Indiana Pacers Draft Pick Watch Thread

[hillchaser]

I think Stewart will be a role player as a floor ... I don't see much risk spending pick 19.

That is his ceiling, IMO. No vertical pop, horrible movement skills, bad decision maker. Poor man's Enes Kanter.

If you want an undersized center without vertical pop, Xavier Tillman is a far better option because he is brilliant in other areas.

I like Tillman too. I think he's in that same category for me. Better passer and quick feet but I worry if he will be undersized for how he will play in the NBA.

[Ruzious]

I like Maxey and Achiuwa which are mocked below our pick. Else I would be up for whoever is available from Stewart and Carey in that order.

Also I haven't posted for a long time but it just makes me crazy that we drafted DJ over John Collins a few years ago. Collins was productive in college and was a no brainer for a power forward/Centre over DJ.

I would not spend a 1st on Precious, Stewart or Carey.

I wouldn't on Precious or Stewart, but I would on Carey. He's got some of the negative issues that Okafor did, but he's been even more productive, and while he's not a good defender, he really is not the complete mess on D that Okafor was. Duke had some really bad defenders this season, and I think Carey got more blame there than he should have.

[tski1972]

Anyone willing to do these trades?

19 for 22, 36 (Philly)
19 for 26, 30 (Boston)

[German Athens]

Anyone willing to do these trades?

19 for 22, 36 (Philly)
19 for 26, 30 (Boston)

I would love the Boston trade. I think there’s a very real chance that a few really nice players could be available at each pick. I would love bolmaro and reed. Which I think is quite possible as of now. Terry, Dotson, josh green could also be available at those picks which I would find useful for us. I think I’m at the point where if Kira Lewis is gone at our pick, I would look to trade back a little

[Ruzious]

Also, if you're looking for a Pat Connaughton clone, Desmond Bane is your guy:

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Interesting comp. I see more of a 'high IQ, better shooting Sterling' when I watch Bane. Elite team defender, low usage deadly shooter, very strong, very smart. He and Pat coming into the game together with the 2nd unit would be fun. I've been on the Banewagon for awhile now, Top-25 prospect for me.

The thing that probably hurts Bane's rating the most is wingspan. He's listed at 6'6 with a 6'4.5 wingspan. But his standing reach is just about average for a 2, so that shouldn't hurt his ability to get off his shot, and because his 3 point shot is so good, I agree with those who think he can be very effective off the bench. It also doesn't hurt that he's stronger than most guards. He's no Brogdon, but yeah - he could be as effective as Connaughton or even a bit better, imo.

[Ruzious]

Anyone willing to do these trades?

19 for 22, 36 (Philly)
19 for 26, 30 (Boston)

I would love the Boston trade. I think there’s a very real chance that a few really nice players could be available at each pick. I would love bolmaro and reed. Which I think is quite possible as of now. Terry, Dotson, josh green could also be available at those picks which I would find useful for us. I think I’m at the point where if Kira Lewis is gone at our pick, I would look to trade back a little

This is a tough question, and it really does depend on who's there, but I would say no to the Boston trade and maybe to Philly at this point. There's going to be someone good at 22, but at 26... that's a leap. I think we'd be taking too much of a chance doing that.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Weird draft at the top. Not bucks specific but curious who you guys think should go 1. I'm not a big Wiseman fan. Edwards seems alright but not number 1 pick good. I like Haliburton and Hayes but again not really number 1 overall pick types. LaMelo seems like the YOLO pick where he could be unique and good but could also be out of the league by his second contract.

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[JayMKE]

Don't think there is any clear cut #1, this draft seems very weak at the top.

[Daver]

New cbs sportline mock draft out they have the bucks taking Jahmi'us Ramsey. Read about him duse can really shoot the 3

[BucksFanSD]

New cbs sportline mock draft out they have the bucks taking Jahmi'us Ramsey. Read about him duse can really shoot the 3

I could see the Bucks picking him and I'd be a fan of it. He passes the 3 ball test, and he would be great at catch and shoot in our system.

Three point shooter and athleticism are our biggest needs and he has both.

[Daver]

New cbs sportline mock draft out they have the bucks taking Jahmi'us Ramsey. Read about him duse can really shoot the 3

I could see the Bucks picking him and I'd be a fan of it. He passes the 3 ball test, and he would be great at catch and shoot in our system.

Three point shooter and athleticism are our biggest needs and he has both.

Dude shot 43% from 3 thats amazing read he was 91% in college basketball in shooting the ball in half court O we need someone like that

[RiotPunch]

I have been all over the place on Jahmi'us, but I am starting to think he is fool's gold. The more I watch, the more I see an ATROCIOUS defender, especially off-ball. On offense, he is a super pure C&S guy, beautiful looking shot. That said, he's not that good at anything else.

Not a guy I get Bud vibes from. I think he has the most misleading stock numbers in this class.

[M-C-G]

I have been all over the place on Jahmi'us, but I am starting to think he is fool's gold. The more I watch, the more I see an ATROCIOUS defender, especially off-ball. On offense, he is a super pure C&S guy, beautiful looking shot. That said, he's not that good at anything else.

Not a guy I get Bud vibes from. I think he has the most misleading stock numbers in this class.

Being able to play defense is a must, otherwise I don't see this pick having any chance of cracking the rotation. As much as I want high upside, we are in our window NOW. Give me the player that adds the most wins over the next 3-5 years

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah, I've kinda fallen off the Ramsey bandwagon the more I look at the other wings. 64% from the line is kind of a red flag, and he'll be a bit of a one-trick pony on offense. If he hits he'll be one hell of a 3&D wing, but I don't think his upside is really that enamoring. If all you want is a 3&D wing type, there are better, and safer, prospects in that range.

[RiotPunch]

At least being a good team defender is a must. A guy like Nesmith for example brings a lot of shooting gravity on offense while also not being a net negative on defense due to his off-ball defensive IQ, even if he is a weak POA defender.

I am still probably the biggest Grant Riller stan on the planet, and buy him becoming a neutral to plus defender while creating for himself and getting to the rim/line at will.

[RiotPunch]

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[BucksFanSD]

I don't see Ramsey as a 3&D guy. Instead I see him as a combo guard, 6th man, looking to score in knocking down shots and driving to the rim. Athleticism and outside shooting is there with Ramsey. When you're picking 20th overall there will either be weaknesses to the strengths or just limitations overall. One thing we do have to counter are very good rim protectors.

[RiotPunch]

53rd and 56th percentile for close 2's and dunks for Ramsey. 23rd percentile FTR. His athleticism doesn't help him as an advantage creator, as he has a pretty slow first step, though he will occasionally wow you if he somehow gets by his man.

He'll need to really polish his pull-up game to be a 6th man microwave type, because he really struggled creating for himself. His 3P% is buoyed by his C&S marksmanship, not much shot versatility.

I'd rather move back for a guy like Isaiah Joe, who has a far more versatile shot profile and his defensive woes being mostly frame related rather than feel/effort related with Ramsey.

[BucksFanSD]

With Ramsey he is 91st percentile in catch and shoot and 43% on high volume threes, which for a freshman in the Big 12 is legit. I think those figures work well for a team like the Bucks where opponents will have to be honest on defense. There are other players I like more but I could understand it if the Bucks picked Ramsey.

[RiotPunch]

Not disputing his C&S prowess, that his his only legit skill.