2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) -LOTTO 8/25 DRAFT 10/15!

Post #681 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 8:41 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Randle/Portis/Elf were just starting to develop. Another wasted season for the Knicks.

add in small things like Wayne Ellington playing over Dotson and Trier...add in Knox looked horrible and his limited minutes. DSJ going in a sh*tter. RJ's struggles playing next to two players that don't compliment or pass him the ball

overall just a wasted opportunity to develop our young core.

Only positive is this atrocious year got Mills fired.

F N 11 · Post #682 » by **F N 11** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 8:46 pm

Guess its prospect watching for the next 5 months wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Da_Mane_Man · Post #683 » by **Da_Mane_Man** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 8:52 pm

mpharris36 wrote:

Read on Twitter

cotdamnit we're picking 7th again

Post #684 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 8:53 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Randle/Portis/Elf were just starting to develop. Another wasted season for the Knicks.

add in small things like Wayne Ellington playing over Dotson and Trier...add in Knox looked horrible and his limited minutes. DSJ going in a sh*tter. RJ's struggles playing next to two players that don't compliment or pass him the ball

overall just a wasted opportunity to develop our young core.

Only positive is this atrocious year got Mills fired.

Yea, we still don't even know exactly what we have with our young players. Hopefully Rose has a much better plan/vision. We seem far away, but if he can just get us in the right direction things could start looking a lot better.

Post #685 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 8:55 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Randle/Portis/Elf were just starting to develop. Another wasted season for the Knicks.

add in small things like Wayne Ellington playing over Dotson and Trier...add in Knox looked horrible and his limited minutes. DSJ going in a sh*tter. RJ's struggles playing next to two players that don't compliment or pass him the ball

overall just a wasted opportunity to develop our young core.

Only positive is this atrocious year got Mills fired.

Yea, we still don't even know exactly what we have with our young players. Hopefully Rose has a much better plan/vision. We seem far away, but if he can just get us in the right direction things could start looking a lot better.

there are so many underlying factors but with this shorten season and with the news that Thibs is a clear favorite and Rose is an agent...I wonder if he plans a legit play it slow rebuild or he will get pressure from Dolan to turn this around and put a respectable product on the floor at the cost of potentially skipping steps.

I know thats a pretty negative outlook but lets says we have been down this road before and we seem to never choose the right path.

robillionaire · Post #686 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 8:56 pm

F N 11 wrote:Guess its prospect watching for the next 5 months wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

just a hair over 2 months until the lottery. I'll just wait until then before worrying any more about this. at least after that we can narrow our options down. we've already beaten every possibility to death at this point

Post #687 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 8:57 pm

Da_Mane_Man wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

Read on Twitter

cotdamnit we're picking 7th again

yeah if the top 7 goes like (in no particular order) - Wiseman, Edwards, Ball, Haliburton, Hayes, and Okungwu

I really wonder what we would do...

Fury · Post #688 » by **Fury** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 8:58 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Da_Mane_Man wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

Read on Twitter

cotdamnit we're picking 7th again

yeah if the top 7 goes like (in no particular order) - Wiseman, Edwards, Ball, Haliburton, Hayes, and Okungwu

I really wonder what we would do...

What we always do, **** ourselves

Post #689 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 8:59 pm

NCAA continues to made decisions that screw kids over.

Read on Twitter

Post #690 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:03 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
add in small things like Wayne Ellington playing over Dotson and Trier...add in Knox looked horrible and his limited minutes. DSJ going in a sh*tter. RJ's struggles playing next to two players that don't compliment or pass him the ball

overall just a wasted opportunity to develop our young core.

Only positive is this atrocious year got Mills fired.

Yea, we still don't even know exactly what we have with our young players. Hopefully Rose has a much better plan/vision. We seem far away, but if he can just get us in the right direction things could start looking a lot better.

there are so many underlying factors but with this shorten season and with the news that Thibs is a clear favorite and Rose is an agent...I wonder if he plans a legit play it slow rebuild or he will get pressure from Dolan to turn this around and put a respectable product on the floor at the cost of potentially skipping steps.

I know thats a pretty negative outlook but lets says we have been down this road before and we seem to never choose the right path.

I would think Rose will at least have a year grace period.....i mean, even Dolan should understand by now it cant be turned around overnight. So next year really needs to be focused on setting things up as best as possible, including development. At least i hope. You never know what the plan or directive is though. Im sure eventually they will go after stars and take some shots

sol537 · Post #691 » by **sol537** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:09 pm

1- Sign Thibs
2- Draft Haliburton, Hayes, or Ball
3- Sign Jerami Grant
4- Make the 2021 NBA Playoffs after a 100 Year Drought

Post #692 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:10 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Yea, we still don't even know exactly what we have with our young players. Hopefully Rose has a much better plan/vision. We seem far away, but if he can just get us in the right direction things could start looking a lot better.

there are so many underlying factors but with this shorten season and with the news that Thibs is a clear favorite and Rose is an agent...I wonder if he plans a legit play it slow rebuild or he will get pressure from Dolan to turn this around and put a respectable product on the floor at the cost of potentially skipping steps.

I know thats a pretty negative outlook but lets says we have been down this road before and we seem to never choose the right path.

I would think Rose will at least have a year grace period.....i mean, even Dolan should understand by now it cant be turned around overnight. So next year really needs to be focused on setting things up as best as possible, including development. At least i hope. You never know what the plan or directive is though. Im sure eventually they will go after stars and take some shots

that will be the logical approach but I have my doubts until proven otherwise.

robillionaire · Post #693 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:10 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Da_Mane_Man wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

Read on Twitter

cotdamnit we're picking 7th again

yeah if the top 7 goes like (in no particular order) - Wiseman, Edwards, Ball, Haliburton, Hayes, and Okungwu

I really wonder what we would do...

you only listed a top 6. but I guess you'd be choosing between avdija, toppin, okoro, cole, perhaps hampton or maxey

Post #694 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:11 pm

robillionaire wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Da_Mane_Man wrote:
cotdamnit we're picking 7th again

yeah if the top 7 goes like (in no particular order) - Wiseman, Edwards, Ball, Haliburton, Hayes, and Okungwu

I really wonder what we would do...

you only listed a top 6. but I guess you'd be choosing between avdija, toppin, okoro, cole

correct because if we are picking 7th only 6 guys would go in front of us.

robillionaire · Post #695 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:12 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
yeah if the top 7 goes like (in no particular order) - Wiseman, Edwards, Ball, Haliburton, Hayes, and Okungwu

I really wonder what we would do...

you only listed a top 6. but I guess you'd be choosing between avdija, toppin, okoro, cole

correct because if we are picking 7th only 6 guys would go in front of us.

okay, makes sense then. We will be lucky to even get 7th :-?

robillionaire · Post #696 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:14 pm

if we get 7th 8th 9th or 10th and can't trade up you better get your cole slaw ready

HEZI · Post #697 » by **HEZI** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:14 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Yea, we still don't even know exactly what we have with our young players. Hopefully Rose has a much better plan/vision. We seem far away, but if he can just get us in the right direction things could start looking a lot better.

there are so many underlying factors but with this shorten season and with the news that Thibs is a clear favorite and Rose is an agent...I wonder if he plans a legit play it slow rebuild or he will get pressure from Dolan to turn this around and put a respectable product on the floor at the cost of potentially skipping steps.

I know thats a pretty negative outlook but lets says we have been down this road before and we seem to never choose the right path.

I would think Rose will at least have a year grace period.....i mean, even Dolan should understand by now it cant be turned around overnight. So next year really needs to be focused on setting things up as best as possible, including development. At least i hope. You never know what the plan or directive is though. Im sure eventually they will go after stars and take some shots

The stars went to Brooklyn. Not hard to imagine Dolan being furious about that. Rose is here to get star players, I think that much is clear. Didn't he give the green light to Perry to continue working the DLo trade as soon as he arrived and even told Perry to include a first round pick? Obviously the Warriors declined the offer but I think it's safe to assume we aren't going to take the slow and steady approach.

It's funny that there was a recent report about Brooklyn inquiring about Bradley Beal, oof. If Beal was available I'm putting money on Rose being on it.

3toheadmelo · Post #698 » by **3toheadmelo** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:15 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Da_Mane_Man wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

Read on Twitter

cotdamnit we're picking 7th again

yeah if the top 7 goes like (in no particular order) - Wiseman, Edwards, Ball, Haliburton, Hayes, and Okungwu

I really wonder what we would do...

Take Obi Toppin or Kira Lewis

Post #699 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:15 pm

robillionaire wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
you only listed a top 6. but I guess you'd be choosing between avdija, toppin, okoro, cole

correct because if we are picking 7th only 6 guys would go in front of us.

okay, makes sense then. We will be lucky to even get 7th

there like a 1/4 chanc of us picking below 7 so I think its a safe bet...but regardless 7 or 8...and if thats is the group that is left over you will have a ton of diversity and a tough call to make.

all offense no defense and age factor in toppin
okoro might be best defensive player in the draft but still has a lot of room to go offensively
avdija (do we really think we would pick him)? the backlash would be crazy especially since he isn't a guard
Cole - probably the safest pick for Rose to make considering the avg fan will be happy but has major flaws.

I guess Kira Lewis could be in play as well

robillionaire · Post #700 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:20 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
correct because if we are picking 7th only 6 guys would go in front of us.

okay, makes sense then. We will be lucky to even get 7th

there like a 1/4 chanc of us picking below 7 so I think its a safe bet...

First day as a knicks fan? :lol: