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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#321 » by Synciere » Sun May 31, 2020 2:33 pm

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nedleeds wrote:How is the burn your own neighborhood playbook working out? If there was this level of outrage every Monday morning over the 10 dead in Chicago instead of when 1 guy dies every year there would be real change. But there isn't, there's no appetite in the media for it since it's not sensational. There's no appetite for it in the local governments because they're all scared of blame. There's no appetite for it by the "black leadership" demagogues because it's black people killing black people. This is what 50% of the country thinks, why do "they" only care when it's a cop or a white guy. Real change will come when 50% of the country cares about the 10 dead, until then it's just exhibition.


There’s no appetite for it because in Chicago if you kill someone you go to jail. They only care when it’s a cop because cops don’t go to jail. How isn’t that understood?

And always reaching to Chicago and ‘black on black’ crime is weak. 85% of white people are killed by other white people. Are we concerned with white on white crime in this country?


Well no one is protesting about white lives matter.

I think most people agree on police reform and criminal justice reform. But if communities of color would have this same energy to combat violence and drugs in our own communities we would start to see progress on both those fronts which are the main issues for communities of color.


There’s no need to protest for white lives matter, because the laws and prosecutions make it clear their lives matter. There’s a punishment for killing white people.

And we’re back to the black on black crime portion of the show while ignoring the systemic ways communities of color are stripped of education, tax dollars and base through re-districting (which is exactly what happened in Chicago), and ignoring the 500 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow and the last 50 years of the new Jim Crow which is/was the purposeful enslavement of black people through the jail system, by making ‘black’ drugs ten times more punitive than ‘white’ drugs, regardless of their danger or impact.

The plight and treatment of the Black man in this country is NOT the Black man’s fault, so if you believe that it is on black people to fix these situations, these killers, these cops who don’t go to jail because white prosecutors are too **** to face police unions, then you sir, are the problem.

IT WAS NOT GEORGE FLOYD’S FAULT THAT DEREK CHAUVIN KILLED HIM!!!!

STOP REDIRECTING BLAME AWAY FROM THE MURDERERS AND PLACING FAULT AT THE FEET OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE UNARMED AND VICTIMS!
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#322 » by robillionaire » Sun May 31, 2020 2:42 pm

the attempt to blame "outside agitators" and "antifa" and "soros" is a tried and true method to delegitimize the righteous organic anger of the people as well as to divide us up, similar tactics used since the civil rights movement. Also I see some liberals are now trying to blame "Russia" for the protests. As if Russia is responsible for a 400 year racist history finally reaching a boiling point as if we need some kind of foreign interference to be upset. They just cannot allow the narrative that people truly are fed up with a failed system and have an authentic reason to be this angry. The outside agitators are undercover cops or cops provoking and escalating violence

also when is the media going to refer to our people as "freedom fighters" as they would a protester in a country they have a vested interest in destabilizing

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#323 » by Retired_Doc » Sun May 31, 2020 2:49 pm

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ElMelo7 wrote:
Synciere wrote:
There’s no appetite for it because in Chicago if you kill someone you go to jail. They only care when it’s a cop because cops don’t go to jail. How isn’t that understood?

And always reaching to Chicago and ‘black on black’ crime is weak. 85% of white people are killed by other white people. Are we concerned with white on white crime in this country?


Well no one is protesting about white lives matter.

I think most people agree on police reform and criminal justice reform. But if communities of color would have this same energy to combat violence and drugs in our own communities we would start to see progress on both those fronts which are the main issues for communities of color.


There’s no need to protest for white lives matter, because the laws and prosecutions make it clear their lives matter. There’s a punishment for killing white people.

And we’re back to the black on black crime portion of the show while ignoring the systemic ways communities of color are stripped of education, tax dollars and base through re-districting (which is exactly what happened in Chicago), and ignoring the 500 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow and the last 50 years of the new Jim Crow which is/was the purposeful enslavement of black people through the jail system, by making ‘black’ drugs ten times more punitive than ‘white’ drugs, regardless of their danger or impact.

The plight and treatment of the Black man in this country is NOT the Black man’s fault, so if you believe that it is on black people to fix these situations, these killers, these cops who don’t go to jail because white prosecutors are too **** to face police unions, then you sir, are the problem.

IT WAS NOT GEORGE FLOYD’S FAULT THAT DEREK CHAUVIN KILLED HIM!!!!

STOP REDIRECTING BLAME AWAY FROM THE MURDERERS AND PLACING FAULT AT THE FEET OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE UNARMED AND VICTIMS!


Are you telling us now that the black people who are looting stores in Minn are "victims?" Peaceful protesting is one thing. Criminal activity such as looting is quite another.

And let's remember something else. Some of these Black protesters are destroying shops where their fellow Black people were working and had good jobs. Now they don't have a job. You still in favor of violent and criminal "protesting?" Please explain to us how these type of "protests" that we're now seeing in major cities benefit the Black community.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#324 » by Synciere » Sun May 31, 2020 2:56 pm

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ElMelo7 wrote:
Well no one is protesting about white lives matter.

I think most people agree on police reform and criminal justice reform. But if communities of color would have this same energy to combat violence and drugs in our own communities we would start to see progress on both those fronts which are the main issues for communities of color.


There’s no need to protest for white lives matter, because the laws and prosecutions make it clear their lives matter. There’s a punishment for killing white people.

And we’re back to the black on black crime portion of the show while ignoring the systemic ways communities of color are stripped of education, tax dollars and base through re-districting (which is exactly what happened in Chicago), and ignoring the 500 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow and the last 50 years of the new Jim Crow which is/was the purposeful enslavement of black people through the jail system, by making ‘black’ drugs ten times more punitive than ‘white’ drugs, regardless of their danger or impact.

The plight and treatment of the Black man in this country is NOT the Black man’s fault, so if you believe that it is on black people to fix these situations, these killers, these cops who don’t go to jail because white prosecutors are too **** to face police unions, then you sir, are the problem.

IT WAS NOT GEORGE FLOYD’S FAULT THAT DEREK CHAUVIN KILLED HIM!!!!

STOP REDIRECTING BLAME AWAY FROM THE MURDERERS AND PLACING FAULT AT THE FEET OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE UNARMED AND VICTIMS!


Are you telling us now that the black people who are looting stores in Minn are "victims?" Peaceful protesting is one thing. Criminal activity such as looting is quite another.

And let's remember something else. Some of these Black protesters are destroying shops where their fellow Black people were working and had good jobs. Now they don't have a job. You still in favor of violent and criminal "protesting?" Please explain to us how these type of "protests" that we're now seeing in major cities benefit the Black community.


Why are you more concerned with looters than murderers?? Would any of this be happening if unarmed Black people weren’t being killed and their murderers let off with nothing more than slaps on the wrists? And since when did white america become against looting? Historically white america had looted this country, an entire race of people and their livelihoods for hundreds of years, and are now looting lives through unfair legal practices such as mandatory minimums and you know, cop killers, but all of a sudden the real issue here is the looting?? After continuous murders that’s what you choose to focus on?!?! Really?!?!

I’m not in favor of violent protests at all. How bout this? How bout we get to the root cause of this? How bout we go back and make sure every unarmed civilian killed by the police gets justice? We can all agree that if you stop killing unarmed civilians and ignoring prosecutions based on race these lootings will stop right?

**** a Target! People are being killed with no justice but you want to focus of the looting. Gotcha.

Anything to ignore that these cops are in the wrong and reserve prosecution.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#325 » by robillionaire » Sun May 31, 2020 3:01 pm

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Why are you more concerned with looters than murderers?? Would any of this be happening if unarmed Black people weren’t being killed and their murderers let off with nothing more than slaps on the wrists? And since when did white america become against looting? Historically white america had looted this country, an entire race of people and their livelihoods for hundreds of years, and are now looting lives through unfair legal practices such as mandatory minimums and you know, cop killers, but all of a sudden the real issue here is the looting?? After continuous murders that’s what you choose to focus on?!?! Really?!?!

I’m not in favor of violent protests at all. How bout this? How bout we get to the root cause of this? How bout we go back and make sure every unarmed civilian killed by the police gets justice? We can all agree that if you stop killing unarmed civilians and ignoring prosecutions based on race these lootings will stop right?

**** a Target! People are being killed with no justice but you want to focus of the looting. Gotcha.

Anything to ignore that these cops are in the wrong and reserve prosecution.


i had to quote it because one and-1 just isn't enough

people choosing to focus on the plight of brick and mortar at a time like this are revealing themselves
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#326 » by malik959 » Sun May 31, 2020 3:18 pm

Retired_Doc wrote:
Synciere wrote:
ElMelo7 wrote:
Well no one is protesting about white lives matter.

I think most people agree on police reform and criminal justice reform. But if communities of color would have this same energy to combat violence and drugs in our own communities we would start to see progress on both those fronts which are the main issues for communities of color.


There’s no need to protest for white lives matter, because the laws and prosecutions make it clear their lives matter. There’s a punishment for killing white people.

And we’re back to the black on black crime portion of the show while ignoring the systemic ways communities of color are stripped of education, tax dollars and base through re-districting (which is exactly what happened in Chicago), and ignoring the 500 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow and the last 50 years of the new Jim Crow which is/was the purposeful enslavement of black people through the jail system, by making ‘black’ drugs ten times more punitive than ‘white’ drugs, regardless of their danger or impact.

The plight and treatment of the Black man in this country is NOT the Black man’s fault, so if you believe that it is on black people to fix these situations, these killers, these cops who don’t go to jail because white prosecutors are too **** to face police unions, then you sir, are the problem.

IT WAS NOT GEORGE FLOYD’S FAULT THAT DEREK CHAUVIN KILLED HIM!!!!

STOP REDIRECTING BLAME AWAY FROM THE MURDERERS AND PLACING FAULT AT THE FEET OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE UNARMED AND VICTIMS!


Are you telling us now that the black people who are looting stores in Minn are "victims?" Peaceful protesting is one thing. Criminal activity such as looting is quite another.

And let's remember something else. Some of these Black protesters are destroying shops where their fellow Black people were working and had good jobs. Now they don't have a job. You still in favor of violent and criminal "protesting?" Please explain to us how these type of "protests" that we're now seeing in major cities benefit the Black community.


If you watch a lot of these looting videos out you'll see that there are a lot of white people breaking windows during peaceful protest.
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Post#327 » by Pointgod » Sun May 31, 2020 3:23 pm

For all the “why are they looting their own community?!” people.

Yeah take a seat and focus on the 3 cops that murdered a man yet are still free.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/authorities-suspect-white-supremacists-and-far-left-extremists-are-behind-violence-at-protests/

Federal and local authorities suspect some of the violent clashes during recent protests were instigated by white supremacist groups and far-left extremists.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#328 » by Synciere » Sun May 31, 2020 3:28 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Synciere wrote:
Why are you more concerned with looters than murderers?? Would any of this be happening if unarmed Black people weren’t being killed and their murderers let off with nothing more than slaps on the wrists? And since when did white america become against looting? Historically white america had looted this country, an entire race of people and their livelihoods for hundreds of years, and are now looting lives through unfair legal practices such as mandatory minimums and you know, cop killers, but all of a sudden the real issue here is the looting?? After continuous murders that’s what you choose to focus on?!?! Really?!?!

I’m not in favor of violent protests at all. How bout this? How bout we get to the root cause of this? How bout we go back and make sure every unarmed civilian killed by the police gets justice? We can all agree that if you stop killing unarmed civilians and ignoring prosecutions based on race these lootings will stop right?

**** a Target! People are being killed with no justice but you want to focus of the looting. Gotcha.

Anything to ignore that these cops are in the wrong and reserve prosecution.


i had to quote it because one and-1 just isn't enough

people choosing to focus on the plight of brick and mortar at a time like this are revealing themselves


No statutes of limitations on murder bruh! Shyt, we got a couple dozen of these cops on film, killing children! Just roll the mf tape!! Lol, we literally have them on film killing children and can’t get a conviction lol.. how sad is that?!?!

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Post#329 » by Zenzibar » Sun May 31, 2020 3:32 pm

malik959 wrote:
Retired_Doc wrote:
Synciere wrote:
There’s no need to protest for white lives matter, because the laws and prosecutions make it clear their lives matter. There’s a punishment for killing white people.

And we’re back to the black on black crime portion of the show while ignoring the systemic ways communities of color are stripped of education, tax dollars and base through re-districting (which is exactly what happened in Chicago), and ignoring the 500 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow and the last 50 years of the new Jim Crow which is/was the purposeful enslavement of black people through the jail system, by making ‘black’ drugs ten times more punitive than ‘white’ drugs, regardless of their danger or impact.

The plight and treatment of the Black man in this country is NOT the Black man’s fault, so if you believe that it is on black people to fix these situations, these killers, these cops who don’t go to jail because white prosecutors are too **** to face police unions, then you sir, are the problem.

IT WAS NOT GEORGE FLOYD’S FAULT THAT DEREK CHAUVIN KILLED HIM!!!!

STOP REDIRECTING BLAME AWAY FROM THE MURDERERS AND PLACING FAULT AT THE FEET OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE UNARMED AND VICTIMS!


Are you telling us now that the black people who are looting stores in Minn are "victims?" Peaceful protesting is one thing. Criminal activity such as looting is quite another.

And let's remember something else. Some of these Black protesters are destroying shops where their fellow Black people were working and had good jobs. Now they don't have a job. You still in favor of violent and criminal "protesting?" Please explain to us how these type of "protests" that we're now seeing in major cities benefit the Black community.


If you watch a lot of these looting videos out you'll see that there are a lot of white people breaking windows during peaceful protest.


Exactly. Bro ask these mothfkrs here, .why are there these young whites breaking windows, looting stores and throwing bottles at cops in the name of someone they would not normally give a fk about.

Also ask them, did you you catch some whites being the first to stomp on the guy protectgiung his store?
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Post#330 » by Fat Kat » Sun May 31, 2020 4:00 pm

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Post#331 » by Blockwatcher » Sun May 31, 2020 4:36 pm

robillionaire wrote:the attempt to blame "outside agitators" and "antifa" and "soros" is a tried and true method to delegitimize the righteous organic anger of the people as well as to divide us up, similar tactics used since the civil rights movement. Also I see some liberals are now trying to blame "Russia" for the protests. As if Russia is responsible for a 400 year racist history finally reaching a boiling point as if we need some kind of foreign interference to be upset. They just cannot allow the narrative that people truly are fed up with a failed system and have an authentic reason to be this angry. The outside agitators are undercover cops or cops provoking and escalating violence

also when is the media going to refer to our people as "freedom fighters" as they would a protester in a country they have a vested interest in destabilizing

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Are you saying you stand with antifa?
Im not trying to bait you or anything but this seems like a weird position to take for somebody who feels a righteous anger... Unless you feel antifa shares that same righteous anger?
I don’t think they feel the same righteous anger, and I feel they do more to delegitimize any movement they introduce themselves into.
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Post#332 » by Rich Rane » Sun May 31, 2020 4:57 pm

Soooo African American Music Appreciation Month wasn't enough? Black people are just being selfish now./sarcastic tension breaker
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#333 » by nedleeds » Sun May 31, 2020 5:02 pm

Synciere wrote:
nedleeds wrote:There’s no appetite for it because in Chicago if you kill someone you go to jail. They only care when it’s a cop because cops don’t go to jail. How isn’t that understood?

And always reaching to Chicago and ‘black on black’ crime is weak. 85% of white people are killed by other white people. Are we concerned with white on white crime in this country?


I agree with you. Why don't cops go to jail in obvious cases where evidence merits an arrest warrant like Floyds murder?

Cops don't get immediately arrested for murder in broad daylight like Floyd because they are protected by police unions, which are all Democrat, in Democrat run cities, with Democrat mayors, Democrat chief of police, Democrat judges and Democrat councils. Start by voting out the turds who are in bed together. Ranting about white supremacy might get everyone excited but it is has dick to do with why a murder in broad daylight, on film doesn't result in a swift arrest. It's the same democrat cronies that have been re-elected in these cities for 30+ years. Vote them out.
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Post#335 » by Fury » Sun May 31, 2020 5:38 pm

nedleeds wrote:
Synciere wrote:
nedleeds wrote:There’s no appetite for it because in Chicago if you kill someone you go to jail. They only care when it’s a cop because cops don’t go to jail. How isn’t that understood?

And always reaching to Chicago and ‘black on black’ crime is weak. 85% of white people are killed by other white people. Are we concerned with white on white crime in this country?


I agree with you. Why don't cops go to jail in obvious cases where evidence merits an arrest warrant like Floyds murder?

Cops don't get immediately arrested for murder in broad daylight like Floyd because they are protected by police unions, which are all Democrat, in Democrat run cities, with Democrat mayors, Democrat chief of police, Democrat judges and Democrat councils. Start by voting out the turds who are in bed together. Ranting about white supremacy might get everyone excited but it is has dick to do with why a murder in broad daylight, on film doesn't result in a swift arrest. It's the same democrat cronies that have been re-elected in these cities for 30+ years. Vote them out.


I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make. Or what you’re implication is. Democrat, Republican it doesn’t matter. There’s an systemic issue of racism in policing. That’s what this is all about. So you don’t disagree?
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Post#336 » by Retired_Doc » Sun May 31, 2020 5:54 pm

nedleeds wrote:
Synciere wrote:
nedleeds wrote:There’s no appetite for it because in Chicago if you kill someone you go to jail. They only care when it’s a cop because cops don’t go to jail. How isn’t that understood?

And always reaching to Chicago and ‘black on black’ crime is weak. 85% of white people are killed by other white people. Are we concerned with white on white crime in this country?


I agree with you. Why don't cops go to jail in obvious cases where evidence merits an arrest warrant like Floyds murder?

Cops don't get immediately arrested for murder in broad daylight like Floyd because they are protected by police unions, which are all Democrat, in Democrat run cities, with Democrat mayors, Democrat chief of police, Democrat judges and Democrat councils. Start by voting out the turds who are in bed together. Ranting about white supremacy might get everyone excited but it is has dick to do with why a murder in broad daylight, on film doesn't result in a swift arrest. It's the same democrat cronies that have been re-elected in these cities for 30+ years. Vote them out.


Very well-stated. I have always been surprised as to why most Black folks vote for Democrats even though these Dems seldom do anything positive for the Black community.

Further, is it not a fact that just before the Covid virus hit us all, that under Trump Black employment was at an all-time high?
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Post#337 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun May 31, 2020 6:02 pm

Retired_Doc wrote:...I seriously doubt George Floyd's murderous cop is going to evade a long prison sentence.


You would think, but based on the actual statistics, getting convictions on police officers for killing citizens is next to impossible. The last figure I saw is that they're only even charged -- charged -- in less than 2 percent of instances, and that's before you even get to trying to throw them in jail. The Post did a big dive after the Ferguson mess in which they determined that something like 13 officers were convicted in more than 1,000 instances over a given time period.

And keep in mind; this isn't the result of one person or organization manipulating events, it's playing out small-scale across the country, over and over and over again in scores of different cities, towns and municipalities. The bottom line: Police and the DA's offices who routinely refuse to prosecute them, are going to look out for their own interests before that of the citizens they're sworn to protect, and that's wrong. Basically, police have been given so much latitude -- some of which they deserve, for obvious reasons -- that all they have to do is say they were afraid for their life and in all but the most egregious cases they're set.

Hell, you could already see the gears churning here with the DA making his nebulous, wholly irresponsible comment about phantom evidence with zero evidence or documentation, followed by his gem about "gee, this case really moved fast!" a couple of days later after they finally put Chauvin behind bars where he belongs (and where you or I would have been put immediately if we'd done the same thing). Yeah, no sh*t the case moved fast, your city is on fire in large part because you guys don't do your jobs.

You also saw it in that ridiculous initial report about the alleged cause of death, in which Floyd being "restrained" was just one of several factors cited. As a former newspaper reporter, this is what's called burying the lede. Putting someone in handcuffs is restraining them. Using an unsanctioned technique to kneel on a man's neck long past the point he is moving or responding, is far, far beyond that.

So even in this case, you've already had a taste of how the state moves instinctively to protect itself and its agents. If people are skeptical, I don't blame them. Until that gavel bangs and he's led off in shackles, you can't assume anything.
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Post#338 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun May 31, 2020 6:12 pm

nedleeds wrote:
Synciere wrote:
nedleeds wrote:There’s no appetite for it because in Chicago if you kill someone you go to jail. They only care when it’s a cop because cops don’t go to jail. How isn’t that understood?

And always reaching to Chicago and ‘black on black’ crime is weak. 85% of white people are killed by other white people. Are we concerned with white on white crime in this country?


I agree with you. Why don't cops go to jail in obvious cases where evidence merits an arrest warrant like Floyds murder?

Cops don't get immediately arrested for murder in broad daylight like Floyd because they are protected by police unions, which are all Democrat, in Democrat run cities, with Democrat mayors, Democrat chief of police, Democrat judges and Democrat councils. Start by voting out the turds who are in bed together. Ranting about white supremacy might get everyone excited but it is has dick to do with why a murder in broad daylight, on film doesn't result in a swift arrest. It's the same democrat cronies that have been re-elected in these cities for 30+ years. Vote them out.


Lol, the head of the Minneapolis police union is a die-hard Trump guy. Here's a shot of him speaking at one of our idiot president's cletus festivals, which is definitely something a democrat would do:

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Given that he's elected, I highly, highly doubt he's an outlier. But hey, VERY WELL-STATED.

Side note: Here's some additional reading. Sounds like a very swell dude.

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapolis-police-union-president-kroll-george-floyd-racism/
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Post#339 » by Kampuchea » Sun May 31, 2020 6:14 pm

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Post#340 » by Retired_Doc » Sun May 31, 2020 6:17 pm

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