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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#281 » by dice » Sun May 31, 2020 11:58 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:^ I'll take a look at these. The first three I wasn't familiar with.

Re: the last video, I can tell you that was in fact NOT the shop owner, and that he had charged that group of men with a sword before they stomped him out.

none of what happened to any of those people was justifiable, but i can't stand it when people with a legitimate point to make distort the truth. examples:

-after the guy w/ the flag was sucker punched, i only saw one other guy in a puffy colored jacket actually assault him, yet the caption is "mob beats him." sure looked to me like he was being protected by that mob more than being beaten. as evidenced by him emerging relatively unscathed and being escorted away

-it did not appear to me that the guy that was kicked while "unconscious" on the street was kicked in the head, as claimed. it looked to be in the neck/shoulder area, as a kick that forceful to the head would do some serious damage, perhaps ACTUALLY knocking him unconscious. and his attempt to "help" the guy with the flag is shown at the end of the flag video when he comes in after things are settling down and tries to sucker punch a protester
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#282 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Sun May 31, 2020 11:58 pm

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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#283 » by dice » Mon Jun 1, 2020 12:00 am

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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#284 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Mon Jun 1, 2020 12:07 am

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bizarre


“Protest peacefully and you’ll have our respect.”

Sure.
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#285 » by dice » Mon Jun 1, 2020 12:21 am

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dice wrote:
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bizarre


“Protest peacefully and you’ll have our respect.”

Sure.

i'm not sure that the intent was to antagonize. crowd knew rig was approaching - probably was blaring its horn. and why would the driver stop in the middle of the crowd? seems like there wasn't an awareness that a protest was occurring on the highway
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#286 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Mon Jun 1, 2020 12:23 am

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dice wrote:bizarre


“Protest peacefully and you’ll have our respect.”

Sure.

i'm not sure that the intent was to antagonize. crowd knew rig was approaching - probably was blaring its horn. and why would the driver stop in the middle of the crowd? seems like there wasn't an awareness that a protest was occurring on the highway



The bridge was already blocked off. He got through a barrier and many other protesters before reaching that point. Truck had a confederate flag on it. He knew what he was doing.
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#287 » by dice » Mon Jun 1, 2020 12:40 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
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“Protest peacefully and you’ll have our respect.”

Sure.

i'm not sure that the intent was to antagonize. crowd knew rig was approaching - probably was blaring its horn. and why would the driver stop in the middle of the crowd? seems like there wasn't an awareness that a protest was occurring on the highway



The bridge was already blocked off. He got through a barrier and many other protesters before reaching that point. Truck had a confederate flag on it. He knew what he was doing.

why sound the horn (presumably) and stop in the middle of the crowd?
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#288 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Mon Jun 1, 2020 12:49 am

dice wrote:
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dice wrote:i'm not sure that the intent was to antagonize. crowd knew rig was approaching - probably was blaring its horn. and why would the driver stop in the middle of the crowd? seems like there wasn't an awareness that a protest was occurring on the highway



The bridge was already blocked off. He got through a barrier and many other protesters before reaching that point. Truck had a confederate flag on it. He knew what he was doing.

why sound the horn (presumably) and stop in the middle of the crowd?



I assume it was a ‘get out of the way or get run over’ sort of thing. But who knows.
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#289 » by GetBuLLish » Mon Jun 1, 2020 1:27 am

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Post#290 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Mon Jun 1, 2020 1:57 am

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The sadism this requires. My god.
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#291 » by Dresden » Mon Jun 1, 2020 2:31 am

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Are you referring to racism (which is a real problem but no where near as significant as it was even just in the recent past and not one of the top problems facing minorities in this country today) or the made-up/exaggerated racism that the media has convinced ignorant people to believe?

If it's the latter you are referring to, then we agree.


When you say "the media has convinced the ignorant people to believe"- who exactly are your referring to by "the ignorant people"???


I know this is your cute way of implying that I'm racist (the common tactic of someone who can't debate using facts and logic), but I'll answer your question: I'm referring to the people that think that cops are indiscriminately killing people because they are black and doing so at disproportionate rates compared to the rest of society. As these riots have proven, it's people of all colors that believe this nonsense. And as I stated earlier, it seems like white people (lots of Antifa members) are committing a significant, if not majority, of the property damage and violence.


Don't turn this on me- you're the one who is calling people who disagree with your perspective "ignorant". Do you think Michael Jordon is ignorant? Michelle and Barack Obama? The many other prominent African Americans who have expressed their outrage at the ongoing police brutality aimed against black people? Have they all just been manipulated by the media, too?
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#292 » by logical_art » Mon Jun 1, 2020 2:58 am

Nobody has yet to satisfactorily explain why when a white person kills a black person its nearly infinitely times worse in the eyes of black people and the median compared to when a black person kills a black person. More than 10x the number of black people were killed by other black people. Very few people care or know the victims names. Who can name the people killed last weekend in Chicago?

If you are concerned about black lives, the statistics starting point is black on black murders. These are facts.

So why is it that people only care about black lives when its a white killer, even though the problem of white on black crime is far far less significant than black on black crime?
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#293 » by Dresden » Mon Jun 1, 2020 3:14 am

logical_art wrote:Nobody has yet to satisfactorily explain why when a white person kills a black person its nearly infinitely times worse in the eyes of black people and the median compared to when a black person kills a black person. More than 10x the number of black people were killed by other black people. Very few people care or know the victims names. Who can name the people killed last weekend in Chicago?

If you are concerned about black lives, the statistics starting point is black on black murders. These are facts.

So why is it that people only care about black lives when its a white killer, even though the problem of white on black crime is far far less significant than black on black crime?


It's because these are police that are doing it.
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#294 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Mon Jun 1, 2020 3:20 am

logical_art wrote:Nobody has yet to satisfactorily explain why when a white person kills a black person its nearly infinitely times worse in the eyes of black people and the median compared to when a black person kills a black person. More than 10x the number of black people were killed by other black people. Very few people care or know the victims names. Who can name the people killed last weekend in Chicago?

If you are concerned about black lives, the statistics starting point is black on black murders. These are facts.

So why is it that people only care about black lives when its a white killer, even though the problem of white on black crime is far far less significant than black on black crime?


“Black on black on crime” is a meaningless trope. People of every race kill each other more often than they’re killed by other races. That’s how segregation works.

And Black people fight the underlying conditions that lead to non-police murders CONSTANTLY. Poverty being the biggest one. But police murders are particularly egregious because cops are a) supposed to protect and serve, b) so rarely charged let alone prosecuted, and c) far too often racist. The FBI warned of police departments being infiltrated by white supremacists years ago; it’s a phenomenon as old as American policing itself.

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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#295 » by SHO'NUFF » Mon Jun 1, 2020 3:30 am

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Just saying if you violently attack me or my property with fire and destruction I will use my amendment right to use lethal force under the constitutional law. Not innocent people & didn’t mean it as a threat without me being in danger.

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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#296 » by nitetrain8603 » Mon Jun 1, 2020 3:30 am

logical_art wrote:Nobody has yet to satisfactorily explain why when a white person kills a black person its nearly infinitely times worse in the eyes of black people and the median compared to when a black person kills a black person. More than 10x the number of black people were killed by other black people. Very few people care or know the victims names. Who can name the people killed last weekend in Chicago?

If you are concerned about black lives, the statistics starting point is black on black murders. These are facts.

So why is it that people only care about black lives when its a white killer, even though the problem of white on black crime is far far less significant than black on black crime?


That's a different story that I, like yourself, didn't get. The problem is, the systemic oppression of blacks, and really anyone who's darker than orange in this country. I don't know if I agree with the name "Black Lives Matter" for the campaign, because like you, I as well as a ton of people, bring up the same question you posed.

The outcry is for systemic oppression to stop. The whole, "as soon as a cop passes by I tense up as a black person" thing is real. This country has conditioned many people to look beyond it, including minorities. I remember as a Hispanic 5 year old, my dad always wanting me to look straight, never look a cop in the eye and always answer clearly as if I were already guilty. Black people have had to deal with slavery, with not getting equal opportunities (look at Kaepernick), as being treated less than equals. Blast rap music from a car as a black man and see how quickly they get pulled over. Blast Taylor Swift as a white person, and at most the cops chuckle.

Systemically, this country has conditioned everyone to think less of minorities, give less to minorities and worst of it all, fear minorities. The movie Crash does a decent job of giving people glimpses such as the scene when Sandra Bullock's character tenses up as two black men are walking on the same block in an opposite direction approach.

This country has a huge issue. And our president has nothing to calm anyone down. He wants to use force against our neighbors when love is what's required. And when that doesn't work, he wants to use more force. Then he goes out and calls the people of Michigan "good people" when they protested Stay at Home orders because they wanted to get a haircut. Look at how white terrorists like Dylan Roof are treated vs anyone darker than Trump.

I don't know how to fix the problem and I won't act like I do. The only thing that can fix it is love and respect for one another. But that's something that will never happen in America. Not in my lifetime.
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Post#297 » by dice » Mon Jun 1, 2020 3:35 am

Dresden wrote:
logical_art wrote:Nobody has yet to satisfactorily explain why when a white person kills a black person its nearly infinitely times worse in the eyes of black people and the median compared to when a black person kills a black person. More than 10x the number of black people were killed by other black people. Very few people care or know the victims names. Who can name the people killed last weekend in Chicago?

If you are concerned about black lives, the statistics starting point is black on black murders. These are facts.

So why is it that people only care about black lives when its a white killer, even though the problem of white on black crime is far far less significant than black on black crime?


It's because these are police that are doing it.

i already answered his question in the same manner yesterday. he ignored it. and he'll ignore your response and ask the same dumb question in the future
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Post#298 » by dice » Mon Jun 1, 2020 3:36 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
logical_art wrote:Nobody has yet to satisfactorily explain why when a white person kills a black person its nearly infinitely times worse in the eyes of black people and the median compared to when a black person kills a black person. More than 10x the number of black people were killed by other black people. Very few people care or know the victims names. Who can name the people killed last weekend in Chicago?

If you are concerned about black lives, the statistics starting point is black on black murders. These are facts.

So why is it that people only care about black lives when its a white killer, even though the problem of white on black crime is far far less significant than black on black crime?


“Black on black on crime” is a meaningless trope. People of every race kill each other more often than they’re killed by other races. That’s how segregation works.

And Black people fight the underlying conditions that lead to non-police murders CONSTANTLY. Poverty being the biggest one. But police murders are particularly egregious because cops are a) supposed to protect and serve, b) so rarely charged let alone prosecuted, and c) far too often racist. The FBI warned of police departments being infiltrated by white supremacists years ago; it’s a phenomenon as old as American policing itself.

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/402521/doc-26-white-supremacist-infiltration.pdf

but cops don't disproportionately target black people
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Re: Just Sad, "Chicago sees deadliest Memorial Day weekend in four years" 

Post#299 » by SHO'NUFF » Mon Jun 1, 2020 3:38 am

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“Protest peacefully and you’ll have our respect.”

Sure.



Wtf? Blocking a highway is not peaceful. It’s absolutely dangerous. Bunch of **** idiots in that clip.
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Post#300 » by dice » Mon Jun 1, 2020 3:39 am

logical_art wrote:So why is it that people only care about black lives when its a white killer

sheer ignorance
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