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Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#981 » by dobrojim » Tue Jun 2, 2020 7:30 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Ok I have a question. Doesn't the tassel normally come out the top? Is Trump HOLDING THE BIBLE UPSIDE DOWN?!?!?!?! (oh the horror)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52890650


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#982 » by bsilver » Tue Jun 2, 2020 7:37 pm

I never thought I'd see the day. George Will, in today's Washington Post, is calling for the defeat of all Senate Republicans that support Trump. These days, that's all but George Romney. A excerpt below. Bolding is mine.

The measures necessary for restoration of national equilibrium are many and will be protracted far beyond his removal. One such measure must be the removal of those in Congress who, unlike the sycophantic mediocrities who cosset him in the White House, will not disappear “magically,” as Eric Trump said the coronavirus would. Voters must dispatch his congressional enablers, especially the senators who still gambol around his ankles with a canine hunger for petting.
In life’s unforgiving arithmetic, we are the sum of our choices. Congressional Republicans have made theirs for more than 1,200 days. We cannot know all the measures necessary to restore the nation’s domestic health and international standing, but we know the first step: Senate Republicans must be routed, as condign punishment for their Vichyite collaboration, leaving the Republican remnant to wonder: Was it sensible to sacrifice dignity, such as it ever was, and to shed principles, if convictions so easily jettisoned could be dignified as principles, for . . . what? Praying people should pray, and all others should hope: May I never crave anything as much as these people crave membership in the world’s most risible deliberative body.

A political party’s primary function is to bestow its imprimatur on candidates, thereby proclaiming: This is who we are. In 2016, the Republican Party gave its principal nomination to a vulgarian and then toiled to elect him. And to stock Congress with invertebrates whose unswerving abjectness has enabled his institutional vandalism..."
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#983 » by Ruzious » Tue Jun 2, 2020 7:47 pm

And he's upping the vitriol ante even more. Now he's using the word "domination" against peaceful protesters in his front yard. He's congratulating himself for taking away the First Amendment rights from people he knows don't like him. Btw, if people don't think Barr was involved with what went on yesterday, I've got some beach-front property in New Orleans to sell you.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-tweets-no-problems-after-peaceful-protesters-tear-gassed-for-photo-op/ar-BB14VtBk?li=BBnb7Kz
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#984 » by dobrojim » Tue Jun 2, 2020 7:48 pm

Side x side (in the printed version), Will and Gerson, on a roll. But they're just
liberal snowflakes right?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-one-should-want-four-more-years-of-this-taste-of-ashes/2020/06/01/1a80ecf4-a425-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

Presidents seeking reelection bask in chants of “Four more years!” This year, however, most Americans — perhaps because they are, as the president predicted, weary from all the winning — might flinch: Four more years of this? The taste of ashes, metaphorical and now literal, dampens enthusiasm.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/every-crisis-america-faces-has-been-made-worse-by-trump/2020/06/01/7d2e9cf8-a447-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

Every crisis the United States now faces has been made worse by Trump’s limits as a leader and a man. We needed a president who could imagine what the American experiment looks like from the perspective of those who find its promises fraudulent. We got someone incapable of empathy. We needed a president who would be data driven in matters of public health policy. We got someone driven by irrational enthusiasms and the advice of cronies. We needed a president who could calm destructive passions. We got someone who now urges the militarization of his fight against the left. We needed a president capable of speaking across differences. We got someone whose only authentic public communications are expressions of rancor.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#985 » by dckingsfan » Tue Jun 2, 2020 7:52 pm

bsilver wrote:I never thought I'd see the day. George Will, in today's Washington Post, is calling for the defeat of all Senate Republicans that support Trump. These days, that's all but George Romney. A excerpt below. Bolding is mine.

The measures necessary for restoration of national equilibrium are many and will be protracted far beyond his removal. One such measure must be the removal of those in Congress who, unlike the sycophantic mediocrities who cosset him in the White House, will not disappear “magically,” as Eric Trump said the coronavirus would. Voters must dispatch his congressional enablers, especially the senators who still gambol around his ankles with a canine hunger for petting.
In life’s unforgiving arithmetic, we are the sum of our choices. Congressional Republicans have made theirs for more than 1,200 days. We cannot know all the measures necessary to restore the nation’s domestic health and international standing, but we know the first step: Senate Republicans must be routed, as condign punishment for their Vichyite collaboration, leaving the Republican remnant to wonder: Was it sensible to sacrifice dignity, such as it ever was, and to shed principles, if convictions so easily jettisoned could be dignified as principles, for . . . what? Praying people should pray, and all others should hope: May I never crave anything as much as these people crave membership in the world’s most risible deliberative body.

A political party’s primary function is to bestow its imprimatur on candidates, thereby proclaiming: This is who we are. In 2016, the Republican Party gave its principal nomination to a vulgarian and then toiled to elect him. And to stock Congress with invertebrates whose unswerving abjectness has enabled his institutional vandalism..."

Wow...
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#986 » by Wizardspride » Tue Jun 2, 2020 7:53 pm

Read on Twitter
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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#987 » by Ruzious » Tue Jun 2, 2020 7:53 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
badinage wrote:And ... a message to all the right-wingers and Trumpians out there:

It’s not that we want him out. Not anymore. It’s not that we want to push for some form of socialism. We’re beyond that. We want to take it down now. It. The whole shebang. It has to come down. To come down the way the statues of the Lost Cause are coming down. The way the statue of Saddam came down. The way the statue of Lenin came down. You have created or contributed to or been complicit in the making of a society that is brutal and inequitable and in which too many are in pain and struggling. And it doesn’t just have to stop — oh no, it’s stopping NOW, muthafukkers. It’s coming down NOW.

But peacefully, right? Let's follow MLK on this one...

They got the guns, but we have enough votes to DOMINATE them, and we had better take FULL advantage of that.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#988 » by DCZards » Tue Jun 2, 2020 9:45 pm

There is absolutely no doubt that the divisions that Trump has sown by going after the nation’s first black president, immigrants, Muslims, the media, blue states and their leaders, etc. has exacerbated the reaction we are seeing to the murder of George Floyd.

Add to that Trump’s anemic response to the Covid-19 crisis and yesterday’s absolutely horrific violent attack on peaceful protestors just so the president could have a photo op at St. John’s Church and why we would be surprised by what's happening in cities across this country.

Yes, people are rightfully outraged about the police brutality, but the reaction we are seeing in the streets is much more of a justifiable reaction to a president who has not just failed to lead time and time again...but always seems to throw gas on the fire.

I pray that our nation survives his presidency.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#989 » by Ruzious » Tue Jun 2, 2020 10:36 pm

2 Republican Senators deserve praise for showing some integrity and guts by speaking out:

A handful of Republicans criticized Mr. Trump's behavior. Senator Ben Sasse released a statement saying he was "against clearing out a peaceful protest for a photo op that treats the Word of God as a political prop." Senator Lisa Murkowski told reporters that "I did not think that what we saw last night was the America that I know."
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#990 » by Zonkerbl » Wed Jun 3, 2020 12:48 am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/matthew-lee-rupert-minneapolis-fbi/2020/06/01/32290d5c-a46e-11ea-b473-04905b1af82b_story.html

I read his Facebook page, he appears like an apolitical white trash teenager. Didn't stop Andy Ngo from immediately screaming "ANTIFAAAAAA" of course.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#991 » by Wizardspride » Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:55 am

Read on Twitter
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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#992 » by Pointgod » Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:15 am

nate33 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
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Read on Twitter
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Of course Nate won’t respond to this.

LOL. One guy, probably in Europe (where Evropa is based) starts a new fake Twitter account (which presumably had virtually no followers) and makes a tweet and THAT'S how you're going to tie all this rioting and looting to a white supremacist movement? This is all the evidence you have? At least find me one protester on the ground, or better yet, one guy committing actual violence, that is part of a white supremacist movement.

The Minneapolis mayor implied that nearly all of those arrested were out-of-town white supremacist agitators and you come up with a single tweet from a random guy with a new Twitter account.


Identity Evropa is a white supremacist group that was part of the unite the right rally. It’s not one guy in Europe as you try to dismissively put it. There were white supremacists encouraging their scumbag supporters to join the protestors and “**** **** up”. Google operation Bugaloo or Big Igloo. It really doesn’t matter how many white supremacists were on the ground, the fact is that there’s been a coordinated effort to infiltrate peaceful protests.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#993 » by Pointgod » Wed Jun 3, 2020 3:15 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#994 » by montestewart » Wed Jun 3, 2020 4:20 am

Wizardspride wrote:
Read on Twitter
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It’s like a “how dare you protest me after all I’ve done for you” offering empty stats to an uncritical white audience.

Bungled pandemic response, massive debt, record unemployment, widespread demonstrations and violence in response to widespread wanton and racially motivated police brutality. And the best is yet to come. Oh goody.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#995 » by montestewart » Wed Jun 3, 2020 4:28 am

Zonkerbl wrote:Ok I have a question. Doesn't the tassel normally come out the top? Is Trump HOLDING THE BIBLE UPSIDE DOWN?!?!?!?! (oh the horror)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52890650

It doesn’t matter. He can’t read
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#996 » by payitforward » Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:41 pm

If you would like to help the people of Minneapolis recover, check out https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/donate.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#997 » by payitforward » Wed Jun 3, 2020 1:52 pm

For those who didn't click on all he images in Klippenstein's tweet, please note the 3d item on this one:

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#998 » by Zonkerbl » Wed Jun 3, 2020 2:17 pm

payitforward wrote:For those who didn't click on all he images in Klippenstein's tweet, please note the 3d item on this one:

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Regarding the 1st one, I've seen videos on twitter showing that it was the police dropping off the bricks

maybe not that specific location
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#999 » by gtn130 » Wed Jun 3, 2020 4:23 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Read on Twitter


Nate, thoughts?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII 

Post#1000 » by gtn130 » Wed Jun 3, 2020 4:27 pm

Ruzious wrote:2 Republican Senators deserve praise for showing some integrity and guts by speaking out:

A handful of Republicans criticized Mr. Trump's behavior. Senator Ben Sasse released a statement saying he was "against clearing out a peaceful protest for a photo op that treats the Word of God as a political prop." Senator Lisa Murkowski told reporters that "I did not think that what we saw last night was the America that I know."


I'm of the mind at this point that Republicans speaking out is largely just theater. It's a coordinated effort to cover the collective ass of the GOP if there is ever a post-Trump reality.

The thing that gets me is the Concerned Squad of Romney, Sasse, Collins, etc never really speak out at the same time. It's always one or two of them and never a unified bloc of resistance. They want cover and also don't want to rock the boat too much.

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