OT: Cops kill George Floyd

[Jalen Bluntson]

f target. a riot is the language of the unheard. they better hope a broken window is the only retribution they face from the people

Got a problem with police? Go protest or riot at the local precincts!! WTF does Target have to do with anything? What did the workers at Target do to anyone?

Come on man!

[Pointgod]

Question.

Why is it ok to storm a legitlative building with AK47s, not a "arrest those people for threatening"?

WHy is it ok, for Hong Kong protestors to throw rocks at police, burn cars, break store windows etc.

Why then do these same Americans who applauded many of these HK militant protests, mitigate the innocent death of two men and the resulting aftermath?

They were white duh.

[mpharris36]

f target. a riot is the language of the unheard. they better hope a broken window is the only retribution they face from the people

Got a problem with police? Go protest or riot at the local precincts!! WTF does Target have to do with anything? What did the workers at Target do to anyone?

Come on man!

agreed with the above. Rioting and protesting at the police department is one thing. They are the people you have an issue with.

The looters and the people burning down local businesses are selfish and doing nothing to help the cause. The post above referencing the moderate "white" being an issue by standing by and doing nothing because they are looking out for themselves. You could make a case the above actions of looting and destroying the community are doing more harm.

By all means protest, riot. Go right at the police the people doing the wrongdoing to try and make significant change. But lets not act like the people looting and stealing sh*t at Target care about George Floyd and trying to get justice for his senseless/disgusting killing, because they aren't.

[GONYK]

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[robillionaire]

You can disagree with the protest but recognize the MLK quote is directly referencing those who prefer order to justice and disagree with the methods of direct action being employed right now. When there is no justice so you will not have order. This is a direct consequence. No justice no peace

[robillionaire]

Question.

Why is it ok to storm a legitlative building with AK47s, not a "arrest those people for threatening"?

WHy is it ok, for Hong Kong protestors to throw rocks at police, burn cars, break store windows etc.

Why then do these same Americans who applauded many of these HK militant protests, mitigate the innocent death of two men and the resulting aftermath?

I’d answer this but I don’t want to derail the topic at hand, but I’ll just say if you think about the true nature of the right wing protests at the legislative building and the ones in HK and the nature of these protests and who supports each one and who is threatened by the other things will start to become clear

[mpharris36]

You can disagree with the protest but recognize the MLK quote is directly referencing those who prefer order to justice and disagree with the methods of direct action being employed right now. When there is no justice so you will not have order. This is a direct consequence. No justice no peace

I do recognize that and can honestly say I am not perfect and probably fit into this category.

I have a 1 year old son, spend 3 hours a day commuting back and forth to work so I can hopefully provide him with any opportunity he wants in life. I spend the weekends spending time with my family from all the lost time I am working throughout the week.

I try to do my part in raising him the right way, like the way I was raised. To treat everyone as equal and to not judge anyone because they are different then you. I probably can do more and I do make an effort to speak up when I notice something that isn't right but I do acknowledge that since it isn't actively effecting my life, that is my fault and I own that. But I simply can't support in the same way as a protester or rioter. My family (as I assume this is similar to almost everyone) is my number 1 importance, I cannot support in a way that could possibly get me arrested because I would be failing my family and that is my #1 responsibility...

[robillionaire]

You can disagree with the protest but recognize the MLK quote is directly referencing those who prefer order to justice and disagree with the methods of direct action being employed right now. When there is no justice so you will not have order. This is a direct consequence. No justice no peace

I do recognize that and can honestly say I am not perfect and probably fit into this category.

I have a 1 year old son, spend 3 hours a day commuting back and forth to work so I can hopefully provide him with any opportunity he wants in life. I spend the weekends spending time with my family from all the lost time I am working throughout the week.

I try to do my part in raising him the right way, like the way I was raised. To treat everyone as equal and to not judge anyone because they are different then you. I probably can do more and I do make an effort to speak up when I notice something that isn't right. But I simply can't support in the same way as a protester or rioter. My family (as I assume this is similar to almost everyone) is my number 1 importance, I cannot support in a way that could possibly get me arrested because I would be failing my family and that is my #1 responsibility...

I hear where you’re coming from, and that’s a good point, I’m not saying everyone must riot. Just that I do understand and support the ones who are and try to get where they are coming from too. Don’t act like nobody has not tried a less destructive route or has asked or BEGGED for a change that doesn’t seem to be coming. I’m just trying to make people think about their role in all this, that’s all and asking people if they had to choose between order and justice which they prefer. I’m feeding my 7 month old spoons of carrots in between posts and he’s flipping them everywhere as we speak. But we gotta consider some people have to prepare for the very real possibility of their kids getting lynched one day

[robillionaire]

I think to paraphrase what you’re saying is that you have something to lose. A lot of people are discovering they don’t have much to lose anymore. Their family ain’t safe.

[mpharris36]

You can disagree with the protest but recognize the MLK quote is directly referencing those who prefer order to justice and disagree with the methods of direct action being employed right now. When there is no justice so you will not have order. This is a direct consequence. No justice no peace

I do recognize that and can honestly say I am not perfect and probably fit into this category.

I have a 1 year old son, spend 3 hours a day commuting back and forth to work so I can hopefully provide him with any opportunity he wants in life. I spend the weekends spending time with my family from all the lost time I am working throughout the week.

I try to do my part in raising him the right way, like the way I was raised. To treat everyone as equal and to not judge anyone because they are different then you. I probably can do more and I do make an effort to speak up when I notice something that isn't right. But I simply can't support in the same way as a protester or rioter. My family (as I assume this is similar to almost everyone) is my number 1 importance, I cannot support in a way that could possibly get me arrested because I would be failing my family and that is my #1 responsibility...

I hear where you’re coming from, and that’s a good point, I’m not saying everyone must riot. Just that I do understand and support the ones who are and try to get where they are coming from too. Don’t act like nobody has not tried a less destructive route or has asked or BEGGED for a change that doesn’t seem to be coming. I’m just trying to make people think about their role in all this, that’s all and asking people if they had to choose between order and justice which they prefer. I’m feeding my 7 month old spoons of carrots in between posts and he’s flipping them everywhere as we speak. But we gotta consider some people have to prepare for the very real possibility of their kids getting lynched one day

Totally understand and agree with a lot of what you are saying.

I do acknowledge that since it isn't actively effecting my life I am not doing as much as I probably could, and that is my fault and I own that.

I am not even questioning the riots. I however do believe there is a positive way for change and to riot. For example assuming every riot/protester is there to support the cause isn't accurate. The lady stealing the martha stewart lamps (the white lady) do you think she cares about George Floyd? Or do you think she is just taking advantage of a situation where the true people trying to make an impact are holding up the police while she can selfishly steal?

[Capn'O]

The riots seem to be a reciprocal "you break the public trust, we'll break the citizen responsibility code" call and response. With the benefit that the looters get the stuff Obviously, everyone doesn't do it or believe in it. I'd like to think I wouldn't. But I am less concerned with the riots than I am seeing that public servants that use excessive and unnecessary force are accountable to justice.

[3toheadmelo]

Not saying I agree with looting but I totally get why they’re doing it

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[DOT]

The riots seem to be a reciprocal "you break the public trust, we'll break the citizen responsibility code" call and response. With the benefit that the looters get the stuff Obviously, everyone doesn't do it or believe in it. I'd like to think I wouldn't. But I am less concerned with the riots than I am seeing that public servants that use excessive and unnecessary force are accountable to justice.

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[Zenzibar]

Question.

Why is it ok to storm a legitlative building with AK47s, not a "arrest those people for threatening"?

WHy is it ok, for Hong Kong protestors to throw rocks at police, burn cars, break store windows etc.

Why then do these same Americans who applauded many of these HK militant protests, mitigate the innocent death of two men and the resulting aftermath?

I’d answer this but I don’t want to derail the topic at hand, but I’ll just say if you think about the true nature of the right wing protests at the legislative building and the ones in HK and the nature of these protests and who supports each one and who is threatened by the other things will start to become clear

Absolutely. What one has to be concern with are radicals that hide behind masks and who arrive from out of town to create a certain narrative for the MSM to jump on.

Looking at financial alternatives is a must, i.e. boycotts and protesting in front of corporate consumer stores.

[nedleeds]

You can disagree with the protest but recognize the MLK quote is directly referencing those who prefer order to justice and disagree with the methods of direct action being employed right now. When there is no justice so you will not have order. This is a direct consequence. No justice no peace

They were fired immediately and will likely be arraigned on murder. At least the rioters used to wait for the jury to come back. This is just people stealing and destroying **** over something they could care less about.

[thebuzzardman]

Even if you want to go down the path of "rioters 100% wrong", without looking into context, effectiveness, anything, it's always "interesting" that the actions of about 1% of the crowd get the whole event tagged with "rioting" when 99% of the crowd was protesting peacefully.

Obviously, we know why this is.
And while most citizens legitimately value "law and order" for what it is, never forget it's a pretty obvious code word/dog whistle too. Which also depends on context, but pretty often it's clear what context it's being used in, and it's not a good one.

[thebuzzardman]

Killed 9, wounded 1 other, how he was arrested:

[robillionaire]

Killed 9, wounded 1 other, how he was arrested:

they took him to burger king

[thebuzzardman]

Killed 9, wounded 1 other, how he was arrested:

they took him to burger king

Jesus. That's right. I forgot that part.

[god shammgod]

all this time i never knew why george floyd was even being arrested. i just read it was because he was suspected of forgery ? is that true ? that's a white collar crime. that's crazy.