Giannis wins next few championships. With which team?

[jc23]

after the KD backlash i cant see any top 5 player joining the warriors again. he stays but maybe signs a shorter deal. loyalty is cool until you wake up as a 30 year old with no rangz.

[jimmy keys]

Too cheap, or the guy just wasn't worth the money? AGAIN, you're projecting. Malcolm Brogdon goes elsewhere, his efficiency falls off a cliff, George Hill goes bonkers all season long, and Donte Divincenzo is a stud in the making, the Bucks don't skip a beat and you're STILL making this case with no ground to stand on.

That's historical revisionism. He was basically the 1st option on offence in Indiana, that's not the role he was asked to play in Milwaukee. They aren't better without him, but if it makes you feel better than by all means tell yourself whatever you want.

I mean if you want to discount pretty much every statistical measurement you "might" have an argument there........ That is until you actually watch the how the Bucks played this year and realize DDV makes a bigger impact for them then Brogdon did



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It's the regular season, it's meaningless. I want Brogdon with his defence in a 7 game series. Is DDV better defensively? Nah.

[jimmy keys]

I think IF he does leave it will be to Toronto.

This. Except when he leaves it will be for Toronto.

[Poohdini1]

Toronto. On top of Masai helping his family so much before he got to the league, he may also be the best GM. Giannis and Pascal would be an unreal combo.

[skones]

It's the regular season, it's meaningless. I want Brogdon with his defence in a 7 game series. Is DDV better defensively? Nah.

It's not as if his defense is the primary reason a number of analytical measures have him rated as one of the most impactful players in the league this season or anything.

It's comical how wrong you actually are. Yet another baseless argument.

[jimmy keys]

It's the regular season, it's meaningless. I want Brogdon with his defence in a 7 game series. Is DDV better defensively? Nah.

It's not as if his defensive is the primary reason a number of analytical measures have him rated as one of the most impactful players in the league this season or anything.

It's comical how wrong you actually are. Yet another baseless argument.

Relax I'm just having fun. Brogdon is obviously trash and Milwaukee is obviously far better this year. Probably the best team ever assembled.

[skones]

It's the regular season, it's meaningless. I want Brogdon with his defence in a 7 game series. Is DDV better defensively? Nah.

It's not as if his defensive is the primary reason a number of analytical measures have him rated as one of the most impactful players in the league this season or anything.

It's comical how wrong you actually are. Yet another baseless argument.

Relax I'm just having fun. Brogdon is obviously trash and Milwaukee is obviously far better this year. Probably the best team ever assembled.

I take satisfaction in the deflection of the point being as admittance that your arguments, collectively, have been weak and baseless.

[jimmy keys]

Toronto. On top of Masai helping his family so much before he got to the league, he may also be the best GM. Giannis and Pascal would be an unreal combo.

It's not even about that, it's about putting African basketball on the map. These guys want to be the first to build an international/African core and dominate the NBA. The agenda is much larger.

[jimmy keys]

It's not as if his defensive is the primary reason a number of analytical measures have him rated as one of the most impactful players in the league this season or anything.

It's comical how wrong you actually are. Yet another baseless argument.

Relax I'm just having fun. Brogdon is obviously trash and Milwaukee is obviously far better this year. Probably the best team ever assembled.

I take satisfaction in the deflection of the point being as admittance that your arguments, collectively, have been weak and baseless.

You haven't made a solid argument bud. Team loses near Allstar player and is better by subtraction?? That's you're argument right. Even if so they still could've traded Brogdon for someone who would help win now. They didn't, the end. Justify it all you want though.

[stoo]

I regret not putting Miami in the poll

[skones]

Relax I'm just having fun. Brogdon is obviously trash and Milwaukee is obviously far better this year. Probably the best team ever assembled.

I take satisfaction in the deflection of the point being as admittance that your arguments, collectively, have been weak and baseless.

You haven't made a solid argument bud. Team loses near Allstar player and is better by subtraction?? That's you're argument right. Even if so they still could've traded Brogdon for someone who would help win now. They didn't, the end. Justify it all you want though.

They're better this year than they were last year. It's plain as day, the numbers all support it. So refuting it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Donte Divincenzo is a better defender than Macolm Brogdon. It's plain as day, the numbers support it. So refuting it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

I've made cases. SRS, projected record. I can sit here and quote DRAPM, DPIPM, DRPM, DBPM. I can look at Brogdon's play this season, his declined percentages, the injury issues, and point to the validity of the very real concerns Milwaukee had in resigning him. How his contributions here in Milwaukee pretty plainly weren't worth 80 million ESPECIALLY when you consider how he was replaced. You're free to look up all of these things, because they're out there, and they're quantifiable.

Yet here you are, despite all of this evidence staring you straight in the eye, you're sitting there saying, "Well yeah man, but they aren't." That's NOT quantifiable. It's subjective, and pulled from thin air because that's what you want to be the case even though, and I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news here, it's not.

But K.

[Poohdini1]

Toronto. On top of Masai helping his family so much before he got to the league, he may also be the best GM. Giannis and Pascal would be an unreal combo.

It's not even about that, it's about putting African basketball on the map. These guys want to be the first to build an international/African core and dominate the NBA. The agenda is much larger.

Huge market for that too. Idk, Toronto has just always made sense to me for Giannis.

[jimmy keys]

I take satisfaction in the deflection of the point being as admittance that your arguments, collectively, have been weak and baseless.

You haven't made a solid argument bud. Team loses near Allstar player and is better by subtraction?? That's you're argument right. Even if so they still could've traded Brogdon for someone who would help win now. They didn't, the end. Justify it all you want though.

They're better this year than they were last year. It's plain as day, the numbers all support it. So refuting it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Donte Divincenzo is a better defender than Macolm Brogdon. It's plain as day, the numbers support it. So refuting it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

I've made cases. SRS, projected record. I can sit here and quote DRAPM, DPIPM, DRPM, DBPM. I can look at Brogdon's play this season, his declined percentages, the injury issues, and point to the validity of the very real concerns Milwaukee had in resigning him. How his contributions here in Milwaukee pretty plainly weren't worth 80 million ESPECIALLY when you consider how he was replaced. You're free to look up all of these things, because they're out there, and they're quantifiable.

Yet here you are, despite all of this evidence staring you straight in the eye, you're sitting there saying, "Well yeah man, but they aren't." That's NOT quantifiable. It's subjective, and pulled from thin air because that's what you want to be the case even though, and I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news here, it's not.

But K.

Honestly I respect your knowledge, but none of that **** matters. We already knew they were a great regular season team, arguing if they're marginally better this season seems like a waste of time. Ultimately they need to get over the hump come playoff time. Hopefully we'll be able to see if that happens or not.

[Warriorfan]

Give it a rest. You repeat the same drivel in every Giannis thread and it never makes any sense.[/quote


At the core Mil is older, small market and hasnt won why would he stay its pretty plain. I predict Mil will lose talent/depth next year

GS may not get Giannis but they are in a position to get a star again in free agency, Curry has proven he can play with another MVP. Klay is HOF level and can function as 3rd option

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this time in all caps.

GOLDEN STATE AT THE CORE IS OLDER THAN MILWAUKEE AND YOU'RE PROJECTING TWO YEARS INTO THE FUTURE ON TOP OF THAT.

Khris Middleton 28
Eric Bledsoe 30
Antetokounmpo has 25
Average age: 27.7

Curry 32 years old
Klay Thompson 30 years old
Draymond Green 30 years old
Average age 30.7

The reasons why he'd stay are pretty plain. Check the standings. While you're at it, look at your cap sheet, Golden State is the furthest thing away from being in a position to get a star in free agency. Golden State has the 4th most committed salary in the league for the 2022 offseason AND Curry will have a mammoth cap hold. This stuff is right there in front of your eyes, clear as day.

You are entitled to be be blind as a fan you sound like the guys who said KD would not leave

Warriors with Iguadalla DLo plus 2nd round pick buys dont need space to acquire talent

Im a fan but I believe the warriors young players like Pascal will continue to be rotation players

Plus this warrior regime has hit on their lottery picks

I dont think Mil is good enough to win and the market is what it is good luck,

Means more after a bad year for the NBA. MIL really doesnt have many ways to improve

https://www.forbes.com/teams/milwaukee-bucks/#580421ed690f

Vs

https://www.forbes.com/teams/golden-state-warriors/#737c732f0a74

[skones]

You are entitled to be be blind as a fan you sound like the guys who said KD would not leave

Warriors with Iguadalla DLo plus 2nd round pick buys dont need space to acquire talent

Im a fan but I believe the warriors young players like Pascal will continue to be rotation players

Plus this warrior regime has hit on their lottery picks

I dont think Mil is good enough to win and the market is what it is good luck,

Means more after a bad year for the NBA. MIL really doesnt have many ways to improve

https://www.forbes.com/teams/milwaukee-bucks/#580421ed690f

Vs

https://www.forbes.com/teams/golden-state-warriors/#737c732f0a74

It's almost as if team valuation doesn't have any bearing on the NBA salary cap.

It's obvious to everyone here that you don't know how things work.

[JShuttlesworth]

I would be surprised if he stays in Milwaukee...mainly because it's Milwaukee. If they win though, who knows. Maybe.

If he doesn't win a ring this year or next he's gone, I can't imagine he sticks around with an aging core. Giannis is 25 he's about to go into his prime. He'll be a free agent at 26. The Bucks have Lopez (32), Bledsoe (30), Hill (34), Middleton (28) as their core, they aren't getting any younger -- All of those players are past their prime with exception of Middleton, but his contract limits a lot of their flexibility moving forward.

This year is their best chance to do it -- They have the LA teams to deal with though, and with the proposed bracket floating around they'll have to go through both of them.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

He's probably going to stay in Milwaukee, but if he does choose to leave, he is going to Toronto. I'm 99.9999% sure of this.

[Warriorfan]

You are entitled to be be blind as a fan you sound like the guys who said KD would not leave

Warriors with Iguadalla DLo plus 2nd round pick buys dont need space to acquire talent

Im a fan but I believe the warriors young players like Pascal will continue to be rotation players

Plus this warrior regime has hit on their lottery picks

I dont think Mil is good enough to win and the market is what it is good luck,

Means more after a bad year for the NBA. MIL really doesnt have many ways to improve

https://www.forbes.com/teams/milwaukee-bucks/#580421ed690f

Vs

https://www.forbes.com/teams/golden-state-warriors/#737c732f0a74

It's almost as if team valuation doesn't have any bearing on the NBA salary cap.

It's obvious to everyone here that you don't know how things work.

Mil is low revenue and low value. It will always be a handicap.

The fact that Lacob and Co made 4 billion means more than the cap which is a year to year thing

[skones]

Mil is low revenue and low value. It will always be a handicap.

The fact that Lacob and Co made 4 billion means more than the cap which is a year to year thing

Team valuations and cash flow are the specific reason the Salary Cap and revenue sharing are in place. Marc Lasry, Wes Edens, and Jamie Dinan are the three primary owners of the Bucks. Jamie Dinan is worth 2.2B. Wes Edens 1B, Marc Lasry 1.8B. They're not little small town boys playing in a sandbox.

Revenue figures don't make the salary cap disappear, they don't make it rise. Again, you don't know how things work.

Way to move those goal posts though.

[RRyder823]

That's historical revisionism. He was basically the 1st option on offence in Indiana, that's not the role he was asked to play in Milwaukee. They aren't better without him, but if it makes you feel better than by all means tell yourself whatever you want.

I mean if you want to discount pretty much every statistical measurement you "might" have an argument there........ That is until you actually watch the how the Bucks played this year and realize DDV makes a bigger impact for them then Brogdon did



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It's the regular season, it's meaningless. I want Brogdon with his defence in a 7 game series. Is DDV better defensively? Nah.

Yes. Wow that was a tough one to answer



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