OT: Cops kill George Floyd

[god shammgod]

it doesn't matter if he had formerly murdered someone and did time for that. in this instance, he used a fake 20 dollar bill to buy cigarettes. that's it. that's the crime. not anything he did in the past. the cops who arrested him don't get to carry out sentence on that. and i'm pretty sure no matter what his criminal record was the sentence wouldn't be death. we have a legal system, he gets his day in court. or should have. even if they say he was resisting, again, the sentence on that doesn't get to be doled out by the arresting officer. so even if you think he's a so called "bad guy", it doesn't matter. a court decides his punishment.

somebody had to go and say something to get me involved in this thread, and i've been here long enough to know better.

[Pointgod]

Hmmm, appears that our "hero" was not exactly a model citizen.

According to Daily Mail (UK), the court report mentions that the victim identified George, tallest of all the robbers, who pressed a pistol to her stomach and forced his way into the house. George Floyd’s height was 6 foot 6 inches.

‘THIS LARGE SUSPECT THEN PROCEEDED TO SEARCH THE RESIDENCE WHILE ANOTHER ARMED SUSPECT GUARDED THE COMPLAINANT, WHO WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD AND SIDES BY THIS SECOND ARMED SUSPECT WITH HIS PISTOL WHILE SHE SCREAMED FOR HELP.’

Hennepin County medical examiners released the toxicology report on June 2nd, 2020 which stated that George Floyd was indeed intoxicated with Fentanyl, Methamphetamine, and traces of cannabinoids and morphine at the time of his death.

George Floyd Baggie: Cocaine Arrests
George was also linked to two convictions in the 1990s for possession and theft of a controlled substance (cocaine). However, it is not clear whether or not Floyd served his time in prison for this felony.

George was accused of a firearm robbery in August 1998 for which he served 10 months at Harris County Jail. In April 2002, Floyd was condemned to 30 days of prison for trespassing private property.

George Floyd was involved in two more cocaine offenses, in October 2002 and in 2004, for which he did eight-months and ten-months sentence in prison respectively.

Another cocaine possession conviction in Dec 2005, Floyd was arrested for having cocaine on him and served 10 months in state jail.

After a few months, Floyd’s charge was upgraded, amending the cocaine amount he possessed to be about 4 grams.

Wow such a garbage post. Take a look in the mirror and really reflect on how broken you are as a person needs to justify a state sanctioned murder.

[ny-n-md]

Hmmm, appears that our "hero" was not exactly a model citizen.

According to Daily Mail (UK), the court report mentions that the victim identified George, tallest of all the robbers, who pressed a pistol to her stomach and forced his way into the house. George Floyd’s height was 6 foot 6 inches.

‘THIS LARGE SUSPECT THEN PROCEEDED TO SEARCH THE RESIDENCE WHILE ANOTHER ARMED SUSPECT GUARDED THE COMPLAINANT, WHO WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD AND SIDES BY THIS SECOND ARMED SUSPECT WITH HIS PISTOL WHILE SHE SCREAMED FOR HELP.’

Hennepin County medical examiners released the toxicology report on June 2nd, 2020 which stated that George Floyd was indeed intoxicated with Fentanyl, Methamphetamine, and traces of cannabinoids and morphine at the time of his death.

George Floyd Baggie: Cocaine Arrests
George was also linked to two convictions in the 1990s for possession and theft of a controlled substance (cocaine). However, it is not clear whether or not Floyd served his time in prison for this felony.

George was accused of a firearm robbery in August 1998 for which he served 10 months at Harris County Jail. In April 2002, Floyd was condemned to 30 days of prison for trespassing private property.

George Floyd was involved in two more cocaine offenses, in October 2002 and in 2004, for which he did eight-months and ten-months sentence in prison respectively.

Another cocaine possession conviction in Dec 2005, Floyd was arrested for having cocaine on him and served 10 months in state jail.

After a few months, Floyd’s charge was upgraded, amending the cocaine amount he possessed to be about 4 grams.

Wow such a garbage post. Take a look in the mirror and really reflect on how broken you are as a person needs to justify a state sanctioned murder.

I’m so sick of the victim blaming and victim shaming. It’s a disgusting attempt to dehumanize the victim and easily write them off as having deserved it for one thing or another. Shame on people for using this egregious tactic.

[HarthorneWingo]

If we would use their pension fund to settle the police brutality lawsuits, we’d see a drastic decrease in the abuse.

Having defended those lawsuits on behalf of the City of Philadelphia, I can tell you that we'd get these horrific lawsuits, settle the case, and then we'd fire the officer only to have the labor arbitrator send them back to work. Very frustrating. Which is why we need to rid ourselves of the police unions. Do you know that why union membership in unions, generally, across the country is down, police unions and their memberships are way up.

so we gotta gut the police unions right? I guess we just audit them to death?

There is a move now to defund the police departments, which is a great start. Some want to eliminate them. I certainly believe we can reform them. Like I've discussed in prior posts, 50% of all police calls were for traffic-related incidents. Do we really need an armed military response for those at salaries (here on Long Island) of well over $100,000.00?

They get audited for overtime all the time. Then they engage in a slow down on orders from their union bosses, etc. I saw these police, fire, prisons, streets department negotiations with the City every few years. I was in the Labor Division for a couple/few years where I was part of the team that helped prepare outside counsel with litigation assistance.

We just have to enact a law(s) which redefine their legal status for collective bargaining purposes and it'll go up to the Supreme Court as a First Amendment rights case.

[Phish Tank]

Having defended those lawsuits on behalf of the City of Philadelphia, I can tell you that we'd get these horrific lawsuits, settle the case, and then we'd fire the officer only to have the labor arbitrator send them back to work. Very frustrating. Which is why we need to rid ourselves of the police unions. Do you know that why union membership in unions, generally, across the country is down, police unions and their memberships are way up.

so we gotta gut the police unions right? I guess we just audit them to death?

There is a move now to defund the police departments, which is a great start. Some want to eliminate them. I certainly believe we can reform them. Like I've discussed in prior posts, 50% of all police calls were for traffic-related incidents. Do we really need an armed military response for those at salaries (here on Long Island) of well over $100,000.00?

They get audited for overtime all the time. Then they engage in a slow down on orders from their union bosses, etc. I saw these police, fire, prisons, streets department negotiations with the City every few years. I was in the Labor Division for a couple/few years where I was part of the team that helped prepare outside counsel with litigation assistance.

We just have to enact a law(s) which redefine their legal status for collective bargaining purposes and it'll go up to the Supreme Court as a First Amendment rights case.

I was thinking more like tax audits.... income tax, property tax, all of those......

But my ideas are this:

1) change their legal status
2) remove qualified immunity
3) make police training a lot longer - with at least 1 year or so of social work in any community. Mental health tests.... yearly evaluations, the equivalent of CLEs every year. But instead of - let's say a bunch of cops - evaluating them, the evaluation board will be public stakeholders.
4) Require every officer/department to get liability insurance
5) Insurance pay outs any settlements from lawsuits

This is in ADDITION to every other proposal already in the pipeline.

[KnicksGadfly]

Hmmm, appears that our "hero" was not exactly a model citizen.

According to Daily Mail (UK), the court report mentions that the victim identified George, tallest of all the robbers, who pressed a pistol to her stomach and forced his way into the house. George Floyd’s height was 6 foot 6 inches.

‘THIS LARGE SUSPECT THEN PROCEEDED TO SEARCH THE RESIDENCE WHILE ANOTHER ARMED SUSPECT GUARDED THE COMPLAINANT, WHO WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD AND SIDES BY THIS SECOND ARMED SUSPECT WITH HIS PISTOL WHILE SHE SCREAMED FOR HELP.’

Hennepin County medical examiners released the toxicology report on June 2nd, 2020 which stated that George Floyd was indeed intoxicated with Fentanyl, Methamphetamine, and traces of cannabinoids and morphine at the time of his death.

George Floyd Baggie: Cocaine Arrests
George was also linked to two convictions in the 1990s for possession and theft of a controlled substance (cocaine). However, it is not clear whether or not Floyd served his time in prison for this felony.

George was accused of a firearm robbery in August 1998 for which he served 10 months at Harris County Jail. In April 2002, Floyd was condemned to 30 days of prison for trespassing private property.

George Floyd was involved in two more cocaine offenses, in October 2002 and in 2004, for which he did eight-months and ten-months sentence in prison respectively.

Another cocaine possession conviction in Dec 2005, Floyd was arrested for having cocaine on him and served 10 months in state jail.

After a few months, Floyd’s charge was upgraded, amending the cocaine amount he possessed to be about 4 grams.

I'm glad you think justice was served.

Did you look up the saintly background of Floyd's killer?

[Capn'O]

it doesn't matter if he had formerly murdered someone and did time for that. in this instance, he used a fake 20 dollar bill to buy cigarettes. that's it. that's the crime. not anything he did in the past. the cops who arrested him don't get to carry out sentence on that. and i'm pretty sure no matter what his criminal record was the sentence wouldn't be death. we have a legal system, he gets his day in court. or should have. even if they say he was resisting, again, the sentence on that doesn't get to be doled out by the arresting officer. so even if you think he's a so called "bad guy", it doesn't matter. a court decides his punishment.

somebody had to go and say something to get me involved in this thread, and i've been here long enough to know better.

Yup. And if he had been tased or otherwise subdued, thrown in the car, and charged there would be literally no outcry.

[HarthorneWingo]

so we gotta gut the police unions right? I guess we just audit them to death?

There is a move now to defund the police departments, which is a great start. Some want to eliminate them. I certainly believe we can reform them. Like I've discussed in prior posts, 50% of all police calls were for traffic-related incidents. Do we really need an armed military response for those at salaries (here on Long Island) of well over $100,000.00?

They get audited for overtime all the time. Then they engage in a slow down on orders from their union bosses, etc. I saw these police, fire, prisons, streets department negotiations with the City every few years. I was in the Labor Division for a couple/few years where I was part of the team that helped prepare outside counsel with litigation assistance.

We just have to enact a law(s) which redefine their legal status for collective bargaining purposes and it'll go up to the Supreme Court as a First Amendment rights case.

I was thinking more like tax audits.... income tax, property tax, all of those......

But my ideas are this:

1) change their legal status
2) remove qualified immunity
3) make police training a lot longer - with at least 1 year or so of social work in any community. Mental health tests.... yearly evaluations, the equivalent of CLEs every year. But instead of - let's say a bunch of cops - evaluating them, the evaluation board will be public stakeholders.
4) Require every officer/department to get liability insurance
5) Insurance pay outs any settlements from lawsuits

This is in ADDITION to every other proposal already in the pipeline.

It's the accountability part. On the employment side, the union and the arbitrators get them back on the job. Then, on the criminal end, the DA's office works with these officers day in and day out. They're going to look the other way, if possible. If you sue them, the township/city indemnifies them. For punitive damages too! So, what's to deter the officer from engaging in misconduct/crimes?

[HarthorneWingo]

it doesn't matter if he had formerly murdered someone and did time for that. in this instance, he used a fake 20 dollar bill to buy cigarettes. that's it. that's the crime. not anything he did in the past. the cops who arrested him don't get to carry out sentence on that. and i'm pretty sure no matter what his criminal record was the sentence wouldn't be death. we have a legal system, he gets his day in court. or should have. even if they say he was resisting, again, the sentence on that doesn't get to be doled out by the arresting officer. so even if you think he's a so called "bad guy", it doesn't matter. a court decides his punishment.

somebody had to go and say something to get me involved in this thread, and i've been here long enough to know better.

Yup. And if he had been tased or otherwise subdued, thrown in the car, and charged there would be literally no outcry.

He could've been Tasered and died as a result because of the other medications/drugs he had in his system. I'm not an expert in Tasers, but I've seen enough lawsuits and read enough articles to know that it is not the panacea that many in law enforcement and government thought it would be.

How about the cops just issuing Floyd a citation to appear in "community court" and maybe try and de-escalate the situation? Everybody's always weaponing the police over stupid shyt that the police are not trained to do. The guy got taken for $20? LOL, oh, so what makes him special? I guess he never got taken in a drug deal? There are just certain "costs of doing business" in life. One day you lose you wallet with $100 in it. Three days later you find it in your driveway with everything but the $100 in it. Oh well. You can either move on and forget about it or call the fcking cops to help you solve this crime.

The store owner has even gone public saying that he wised that he had never called the police over this incident and vowed never to call them again for something so trivial.

[HarthorneWingo]

A riot is the language of the unheard

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[Fat Kat]

A riot is the language of the unheard

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[thebuzzardman]

Well done

I'm a racist because I advocate a unified, peaceful response

I'm "WHITEY"

Bravo

nobody even said that. your fragility is showing.

go re-watch the entire 51 minute jane elliott blue eye brown eye experiment on youtube take a deep breath and come back

He's not being "fragile". Don't bring in bogus modern day loaded twitter-justice words.

He's having an opinion on what he feels the outcome on the part of middle of the road whites would be to TOO MUCH rioting (not protesting) based, not on "who is allowed to do what on my say so/opinion" because of his ethnicity, but based on his opinion of how those middle class whites will react based on on informed opinion of reading about, being around those kinds of people and people who's nature is worse.

Pretty sure his stance is similar to mine, but not the same. People can take whatever approach they want in the protests, based on the events in their life that got them there, and the complete and total righteousness of the cause.

Basically every poster in this thread is in massive total agreement on that.

But back to how those middle of the road whites in mid America will react:

The way those middle of the road whites will start to react, more and more, is to decide to pull the lever for Trump.
And could very well be the difference between Trump getting re-elected or not.
Because LOTS of those middle of the road whites live in those middle of countryish states that are more than middling in their electoral college vote impact on the election.

Oh, and anyone who has any set of opinions that lead them to "well, these actions supersede if Trump gets elected or not", can have that opinion too, all day long.

*not implying any stance on the protests/riots implies caring/not caring if Trump is re-elected. Just that if someone wants to feel that way, that's their right*


This, on my part, ISN'T A LECTURE on what PEOPLE CAN OR CAN'T DO, based on, well anything.
It's an opinion.
I think it's based on a pretty solid understanding of the situation and these people, knowing a BUNCH of them (courtesy of that white neighborhood blue color NYC upbringing and time in the army and still having old white relatives still alive)

I'm with the protestors
I "get" some of the rioting, conceptually, in what it might bring
It doesn't take too much rioting (yes, enough perpetrated by outsiders, doesn't matter) past day one of the protests to start driving people to a Trump vote.

People can support your entire opinion and cause and disagree with a piece and have an opinion of it and be an ally, hopefully without being painted a certain way to completely dismiss them.

You could argue that Clyde, and then, I guess, me, are showing too much concern about how this can play with middle fence votes re Trump and what's happening now supersedes those considerations, without resorting to takedowns.

Maybe we ARE too concerned with four more years of Trump. Let's roll those dice. It shouldn't be so bad if he gets back in...

[thebuzzardman]

Guy in Buffalo is critical? Damn.

It’s been reported that there was a reverse angle video clip of Leah saw where you can actually hear the third of the victims skull hit the pavement. I sure hope he survives and recovers fully but if he doesn’t, we are talking voluntary manslaughter to murder three

I posted it several pages back and yeah that’s what happens. It’s so loud that even the cops on the opposite end stop for a second. Definitely not fake

Alex Jones hasn't called him a crisis actor yet? Which, I think would mean the cops are crisis actors too...

[thebuzzardman]

Hmmm, appears that our "hero" was not exactly a model citizen.

According to Daily Mail (UK), the court report mentions that the victim identified George, tallest of all the robbers, who pressed a pistol to her stomach and forced his way into the house. George Floyd’s height was 6 foot 6 inches.

‘THIS LARGE SUSPECT THEN PROCEEDED TO SEARCH THE RESIDENCE WHILE ANOTHER ARMED SUSPECT GUARDED THE COMPLAINANT, WHO WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD AND SIDES BY THIS SECOND ARMED SUSPECT WITH HIS PISTOL WHILE SHE SCREAMED FOR HELP.’

Hennepin County medical examiners released the toxicology report on June 2nd, 2020 which stated that George Floyd was indeed intoxicated with Fentanyl, Methamphetamine, and traces of cannabinoids and morphine at the time of his death.

George Floyd Baggie: Cocaine Arrests
George was also linked to two convictions in the 1990s for possession and theft of a controlled substance (cocaine). However, it is not clear whether or not Floyd served his time in prison for this felony.

George was accused of a firearm robbery in August 1998 for which he served 10 months at Harris County Jail. In April 2002, Floyd was condemned to 30 days of prison for trespassing private property.

George Floyd was involved in two more cocaine offenses, in October 2002 and in 2004, for which he did eight-months and ten-months sentence in prison respectively.

Another cocaine possession conviction in Dec 2005, Floyd was arrested for having cocaine on him and served 10 months in state jail.

After a few months, Floyd’s charge was upgraded, amending the cocaine amount he possessed to be about 4 grams.

Doc im disappointed in this post by you...

you ever get addicted to drugs?

Yes, I was "minimally addicted" back in the 60's. I attended the original "Woodstock" in 1969 and it was pretty hard to avoid the stuff back then. A year or so later I quit all of them, including organic mescaline, dubbed the best 8 hour stomach ache you could ever have, which had been my favorite. So since the early seventies I'm clean. Don't drink, don't smoke, exercise every day and hope to live till 111.

Thanks for confessing. We'll be sending the riot police to take you in for your former crimes against humanity, partaking in the drugs and drug culture that tore America apart in the 1960's. Surely, just as George Floyds heinous drug crimes made him a legitimate target for death, you won't mind heading to the chair for your similar crimes. Thank you for being of the solution.

[Fat Kat]

It’s been reported that there was a reverse angle video clip of Leah saw where you can actually hear the third of the victims skull hit the pavement. I sure hope he survives and recovers fully but if he doesn’t, we are talking voluntary manslaughter to murder three

I posted it several pages back and yeah that’s what happens. It’s so loud that even the cops on the opposite end stop for a second. Definitely not fake

Alex Jones hasn't called him a crisis actor yet? Which, I think would mean the cops are crisis actors too...

It’s gaining steam Buzz.

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[Fat Kat]

Read on Twitter

[thebuzzardman]

I posted it several pages back and yeah that’s what happens. It’s so loud that even the cops on the opposite end stop for a second. Definitely not fake

Alex Jones hasn't called him a crisis actor yet? Which, I think would mean the cops are crisis actors too...

It’s gaining steam Buzz.

Read on Twitter

Jesus

[Fat Kat]

Read on Twitter

I guess the curfew isn’t equally enforced

[Fat Kat]

Read on Twitter

[Sedale Threatt]

Doc im disappointed in this post by you...

you ever get addicted to drugs?

Yes, I was "minimally addicted" back in the 60's. I attended the original "Woodstock" in 1969 and it was pretty hard to avoid the stuff back then. A year or so later I quit all of them, including organic mescaline, dubbed the best 8 hour stomach ache you could ever have, which had been my favorite. So since the early seventies I'm clean. Don't drink, don't smoke, exercise every day and hope to live till 111.

Thanks for confessing. We'll be sending the riot police to take you in for your former crimes against humanity, partaking in the drugs and drug culture that tore America apart in the 1960's. Surely, just as George Floyds heinous drug crimes made him a legitimate target for death, you won't mind heading to the chair for your similar crimes. Thank you for being of the solution.

Well played. Except, if we’re being impartial and fair (lol, I know, but bear with me) we should probably skip all that and go straight to summary execution: