2020 NBA Draft II

getrichordie · Post #921 » by **getrichordie** » Mon May 25, 2020 11:29 pm

Spoiler:

On the other hand, Lewis makes some incredible plays in transition. Killer windmill crossover to elude defenders in transition @0:51.

He's just so slithery. Going to being collapsing defenses in NBA very soon. Yeah, think I'll keep Lewis Jr. comfortably over Maledon.

getrichordie · Post #922 » by **getrichordie** » Tue May 26, 2020 3:01 am

Impressive numbers.

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BoyzNTheHood · Post #923 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Tue May 26, 2020 3:09 am

getrichordie wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Where does everyone have Tillman on their big board? I have him being an early 2nd rounder due to floor spacing potential and as a solid defensive player at the next level. Almost same measurements as Okongwu, just an inch shorter and he doesn't have as much pop as Okongwu, but he's the better passer.

I have Tillman in the 20's, but he's worth a lottery pick in my opinion even though he probably won't be taken there.

Can you please explain what consensus lottery picks you have him better than?

What's your go-to mock site? I'll give you a list based on theirs.

getrichordie · Post #924 » by **getrichordie** » Tue May 26, 2020 3:11 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
I have Tillman in the 20's, but he's worth a lottery pick in my opinion even though he probably won't be taken there.

Can you please explain what consensus lottery picks you have him better than?

What's your go-to mock site? I'll give you a list based on theirs.

I read many. I don't really utilize mock sites to base my opinions on, but for the sake of discussion, let's say tankathon.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #925 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Tue May 26, 2020 3:42 am

getrichordie wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Can you please explain what consensus lottery picks you have him better than?

What's your go-to mock site? I'll give you a list based on theirs.

I read many. I don't really utilize mock sites to base my opinions on, but for the sake of discussion, let's say tankathon.

The guys I'd rank over Tillman are Wiseman (1), Edwards (2), Ball (3), Avdija (4), Toppin (5), Hayes (6), Haliburton (7), Okongwu (8), Okoro (9), Green (10), Lewis (11), T. Bey (12), and Stewart (13) and I'm not even sure all of them will help their team win more than Tillman will help his.

Keep in mind, this is my opinion which is not a fact by any means. I'm willing to admit I've been wrong on guys in the past, but I see Tillman as more of a sure thing than most. I understand that guys who I've left off my list will put up better basic statistics than Tillman, but I don't think they'll impact the game like he does.

getrichordie · Post #926 » by **getrichordie** » Tue May 26, 2020 8:31 am

I'm dumb.

Mirotic12 · Post #927 » by **Mirotic12** » Tue May 26, 2020 3:38 pm

Nikos Rogkavopoulos 6-8 200 SG/SF

Under-18 European Championship vs. Italy

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Under-19 World Cup vs. Russia

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Clip is from Greek 1st Division and BCL (2nd-tier European league)

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Mirotic12 · Post #928 » by **Mirotic12** » Tue May 26, 2020 3:39 pm

Georgios Kalaitzakis 6-7 (maybe 6-8 by NBA methods) 192 PG/SG/SF

Clip is from Lithuanian 1st Division, playing against Zalgiris Kaunas of the EuroLeague (European top-tier)

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Clip is from Lithuanian 1st Division, playing against Rytas Vilnius of the EuroCup (European 2nd-tier)

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Against a Lithuanian League club

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Against a Lithuanian League club

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goober · Post #929 » by **goober** » Wed May 27, 2020 2:08 am

im surprised brendan bailey officially declared, i doubt he gets drafted. I’v watched him since high school

getrichordie · Post #930 » by **getrichordie** » Wed May 27, 2020 8:02 am

I’m hearing that Josh Green is pulling out of the draft.

getrichordie · Post #931 » by **getrichordie** » Wed May 27, 2020 8:13 am

Never mind. It’s Darin Green.

getrichordie · Post #932 » by **getrichordie** » Wed May 27, 2020 10:22 pm

Chad Ford just released his big board website. Free for a while.

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clyde21 · Post #933 » by **clyde21** » Thu May 28, 2020 1:20 am

who does Cleveland take if they get the #1 pick?

getrichordie · Post #934 » by **getrichordie** » Thu May 28, 2020 7:48 am

Don't know if I already posted this, but watch Hayes leave his defender in the dust with this nasty between-the-legs crossover @3:24

https://youtu.be/j9OuwBWdhxk?t=205

getrichordie · Post #935 » by **getrichordie** » Thu May 28, 2020 7:51 am

Great scouting video on Abdoulaye N'Doye at link below. You're welcome.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pw1PD8usW31cXBV4AzZUfHQP5UTS7ig0/view

Thugleavy34 · Post #936 » by **Thugleavy34** » Thu May 28, 2020 11:21 am

getrichordie wrote:Don't know if I already posted this, but watch Hayes leave his defender in the dust with this nasty between-the-legs crossover @3:24

https://youtu.be/j9OuwBWdhxk?t=205

Got about 7 minutes through that video. Holy hell does Hayes’ defense look atrocious. Begins with one of the most awkward closeouts I’ve ever seen, possession after possession of arms dangling down with every movement, gets blown by twice in the open court with poor footwork. Off ball it looks like he has been coached well but on ball he’s mess, slow footed and has terrible technique

Stillwater · Post #937 » by **Stillwater** » Thu May 28, 2020 5:37 pm

clyde21 wrote:who does Cleveland take if they get the #1 pick?

Good question, my guess is the are high enough on KPJ settling in at the 3 for the most part to pass on Edwards and Okoro in favor of Okongwu or maybe Wiseman esp after seeing how much having Dre in the middle helped the guard play. Or they could plan on trying to retain Dre and go an entirely different direction like drafting another guard 3 yrs in a row which might not be that bad of a play given Garland sucked hard all season and Sexton is better off on ball than off etc.

pad300 · Post #938 » by **pad300** » Thu May 28, 2020 6:19 pm

getrichordie wrote:Great scouting video on Abdoulaye N'Doye at link below. You're welcome.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pw1PD8usW31cXBV4AzZUfHQP5UTS7ig0/view

Yeah, that's a pretty good video. Does the person who produced it have more videos available? N'doye's not a big name prospect, so I wonder what other prospects are in the producers catalog...

getrichordie · Post #939 » by **getrichordie** » Thu May 28, 2020 6:58 pm

pad300 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Great scouting video on Abdoulaye N'Doye at link below. You're welcome.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pw1PD8usW31cXBV4AzZUfHQP5UTS7ig0/view

Yeah, that's a pretty good video. Does the person who produced it have more videos available? N'doye's not a big name prospect, so I wonder what other prospects are in the producers catalog...

I don't know. I'll have to look around.

clyde21 · Post #940 » by **clyde21** » Thu May 28, 2020 6:59 pm

honestly, if I'm the Cavs and picking #1, I'd take Onyeka and call it a day, but I would try my hardest to trade down even for a mediocre deal. there are no good options for them #1 overall