Packers 2020 Offseason Thread - Packers Talking Extension with Aaron Jones

[Daver]

Rodgers average time to throw last year was 2.88 seconds. Cousins was the slowest, 3.01 seconds. Dalton was the fastest, 2.51 seconds. Mahomes was at 2.82 seconds.

So that .05 difference between mahomes n rodgers makes that much difference between 50 plus sacks n 30 or so for mahomes.I rodgers makes that line look so much better than it is because of his scrambling ability if he had cement shoes on like brady or brees he would get killed

According to PFRef, our OL was accountable for 36 sacks last season

Is that alot i mean hell thats more sacks by the oline than brees was sacked 21all year n brady n mahomes 36 seems like alot for a oline am i wrong on that

[RRyder823]

So that .05 difference between mahomes n rodgers makes that much difference between 50 plus sacks n 30 or so for mahomes.I rodgers makes that line look so much better than it is because of his scrambling ability if he had cement shoes on like brady or brees he would get killed

According to PFRef, our OL was accountable for 36 sacks last season

Is that alot i mean hell thats more sacks by the oline than brees was sacked 21all year n brady n mahomes 36 seems like alot for a oline am i wrong on that

36 isn't alot.

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[Reddeye]

Ok board i love the packers but call me football stupid now.Can someone explain to me how the packers with rodgers getting sacked 40 plus times every year be rated the 4th best oline in the NFL in pass protection.
Huh absolutely do not understand if rodgers had bradys or brees mobility he would get killed behind that line.His scrambling ability alone avoids him another 10 plus sacks every season.
Brady passes the ball 50xs against the best sack team in the NFL(kc) and hardly gets touched NEs line isnt top 6 yet Rodgers passes the ball 40xs n gets sacked a average of like 4 a game and his line is 4th.Me no understand

Maybe because Rodgers holds the ball too long.

You really believe that the 50 or do sacks he gets every year the majority are his fault dude you believe that how many times have you seen rodgers not even get back to pass and hes already swarmed on

I don't think Rodgers gets "swarmed under" that often.

[stillgotgame]

Maybe because Rodgers holds the ball too long.

You really believe that the 50 or do sacks he gets every year the majority are his fault dude you believe that how many times have you seen rodgers not even get back to pass and hes already swarmed on

I don't think Rodgers gets "swarmed under" that often.

Just when we played on the West Coast. The rest of the season he had plenty of time.

[humanrefutation]

FPI is projecting the following for the Packers this coming season:

15. Green Bay Packers
Projected wins: 8.1
Chance to reach playoffs: 43%

That's with the added playoff team per conference too.

[Treebeard]

FPI is projecting the following for the Packers this coming season:

15. Green Bay Packers
Projected wins: 8.1
Chance to reach playoffs: 43%

That's with the added playoff team per conference too.

The index appears(to me) to score the win number a bit light. KC and the Ravens at the top of the heap have 11+ wins each. Other than that point, the rankings seem mostly sensible. Still, I'm sceptical the Vikes win more than the Packers.

[Ron Swanson]

They're always conservative with those projections. I guess all the analytics models are back on the Vikings bandwagon again. We see how well that did for Chicago last season.

[neiLz]

Yeah Vikes just don't scare me THIS year. They added some talent via draft, but they lost some solid defenders and a really good WR. They need quite a few of those draft picks to produce this year in order for them to over take the packers.

[Mags FTW]

Vikings lost Joseph, Griffen, will be trotting out inexperienced corners, and Harrison Smith is now on the wrong side of 30.

Zimmer is good at coaching up guys, but they will drop off a bit this year.

[RRyder823]

Vikings lost Joseph, Griffen, will be trotting out inexperienced corners, and Harrison Smith is now on the wrong sign of 30.

Zimmer is good at coaching up guys, but they will drop off a bit this year.

I defy someone to make a logical argument for the Vikings not being worse then they were last season

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[jimmybones]

So that .05 difference between mahomes n rodgers makes that much difference between 50 plus sacks n 30 or so for mahomes.I rodgers makes that line look so much better than it is because of his scrambling ability if he had cement shoes on like brady or brees he would get killed

According to PFRef, our OL was accountable for 36 sacks last season

Is that alot i mean hell thats more sacks by the oline than brees was sacked 21all year n brady n mahomes 36 seems like alot for a oline am i wrong on that

Do you post from a microwave or potato? Curious what device you use that is void of all punctuation buttons. People using Nokia phones that have that awesome snake game use more commas and periods than you. Not trying to go all grammar police but it's hard to read your posts bro (I'm aware that this post doesn't have perfect punctuation but it is an example of using internet shorthand).

[RRyder823]

According to PFRef, our OL was accountable for 36 sacks last season

Is that alot i mean hell thats more sacks by the oline than brees was sacked 21all year n brady n mahomes 36 seems like alot for a oline am i wrong on that

Do you post from a microwave or potato? Curious what device you use that is void of all punctuation buttons. People using Nokia phones that have that awesome snake game use more commas and periods than you. Not trying to go all grammar police but it's hard to read your posts bro (I'm aware that this post doesn't have perfect punctuation but it is an example of using internet shorthand).

Don't be dissing my old Eisenstein phone. I'm miss playing snake on that bad boy

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[M-C-G]

Is that alot i mean hell thats more sacks by the oline than brees was sacked 21all year n brady n mahomes 36 seems like alot for a oline am i wrong on that

Do you post from a microwave or potato? Curious what device you use that is void of all punctuation buttons. People using Nokia phones that have that awesome snake game use more commas and periods than you. Not trying to go all grammar police but it's hard to read your posts bro (I'm aware that this post doesn't have perfect punctuation but it is an example of using internet shorthand).

Don't be dissing my old Eisenstein phone. I'm miss playing snake on that bad boy

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Daver's phone. You try posting from that thing!

[stillgotgame]

Vikings lost Joseph, Griffen, will be trotting out inexperienced corners, and Harrison Smith is now on the wrong sign of 30.

Zimmer is good at coaching up guys, but they will drop off a bit this year.

I defy someone to make a logical argument for the Vikings not being worse then they were last season

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They are undoubtedly weaker. Cousins has bilked them for more guaranteed money, I expect him to fall off as well.

[awd4cy]

FPI is projecting the following for the Packers this coming season:

15. Green Bay Packers
Projected wins: 8.1
Chance to reach playoffs: 43%

That's with the added playoff team per conference too.

Sounds about right.

[th87]

Vikings lost Joseph, Griffen, will be trotting out inexperienced corners, and Harrison Smith is now on the wrong sign of 30.

Zimmer is good at coaching up guys, but they will drop off a bit this year.

I defy someone to make a logical argument for the Vikings not being worse then they were last season

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The NFL. It's random. Some unexpected internal growth or a draft pick outperforms.

I guess you asked for logic though. Logically they shouldn't be better.

[Ron Swanson]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/27/packers-have-talked-to-aaron-jones-about-an-extension/

According to Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com, the agent for the Packers running back said he’s talked to the team about an extension for Jones, who is entering the final year of his rookie deal.

“Whether it’s my first year or my last year on a deal, I’m going to be just as motivated,” Jones said during a videoconference. “It doesn’t change just because a contract is on the line for me. I mean, I’m going to continue to work and do everything in my power. I trust my agency and the Packers. With that, I would love to be a lifelong Packer. That’s my take on that.”

Jones tied for the league lead with 19 touchdowns last year, but the Packers used their second-round pick on Boston College running back A.J. Dillon. (And after watching them use their first one on quarterback Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers nodded a knowing nod.)

Last year was Jones’ first 1,000-yard season, and he finished with 1,558 yards from scrimmage. The Packers have made it clear they want to run the ball effectively and regularly, so there’s probably enough work for both Jones and Dillon this year.

[MickeyDavis]

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[humanrefutation]

I think Jones might be one of those few RBs for whom a reasonably-priced extension makes sense - he doesn't have a lot of mileage on him yet.

[M-C-G]

I think Jones might be one of those few RBs for whom a reasonably-priced extension makes sense - he doesn't have a lot of mileage on him yet.

My problem with extending him, let's say you do, he gets injured, you have no overpaid for him. And I know that anyone can get injured, but I feel like he has only been healthy last season since early in college.

Or, you can wait the year out, see what you have and put a transition tag on him next year and pay him 8.5M for the season or trade him. He'd be about 28 going into the year after the transition tag and still be in line for a pay day, win win.

I just think with his injury history, I'm not that interested in being locked in long term, so I'd rather see what our year to year options are. Unless we can totally be out of the deal after two years.


Todd Gurley - cut one year after extension
David Johnson - traded one year or so after extension
LeVeon Bell - shopped within 12 months of his FA deal
Melvin Gordon - no extension
Leonard Fornette - 5th year option declined

The landscape just changes so fast for RB, I don't see the upside of locking in this particular position. I'd say you are better off using draft capital every other year to find 'your next guy'