and would like to hear others that have ideas that really move the needle for us.

[winforlose]

Thinking about how the wolves would swing Booker. Best I got is This.

Wolves give Raptors Culver, Johnson, 2020 1st
Raptors sign and trade VanVleet to Suns
Suns send Booker to Wolves.

Raptors get Culver and a high draft pick when they would otherwise lose FV for nothing. Phoenix leans into the trio of FV, Oubre Jr, and emerging star Deandre Ayton. Wolves take a defensive liability with high offensive upside and complete the trio. Meanwhile the suns have Rubio’s contract that they can trade for a late first pick and they can draft a starting 4 to grow into the role.

For those who ask why the suns do this. Oubre Jr. is going to need money in a season and Ayton is becoming a high cost player. The current trio isn’t winning, but getting a potential all star PG to run the offense and shedding a defensive liability who is likely to want out are both upside moves.

Raptors stealing a crapton of value for a player they'll probably have to overpay to keep in Toronto

Odds are Raptors are going to lose FV. I love the idea of moving Booker to the 3 and having Beasley play the 2. Our starting lineup is Dlo, Beasley, Booker, Hernangomez (or the Brooklyn pick,) and KAT. The defense will suck, but the offense will more than keep us in the game. If they double KAT, Dlo and Book will make them pay. If they stuff the paint we will rain 3s.

[Jedzz]

Thinking about how the wolves would swing Booker. Best I got is This.

Wolves give Raptors Culver, Johnson, 2020 1st
Raptors sign and trade VanVleet to Suns
Suns send Booker to Wolves.

Raptors get Culver and a high draft pick when they would otherwise lose FV for nothing. Phoenix leans into the trio of FV, Oubre Jr, and emerging star Deandre Ayton. Wolves take a defensive liability with high offensive upside and complete the trio. Meanwhile the suns have Rubio’s contract that they can trade for a late first pick and they can draft a starting 4 to grow into the role.

For those who ask why the suns do this. Oubre Jr. is going to need money in a season and Ayton is becoming a high cost player. The current trio isn’t winning, but getting a potential all star PG to run the offense and shedding a defensive liability who is likely to want out are both upside moves.

Raptors stealing a crapton of value for a player they'll probably have to overpay to keep in Toronto

I think VanVleet has proven his value. Though, in this trade maybe Raptors also need to send something back to Suns, or to Wolves that then allows another something to go back to Suns. Like you said, they should have to overpay to keep him. Depends, sounds like he likes playing there. If Suns want to much to move Booker, give up the assets for VanVleet to MN instead. Steady 106 def rating, .392 3pt%.

[winforlose]

Thinking about how the wolves would swing Booker. Best I got is This.

Wolves give Raptors Culver, Johnson, 2020 1st
Raptors sign and trade VanVleet to Suns
Suns send Booker to Wolves.

Raptors get Culver and a high draft pick when they would otherwise lose FV for nothing. Phoenix leans into the trio of FV, Oubre Jr, and emerging star Deandre Ayton. Wolves take a defensive liability with high offensive upside and complete the trio. Meanwhile the suns have Rubio’s contract that they can trade for a late first pick and they can draft a starting 4 to grow into the role.

For those who ask why the suns do this. Oubre Jr. is going to need money in a season and Ayton is becoming a high cost player. The current trio isn’t winning, but getting a potential all star PG to run the offense and shedding a defensive liability who is likely to want out are both upside moves.

Raptors stealing a crapton of value for a player they'll probably have to overpay to keep in Toronto

I think VanVleet has proven his value. Though, in this trade maybe Raptors also need to send something back to Suns, or to Wolves that then allows another something to go back to Suns. Like you said, they should have to overpay to keep him. Depends, sounds like he likes playing there. If Suns want to much to move Booker, give up the assets for VanVleet to MN instead. Steady 106 def rating, .392 3pt%.

There is a ton of speculation that FV is getting maxed this summer. He is too good in a summer where too many PGs are not. Also with a playoff pedigree and proven track record from deep FV is a legit pay the man contender. Add to this the other high value players the raptors will want to keep, and the only question is can they get anything for him in sign and trade or do they lose him outright. The suns meanwhile have Oubre Jr and Ayton both emerging as stars. Booker might be the 3rd star in that trio, yet the group isn’t getting results together thus far. Add to this equation the KAT and Dlo of it all and I think Book would rather be here then Phoenix. As for getting something back, maybe we get the raptors second or maybe the suns do. Either way, I think it is a win, win, win given the situation.

[Neeva]

Raptors stealing a crapton of value for a player they'll probably have to overpay to keep in Toronto

I think VanVleet has proven his value. Though, in this trade maybe Raptors also need to send something back to Suns, or to Wolves that then allows another something to go back to Suns. Like you said, they should have to overpay to keep him. Depends, sounds like he likes playing there. If Suns want to much to move Booker, give up the assets for VanVleet to MN instead. Steady 106 def rating, .392 3pt%.

There is a ton of speculation that FV is getting maxed this summer. He is too good in a summer where too many PGs are not. Also with a playoff pedigree and proven track record from deep FV is a legit pay the man contender. Add to this the other high value players the raptors will want to keep, and the only question is can they get anything for him in sign and trade or do they lose him outright. The suns meanwhile have Oubre Jr and Ayton both emerging as stars. Booker might be the 3rd star in that trio, yet the group isn’t getting results together thus far. Add to this equation the KAT and Dlo of it all and I think Book would rather be here then Phoenix. As for getting something back, maybe we get the raptors second or maybe the suns do. Either way, I think it is a win, win, win given the situation.

Wolves need to be patient with Booker. IMO it will
Happen, it is inevitable!(like DLo) The wolves just need to wait for Booker to demand a trade and his value to drop a bit. Also wait for Culver, Okogie, Beasley and whoever the wolves draft in 2020 for their value to get higher. Would also help if the wolves get a 2021 first round pick somehow just to have in their back pocket.

[Domejandro]

James Johnson, Jarrett Culver, and Minnesota’s top three pick is basically the outline of the deal. I highly doubt that Phoenix even considers trading him until next off-season.

[winforlose]

James Johnson, Jarrett Culver, and Minnesota’s top three pick is basically the outline of the deal. I highly doubt that Phoenix even considers trading him until next off-season.

I think it kinda depends on Booker. If he is cool staying in Phoenix, then he will stay there. If he wants to be here with KAT and Dlo, I think it could happen draft night this summer. Of course this season is the most bizarre in the history of the game, so who knows when the draft will be and how they handle the lottery. They could just declare the season over or they could resume. There are a lot of variables.

[Shaka_Zulu]

James Johnson, Jarrett Culver, and Minnesota’s top three pick is basically the outline of the deal. I highly doubt that Phoenix even considers trading him until next off-season.

Isnt it better to give them Beasley then Culver? They should rate him higher, and for our own need despite the downgrade in scoring talent, Culver with his nice D instincts, pass first and big wing size fits more with all offense backcourt. While beasley is like mini version of Booker, too small for SF role too.



We lose out talent wise in doing this, but I mean fit wise.

[Domejandro]

James Johnson, Jarrett Culver, and Minnesota’s top three pick is basically the outline of the deal. I highly doubt that Phoenix even considers trading him until next off-season.

Isnt it better to give them Beasley then Culver? They should rate him higher, and for our own need despite the downgrade in scoring talent, Culver with his nice D instincts, pass first and big wing size fits more with all offense backcourt. While beasley is like mini version of Booker, too small for SF role too.



We lose out talent wise in doing this, but I mean fit wise.

If they are trading Booker, they almost certainly would prefer the younger, cost controlled player.

[Klomp]

I think they might need both, at minimum. And that might not even be enough.

[Neeva]

I think they might need both, at minimum. And that might not even be enough.

Not this off season but might be more than enough next off season.I am pretty confident both Beas and Culver will raise their value.

[winforlose]

I think they might need both, at minimum. And that might not even be enough.

Not this off season but might be more than enough next off season.I am pretty confident both Beas and Culver will raise their value.

Beas value is sky high right now. His defense wasn’t god awful, and the bad parts can be excused by playing a new system with so many new guys. His shooting was lights out and his consistency from behind the arc cannot be ignored. That said, how much we pay him will go a long way in determining his future trade worth. The less we give the more he has. That said, Dlo, Beasley, and Booker as your 1-3 is killer. Add KAT to the mix (a true scoring threat from anywhere,) and it doesn’t matter who your PF is, you are going to dominate on offense.

[Domejandro]

Honestly, my top target would be Ben Simmons, Minnesota should throw the farm to get him if Philadelphia flames out in the first round.

[New era 2020]

I think you are absolutely correct. I definitely think Ben Simmons would have more impact than Devin Booker.

[Shaka_Zulu]

Honestly, my top target would be Ben Simmons, Minnesota should throw the farm to get him if Philadelphia flames out in the first round.

As SF or PF?


But like it either way, I like it alot. But I think he is too Hollywood to accept a trade to Minnesota.