OT: Cops kill George Floyd

[Fat Kat]

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[Capn'O]

Well damn.

So... maybe the people in the streets should keep doing what they're doing.

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[E-Balla]

Well damn.

So... maybe the people in the streets should keep doing what they're doing.

Violence doesn't accomplish anything tho. Right?

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[Clyde_Style]

Prove that. Historically. I know my history, do you? Name one thing gained without violence. One right given in America that wasn't fought for.

Who the hell cares about violence against clumps of earth built into 4 walls and a roof?


Anyone else black in this thread:

Does it cut it for me to say Clyde doesn't get it because he's a bystander? Because I feel like it does I wanna by sure I'm not tripping first though.


We've been ruled by Trumps for 400 years with no constitutional constraints. Trumps created the constitution. **** the constitution. **** the vote. Never once in my lineage has anyone gained a right from the power of voting. Never once in my lineage have I gained a right that wasn't fought for. Violence is necessary when words fall of deaf ears and I'm not dumb enough to look at the history of violence and it's accomplishments and say "that's not the way the way is to do what we've done every time we've lost."

I know my enemy, that kumbaya **** sounds good until you use those brain cells. We're a kidnapped people being told by our captors how we should behave in their system that was specifically built in order to remove our power and agency as a people. The one people in America that are Americans without someone in their family lineage or them personally deciding to be an American is us. I'll ride for my people all day every day but **** that unity nonsense it's only been used to take take take.

What's this dog whistling Clyde in the thread crap?

You're as racist as anyone then.

I'm trying my best to deal with your hate, but you're so full of rage that you just want to burn everything down.

So you're right, we're not on the same side.

If you think it's racist I'm not taking perspectives of how to fight white supremacy from the very people that benefit from it that's on you. I call it not being dumb.

So now you're saying since I'm a white man I'm automatically working from the playbook of your oppressors. Nah, that's not racist AF. If that's your version of being smart then you do you.

[god shammgod]

there hasn't even been much violence since the 1st couple days. outside of a wendys. and i have a feeling dave or whatever his name was is gonna be ok. dave is probably not even alive now that i think about it. he was old in the 80's. it's probably some conglomerate now that owns wendys that also own sbarros and red robin or some sh*t.

[robillionaire]

there hasn't even been much violence since the 1st couple days. outside of a wendys. and i have a feeling dave or whatever his name was is gonna be ok. dave is probably not even alive now that i think about. he was old in the 80's. it's probably some conglomerate now that owns wendys that also own sbarros and red robin or some sh*t.

Dave Thomas died a long time ago. My first job was at a Wendy’s and it sucked. Let it burn

[Capn'O]

Well damn.

So... maybe the people in the streets should keep doing what they're doing.

Violence doesn't accomplish anything tho. Right?

I believe that the wise and venerated Matthew Barnes once spoke on this matter. I shall defer to his judgment.

[E-Balla]

What's this dog whistling Clyde in the thread crap?

You're as racist as anyone then.

I'm trying my best to deal with your hate, but you're so full of rage that you just want to burn everything down.

So you're right, we're not on the same side.

If you think it's racist I'm not taking perspectives of how to fight white supremacy from the very people that benefit from it that's on you. I call it not being dumb.

So now you're saying since I'm a white man I'm automatically working from the playbook of your oppressors. Nah, that's not racist AF. If that's your version of being smart then you do you.

No if you weren't writing lines about civility and white washing the violence of the Civil Rights movement and the progress that made for our rights I'd never say that.

Plenty of white posters here have said things I value even if I don't agree with them. Only YOU have stood on this hill that violence accomplishes nothing and I'm know my history enough to know that's a lie straight from my conditioning in this white supremacist society that likes me docile.

No one is saying you know you're doing it, most don't, but through your rhetoric and actions best believe you are working for my oppressors the question is do you want to acknowledge that or will you rather shutdown when faced with facts you don't like. Do you want to be a part of the solution or continue to be the problem?

[Clyde_Style]

If you think it's racist I'm not taking perspectives of how to fight white supremacy from the very people that benefit from it that's on you. I call it not being dumb.

So now you're saying since I'm a white man I'm automatically working from the playbook of your oppressors. Nah, that's not racist AF. If that's your version of being smart then you do you.

No if you weren't writing lines about civility and white washing the violence of the Civil Rights movement and the progress that made for our rights I'd never say that.

Plenty of white posters here have said things I value even if I don't agree with them. Only YOU have stood on this hill that violence accomplishes nothing and I'm know my history enough to know that's a lie straight from my conditioning in this white supremacist society that likes me docile.

No one is saying you know you're doing it, most don't, but through your rhetoric and actions best believe you are working for my oppressors the question is do you want to acknowledge that or will you rather shutdown when faced with facts you don't like. Do you want to be a part of the solution or continue to be the problem?

You took a giant steaming dump on organizing to get out the vote and you have the stones to ask me if I want to be part of the solution or continue to be the problem. FOH

[E-Balla]

there hasn't even been much violence since the 1st couple days. outside of a wendys. and i have a feeling dave or whatever his name was is gonna be ok. dave is probably not even alive now that i think about it. he was old in the 80's. it's probably some conglomerate now that owns wendys that also own sbarros and red robin or some sh*t.

There's less violence now but you're acting like they didn't burn down that Wendy's Saturday. There's not much violence now other than them burning down a store over the weekend is oxymoronic.

And his daughter owns it, it's not necessarily about hurting any particular business person it's to show the government you're mad and not standing for the current conditions of society. Basically if society is broken in this field (policing) **** these other parts of society until you fix the issue.

[E-Balla]

So now you're saying since I'm a white man I'm automatically working from the playbook of your oppressors. Nah, that's not racist AF. If that's your version of being smart then you do you.

No if you weren't writing lines about civility and white washing the violence of the Civil Rights movement and the progress that made for our rights I'd never say that.

Plenty of white posters here have said things I value even if I don't agree with them. Only YOU have stood on this hill that violence accomplishes nothing and I'm know my history enough to know that's a lie straight from my conditioning in this white supremacist society that likes me docile.

No one is saying you know you're doing it, most don't, but through your rhetoric and actions best believe you are working for my oppressors the question is do you want to acknowledge that or will you rather shutdown when faced with facts you don't like. Do you want to be a part of the solution or continue to be the problem?

You just took a giant steaming dump on organizing to get out the vote and you have the stones to ask me if I want to be part of the solution or continue to be the problem. FOH

Again, lies and no support for anything your fingers type. Why must you always make a habit out of strawmanning nuanced arguments? Like is it that hard to reflect for you?

[E-Balla]

Wanna get mad about what I said about voting while at the same time blaming black people and what you claim is their lack of voting for their current conditions but you wanna tell me I'm racist for saying your ideals are straight out the white supremacy handbook? Alright.

[Fat Kat]

Well damn.

So... maybe the people in the streets should keep doing what they're doing.

Violence doesn't accomplish anything tho. Right?

This country was founded on genocide, built on the backs of slaves and has constantly been embroiled in one war or another for decades. Beware of violent people telling YOU to be non-violent. Beware of people killing you, telling you to be peaceful. Beware of violent folks attempting to rewrite history, painting all successful movements as non-violent. It’s bullchit. There’s no nobility in being toothless, just impotence.

[god shammgod]

there hasn't even been much violence since the 1st couple days. outside of a wendys. and i have a feeling dave or whatever his name was is gonna be ok. dave is probably not even alive now that i think about it. he was old in the 80's. it's probably some conglomerate now that owns wendys that also own sbarros and red robin or some sh*t.

There's less violence now but you're acting like they didn't burn down that Wendy's Saturday. There's not much violence now other than them burning down a store over the weekend is oxymoronic.

And his daughter owns it, it's not necessarily about hurting any particular business person it's to show the government you're mad and not standing for the current conditions of society. Basically if society is broken in this field (policing) **** these other parts of society until you fix the issue.

i'm just saying, it's not happening enough to be in a fit about it swaying the election. clyde is totally obsessed with trump and he worries about anything that might sway swing voters. that's his main concern. but he has to understand, we had a black democratic president and unarmed black men were still getting killed by police on his watch. it was happening in the bluest of blue states. voting is not this panacea that will solve all racial injustice. as i think is your point.

[god shammgod]

also, so wendys is now owned by wendy ? or was that not a real person ?

[Clyde_Style]

No if you weren't writing lines about civility and white washing the violence of the Civil Rights movement and the progress that made for our rights I'd never say that.

Plenty of white posters here have said things I value even if I don't agree with them. Only YOU have stood on this hill that violence accomplishes nothing and I'm know my history enough to know that's a lie straight from my conditioning in this white supremacist society that likes me docile.

No one is saying you know you're doing it, most don't, but through your rhetoric and actions best believe you are working for my oppressors the question is do you want to acknowledge that or will you rather shutdown when faced with facts you don't like. Do you want to be a part of the solution or continue to be the problem?

You just took a giant steaming dump on organizing to get out the vote and you have the stones to ask me if I want to be part of the solution or continue to be the problem. FOH

Again, lies and no support for anything your fingers type. Why must you always make a habit out of strawmanning nuanced arguments? Like is it that hard to reflect for you?

Don't try to blame me for falsifying what was said by you.

This quote is from your post:

We've been ruled by Trumps for 400 years with no constitutional constraints. Trumps created the constitution. **** the constitution. **** the vote. Never once in my lineage has anyone gained a right from the power of voting. Never once in my lineage have I gained a right that wasn't fought for. Violence is necessary when words fall of deaf ears and I'm not dumb enough to look at the history of violence and it's accomplishments and say "that's not the way the way is to do what we've done every time we've lost."

[E-Balla]

Well damn.

So... maybe the people in the streets should keep doing what they're doing.

Violence doesn't accomplish anything tho. Right?

This country was founded on genocide, built on the backs of slaves and has constantly been embroiled in one war or another for decades. Beware of violent people telling YOU to be non-violent. Beware of people killing you, telling you to be peaceful. Beware of violent folks attempting to rewrite history, painting all successful movements as non-violent. It’s bullchit. There’s no nobility in being toothless, just impotence.

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The man in this video and been in office for decades. What did my people voting him into office do for George Floyd? I'm sure he's done plenty good for America but what about us as a people? How can you help people through a system designed and operated to ensure their destruction.

[Capn'O]

also, so wendys is now owned by wendy ? or was that not a real person ?

Sir, this is a Wendy's restaurant.