Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

[RookieStar]

This draft seems deep because a guy like Vernon Carey who averaged 29 pts 14 rebs per 40 mpg gets no acknowledgement at all. He could be a perfect small ball center.

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More like most nba front offices finally wisened up to not drafting Bigs in the top of the draft unless they are generational talent.

What is a small-ball C? I mean the dude is what? 6'10 260bls? That's probably Dwight's measurements but Vernon doesn't have the athleticism of Dwight. He does have sick offensive moves though.

But yeah.. someone who put up stats in the ACC with his measurables is talked in the 16-25 range is baffling. Well the league now is into the flashy wing guys

[basketballRob]

This draft seems deep because a guy like Vernon Carey who averaged 29 pts 14 rebs per 40 mpg gets no acknowledgement at all. He could be a perfect small ball center.

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More like most nba front offices finally wisened up to not drafting Bigs in the top of the draft unless they are generational talent.

What is a small-ball C? I mean the dude is what? 6'10 260bls? That's probably Dwight's measurements but Vernon doesn't have the athleticism of Dwight. He does have sick offensive moves though.

But yeah.. someone who put up stats in the ACC with his measurables is talked in the 16-25 range is baffling. Well the league now is into the flashy wing guys

Well he's 260 but could easily guard power forwards on the perimeter. He's coordinated and carries his weight well. His father was a pro football player that was up to 360. So the 260 is probably like a low weight for his body.

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[RookieStar]

Exactly! That is why I don't think he should be called a small-ball C. He is the perfect measurable to be a full-time C in the league. He could also slim down to be more athletic or bulk-up to be DMC lol

[Bensational]

This draft seems deep because a guy like Vernon Carey who averaged 29 pts 14 rebs per 40 mpg gets no acknowledgement at all. He could be a perfect small ball center.

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More like most nba front offices finally wisened up to not drafting Bigs in the top of the draft unless they are generational talent.

What is a small-ball C? I mean the dude is what? 6'10 260bls? That's probably Dwight's measurements but Vernon doesn't have the athleticism of Dwight. He does have sick offensive moves though.

But yeah.. someone who put up stats in the ACC with his measurables is talked in the 16-25 range is baffling. Well the league now is into the flashy wing guys

I hadn't looked into Carey before, just cos we don't really need any more C's, but the dude looks good. Is he really 260? Looks more like 230-40 like Khem Birch. He looks very mobile and fluid with his movements, so even if he doesn't have Dwight's all world hops, he Carey looks to have heaps better footwork. Carey actually reminds me of a cross between Birch and Vuc, but without the passing (yet).

I wouldn't be surprised if Carey becomes a solid starting C in the future or even near future. If we didn't have Bamba I'd say he was worth a look.

[VFX]

More like most nba front offices finally wisened up to not drafting Bigs in the top of the draft unless they are generational talent.

What is a small-ball C? I mean the dude is what? 6'10 260bls? That's probably Dwight's measurements but Vernon doesn't have the athleticism of Dwight. He does have sick offensive moves though.

But yeah.. someone who put up stats in the ACC with his measurables is talked in the 16-25 range is baffling. Well the league now is into the flashy wing guys

I hadn't looked into Carey before, just cos we don't really need any more C's, but the dude looks good. Is he really 260? Looks more like 230-40 like Khem Birch. He looks very mobile and fluid with his movements, so even if he doesn't have Dwight's all world hops, he Carey looks to have heaps better footwork. Carey actually reminds me of a cross between Birch and Vuc, but without the passing (yet).

I wouldn't be surprised if Carey becomes a solid starting C in the future or even near future. If we didn't have Bamba I'd say he was worth a look.

Carey has a legit skill set and can be a force at the next level. Him being projected that low says more about where old school Bigs value lies league wide more so than his flaws. True centers are the easiest and cheapest position to replicate outside of the few exceptions. Multi positional wings and guards? Not so much.
Even if some of those players end up as merely serviceable, they retain value at a rookie contract rate.

[RookieStar]

Yeah Care looks heavy. He is also one of those that is heavier than he looks. I mean look at Zion, in Duke he he looks just 250 for me but in measures he was 280lbs. Carey for me looks 250 so being 260-270 wouldnt surprise me.

[drsd]

What is a small-ball C? I mean the dude is what? 6'10 260bls? That's probably Dwight's measurements but Vernon doesn't have the athleticism of Dwight. He does have sick offensive moves though.

Howard is a short 6'9" in socks. But he does have good length to get to almost average C heights.

When the Magic drafted him, he was projected as a prototype PF from a physicality perspective. Howard's upside was projected as a "Chris Weber" type. (As an aside, Orlando was grooming Darko Miličić to be Howard's Center.)

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[basketballRob]

I think Moussa Cisse in next years draft is more of Howard's size and length. Carey has a 7'1" wingspan, more of like a PF size. Unless they just haven't measured him since early in HS.

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[Skybox]

Jahlil Okafor pt 2...great player, all the tools, can put up big numbers...nobody wants him today. In previous eras, he's a superstar.

[basketballRob]

The new draftnet has Lewis going 11 and us taking Oturu. I like him, just not sure we need another big. He will be 21, with an NBA body.

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[Knightro]

The new draftnet has Lewis going 11 and us taking Oturu. I like him, just not sure we need another big. He will be 21, with an NBA body.

I would be so horrendously disappointed if the Magic took a C with their 1st round pick.

Looking at NBADraft mock, they have Nesmith 16, Maledon 17, Maxey 19.

I'd take any of them over Oturu.

There's just no scenario where a C makes sense. Even if the Magic trade Vucevic, I'd be more than fine riding with a Bamba/Birch combo.

[thelead]

We'll likely draft a SG to play in garbage time behind Evan and Ross.

[basketballRob]

We'll likely draft a SG to play in garbage time behind Evan and Ross.

Ramsey is interesting since he can play some PG and has a 6'10" wingspan. He reminds me a little of Donovan Mitchell. The bad is he's only 18.

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[basketballRob]

The new draftnet has Lewis going 11 and us taking Oturu. I like him, just not sure we need another big. He will be 21, with an NBA body.

I would be so horrendously disappointed if the Magic took a C with their 1st round pick.

Looking at NBADraft mock, they have Nesmith 16, Maledon 17, Maxey 19.

I'd take any of them over Oturu.

There's just no scenario where a C makes sense. Even if the Magic trade Vucevic, I'd be more than fine riding with a Bamba/Birch combo.

I know Ainge is probably praying we don't take Oturu.

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[Knightro]

We'll likely draft a SG to play in garbage time behind Evan and Ross.

And that’s fine, right?

Even if Fournier is opts in, its certainly possible and perhaps even very likely that 20-21 is his final year in Orlando.

Drafting a SG who could be ready to take over as a starter in 21-22 could work out quite nicely from a roster construction standpoint.

[a-French-Fan]

We'll likely draft a SG to play in garbage time behind Evan and Ross.

Joël Ayayi

And you may even not need to draft him. He has a real potential but has not shown it yet in NCAA.

This year:
1st round: Malédon
2d round: Yves Pons or Killian Tillie
Undrafted: Ayayi

Next year: Max deal for Gobert, Fournier stay with a reasonable contract
Trade Vucevic and get Doumbouya (use as much as team and players are needed to succeed that trade)

This team will win NBA Champ in june 2024 and Olympics 2 months later

Ok it seems unreal what I expect for 2021, but you may try to accpet my 2020 idea

[GelbeWand09]

We'll likely draft a SG to play in garbage time behind Evan and Ross.

Joël Ayayi

And you may even not need to draft him. He has a real potential but has not shown it yet in NCAA.

This year:
1st round: Malédon
2d round: Yves Pons or Killian Tillie
Undrafted: Ayayi

Next year: Max deal for Gobert, Fournier stay with a reasonable contract
Trade Vucevic and get Doumbouya (use as much as team and players are needed to succeed that trade)

This team will win NBA Champ in june 2024 and Olympics 2 months later

Ok it seems unreal what I expect for 2021, but you may try to accpet my 2020 idea

You really live up to your name

[VFX]

We'll likely draft a SG to play in garbage time behind Evan and Ross.

And that’s fine, right?

Even if Fournier is opts in, its certainly possible and perhaps even very likely that 20-21 is his final year in Orlando.

Drafting a SG who could be ready to take over as a starter in 21-22 could work out quite nicely from a roster construction standpoint.

SG/SF, and PG should be positions that can actually contribute to real minutes.

DJ (expiring) - 25mpg
Iwundu (replaceable) - 18mpg
Ennis (move to bench) - 23mpg
MCW (maybe) - 18mpg

Those are players that could have their minutes reduced or won’t be here next season contractually. Having a replacement for Evan also helps.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

We'll likely draft a SG to play in garbage time behind Evan and Ross.

And that’s fine, right?

Even if Fournier is opts in, its certainly possible and perhaps even very likely that 20-21 is his final year in Orlando.

Drafting a SG who could be ready to take over as a starter in 21-22 could work out quite nicely from a roster construction standpoint.

SG/SF, and PG should be positions that can actually contribute to real minutes.

DJ (expiring) - 25mpg
Iwundu (replaceable) - 18mpg
Ennis (move to bench) - 23mpg
MCW (maybe) - 18mpg

Those are players that could have their minutes reduced or won’t be here next season contractually. Having a replacement for Evan also helps.

Magic need to get a better backup PG stat. Don’t roll out MCW or Augustine please.

[thelead]

We'll likely draft a SG to play in garbage time behind Evan and Ross.

And that’s fine, right?

Even if Fournier is opts in, its certainly possible and perhaps even very likely that 20-21 is his final year in Orlando.

Drafting a SG who could be ready to take over as a starter in 21-22 could work out quite nicely from a roster construction standpoint.

Fine? I guess. Preferred? No. Every year, teams find big impact rookies after the lotto (not always stars but at least big minute backups)... we just can't do it. Outside of Courtney Lee and Matt Harpring, our non-lotto picks have been trash (respectfully lol).