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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#141 » by robillionaire » Wed May 27, 2020 4:49 am

i like jalen but i think brandon boston is going to be my pick for 2021 we'll see though
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#142 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed May 27, 2020 5:09 am

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:IDK how you can watch an Anthony Edwards game, outside of the raw scoring numbers, and be like "yep that's what I want to invest a top 3 pick in"

Everybody dances around it because of the physical tools and flashes but the kid is dumb as rocks on the court. The amount of times you watch him and you can tell he just has no idea what he's doing or where to be is so troubling and won't fly in the NBA. Currently, whether we want to admit it or not, the Knicks don't have the infrastructure to nurture that specific kind of talent. ANd it shows up everywhere in the stat sheet. His FG% should be way higher than it is given his proficiency inside the arc and his TO's are way higher than they ever should be. Just consider me not a fan.

I'm honestly way more confident that Halliburton will be a way better player simply off of pure IQ.


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I'm going to give the kid the benefit of the doubt because JR was a true knucklehead both on and off the court. I'm sure Ant is a good kid. But yeah game wise and how frustrating he is to watch is very reminiscent of young JR who constantly settled for terrible shots and consistently got lost defensively.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#143 » by HighRyzer83 » Wed May 27, 2020 6:25 am

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TheGreenArrow wrote:Yeah Guys Cade Cunningham ain’t it folks.

I haven’t watched much of the 2021 prospects but if Jalen Green can get a consistent jumper :o

Yeah I'm sold on green as well. Everyone seems to prefer Paul Reed but I think j green has the highest ceiling
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#144 » by robillionaire » Wed May 27, 2020 6:38 am

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TheGreenArrow wrote:Yeah Guys Cade Cunningham ain’t it folks.

I haven’t watched much of the 2021 prospects but if Jalen Green can get a consistent jumper :o

Yeah I'm sold on green as well. Everyone seems to prefer Paul Reed but I think j green has the highest ceiling


there's a josh green and a jalen smith in this draft but we are talking about the jalen green who is currently the #2 prospect in next years draft
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#145 » by blanko » Wed May 27, 2020 9:04 am

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Can’t wait to see him light up the garden.
He aint half the athelete penny was.

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#146 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed May 27, 2020 1:54 pm

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Naughtyfatboy wrote:Reading back towards the ends of the last thread I’m Surprised y’all don’t like obi, who the heck do y’all feel comfortable taking?

So many divided opinions usually their is a guy in the draft the majority agree on lol but not this one

As much as I like Randle, this guy fits better with RJ and Mitch. Just make Randle the 6th man or something. But man his athletcism is just.. :o :o He would have MSG going crazy. If he falls to the Knicks I would def take him.


Why not just sign Christian Wood to be Randle’s replacement and draft for a different position?

Let’s just trade Randle and get what we can for him now?


Screw spending big money or lottery pick on PFs that arent playmakers or anything special. We need to load up on wings and G's
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#147 » by god shammgod » Wed May 27, 2020 1:55 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:As much as I like Randle, this guy fits better with RJ and Mitch. Just make Randle the 6th man or something. But man his athletcism is just.. :o :o He would have MSG going crazy. If he falls to the Knicks I would def take him.


Why not just sign Christian Wood to be Randle’s replacement and draft for a different position?

Let’s just trade Randle and get what we can for him now?


Screw spending big money or lottery pick on PFs that arent playmakers or anything special. We need to load up on wings and G's


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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#148 » by robillionaire » Wed May 27, 2020 2:30 pm

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Can’t wait to see him light up the garden.
He aint half the athelete penny was.

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maybe but I do see a lot of similarities in their size and play style. I was trying to find highlights of penny at age 18. he didn't enter the nba until 22. so his two years at memphis st. were 20 and 21. So I had to go back to high school highlights from 1990 to see what he may have looked like around lamelo's age. weirdly enough 16 seconds in there's mike breen calling his high school game

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#149 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 27, 2020 2:31 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:As much as I like Randle, this guy fits better with RJ and Mitch. Just make Randle the 6th man or something. But man his athletcism is just.. :o :o He would have MSG going crazy. If he falls to the Knicks I would def take him.


Why not just sign Christian Wood to be Randle’s replacement and draft for a different position?

Let’s just trade Randle and get what we can for him now?


Screw spending big money or lottery pick on PFs that arent playmakers or anything special. We need to load up on wings and G's


Christian Wood can’t make plays? The videos seem to indicate otherwise. What am I missing here? We can draft our guards/wings. Take Haliburton with the first pick and a wing with the second FRP.



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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#150 » by knickstape21 » Wed May 27, 2020 3:12 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:As much as I like Randle, this guy fits better with RJ and Mitch. Just make Randle the 6th man or something. But man his athletcism is just.. :o :o He would have MSG going crazy. If he falls to the Knicks I would def take him.


Why not just sign Christian Wood to be Randle’s replacement and draft for a different position?

Let’s just trade Randle and get what we can for him now?


Screw spending big money or lottery pick on PFs that arent playmakers or anything special. We need to load up on wings and G's


Preach! We can never just adapt and play 4 around 1 (Robinson). Doesn’t matter who the “4” is. Get playmakers around the arc and spread that ish out. We’re the last team to do so already and we wanna sign Wood and/or draft Toppin?! Hell no.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#151 » by robillionaire » Wed May 27, 2020 3:16 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Why not just sign Christian Wood to be Randle’s replacement and draft for a different position?

Let’s just trade Randle and get what we can for him now?


Screw spending big money or lottery pick on PFs that arent playmakers or anything special. We need to load up on wings and G's


Preach! We can never just adapt and play 4 around 1 (Robinson). Doesn’t matter who the “4” is. Get playmakers around the arc and spread that ish out. We’re the last team to do so already and we wanna sign Wood and/or draft Toppin?! Hell no.


wood shot 38.6% from 3 though. if it's not a fluke that's really good and could still spread the floor. we need a stretch 4
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#152 » by knickstape21 » Wed May 27, 2020 3:18 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Screw spending big money or lottery pick on PFs that arent playmakers or anything special. We need to load up on wings and G's


Preach! We can never just adapt and play 4 around 1 (Robinson). Doesn’t matter who the “4” is. Get playmakers around the arc and spread that ish out. We’re the last team to do so already and we wanna sign Wood and/or draft Toppin?! Hell no.


wood shot 38.6% from 3 though. if it's not a fluke that's really good and could still spread the floor. we need a stretch 4


Would be so disastrous, dude. An absolute waste of time. Let Sacramento sign him.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#153 » by robillionaire » Wed May 27, 2020 3:20 pm

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robillionaire wrote:
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Preach! We can never just adapt and play 4 around 1 (Robinson). Doesn’t matter who the “4” is. Get playmakers around the arc and spread that ish out. We’re the last team to do so already and we wanna sign Wood and/or draft Toppin?! Hell no.


wood shot 38.6% from 3 though. if it's not a fluke that's really good and could still spread the floor. we need a stretch 4


Would be so disastrous, dude. An absolute waste of time. Let Sacramento sign him.


i respect your opinion but why do you think that, what are you basing it on
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#154 » by 8516knicks » Wed May 27, 2020 3:27 pm

Wood looks great in the video. I even remember people touting him as a big sleeper back 5 years ago. My question is why he never has averaged more than 23 min/game even last 2 years when he's blossomed? It doesn't appear to be fouls (like Mitch).
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Post#155 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed May 27, 2020 3:31 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Why not just sign Christian Wood to be Randle’s replacement and draft for a different position?

Let’s just trade Randle and get what we can for him now?


Screw spending big money or lottery pick on PFs that arent playmakers or anything special. We need to load up on wings and G's


Christian Wood can’t make plays? The videos seem to indicate otherwise. What am I missing here?



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He can score, but only avg 1 assist to 1.4 TOs. I meant more so that he is not really a playmaker for others or someone that can create offense. Hard to find that from a PF. But its why I would focus more on Gs/wings or invest in players that could potentially do that or save money for a star.

Overall, Wood is solid and better fit then Randle. I do like him as a player, but I dont think the Knicks should invest a lot/long term into that type of player right now. Plus we are probably stuck with Randle anyway. We can play more small ball lineups in general...Play Knox, RJ, Iggy, some minutes at the 3/4 and spread the floor more. There are a bunch of potential stretch 4/PF types maybe available later in the draft or other free agents that we can get for cheaper, 1 year deals if needed.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#156 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed May 27, 2020 3:36 pm

knickstape21 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Why not just sign Christian Wood to be Randle’s replacement and draft for a different position?

Let’s just trade Randle and get what we can for him now?


Screw spending big money or lottery pick on PFs that arent playmakers or anything special. We need to load up on wings and G's


Preach! We can never just adapt and play 4 around 1 (Robinson). Doesn’t matter who the “4” is. Get playmakers around the arc and spread that ish out. We’re the last team to do so already and we wanna sign Wood and/or draft Toppin?! Hell no.


I def want to see more lineups like that. Get more spacing, versatility and speed and should help us on both ends, and be better to watch.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#157 » by god shammgod » Wed May 27, 2020 3:37 pm

i wonder if wood is really better suited as a 5 anyway. he seemed to thrive there more on offense late in the season in detroit where he can out-quick most centers. but defensively he'd be kind of mediocre at the 5 so maybe not.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#158 » by robillionaire » Wed May 27, 2020 3:46 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Why not just sign Christian Wood to be Randle’s replacement and draft for a different position?

Let’s just trade Randle and get what we can for him now?


Screw spending big money or lottery pick on PFs that arent playmakers or anything special. We need to load up on wings and G's


Christian Wood can’t make plays? The videos seem to indicate otherwise. What am I missing here? We can draft our guards/wings. Take Haliburton with the first pick and a wing with the second FRP.



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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#159 » by thebuzzardman » Wed May 27, 2020 3:50 pm

The thing C Wood (heh) is that he'd be a really good signing at one price (a lowish one) and maybe not at a higher one.

At the higher price, with the cap implications and the players NOT signed with that money that year and forward, a team would have to be confident he'd continue to play at the high level he displayed for a only a portion of his career.

They'd have to know he broke out, for sure.

Still, obviously, wings are a higher priority
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) 

Post#160 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed May 27, 2020 4:05 pm

Strick wrote:
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Naughtyfatboy wrote:Reading back towards the ends of the last thread I’m Surprised y’all don’t like obi, who the heck do y’all feel comfortable taking?

So many divided opinions usually their is a guy in the draft the majority agree on lol but not this one

As much as I like Randle, this guy fits better with RJ and Mitch. Just make Randle the 6th man or something. But man his athletcism is just.. :o :o He would have MSG going crazy. If he falls to the Knicks I would def take him.

I haven’t watched much of him outside a game or two live and highlights, but he’s certainly entertaining. Has that Griffin/Stat type of hold your breath when he gets a full head of steam bc it’s more than likely going to be a highlight, type of excitement. I will say, I didn’t like what he did defensively (when I saw him) and idk if I ever saw him make a jumper when I watched him live. I also don’t know about his side to side quickness, but people on here I’m sure know him much more in depth than me, because like I said I haven’t seen enough to give a fair take. He is fun as hell to watch though especially if he gets some room or on the break.

Personally I want someone at the 4 who can be a legitimate shooter at least from the mid range. 3 pointer would be a plus (especially if we plan on keeping AND starting Mitch, which I think we should for both). Having someone who can space the floor a bit and open things up for a PG and lob opportunities for Mitch would be great. Plus we have been horrible at shooting since the Melo/JR/Novak/Pablo/Kidd/Copeland/etc days at least it seems lol

His defense isn’t really that great but imo I think it can improve with proper coaching. He can def stretch the floor, he has a nice 3 ball. I think he can be a solid fit next to Mitch. I know we need a PG but we also need someone who can be a star, which is more important to me. I think we should take the chance on him if he falls to us. I see him being a mismatch nightmare for opposing 4’s. Like a scoring machine type schit
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