Woj: Some Players getting cold feet about playing in Orlando

[lakers2020]

Let's keep it 100. They aren't scared of COVID.

They're concerned with not being able to get pussy and weed while stuck inside Disney World for 2 months.

I bet Harden's first question was whether or not Disney World has a strip club.

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This...

None of the players are scared of Covid, it's a nothingburger for young people who are not morbidly obese...

COVID attacks the lungs. Lungs are kinda important to an athlete’s future. COVID is also causing blood clot issues. For any athlete using his brain it’s not a nothing burger, it’s risk vs reward and there are real risks and for some not much reward.

The median age of COVID deaths is >80.

Look at all the people shoulder to shoulder protesting in the streets.

Everybody by now realizes, that for YOUNG HEALTHY people, social distancing is a hoax and COVID ain't sheet.

[Duke4life831]

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Haha wasn't it Woj that did the article a couple days ago calling Kyrie "The Disruptor"? Quite the backpedal by Woj on this one it looks like haha.

[Middle Child]

Why does Social justice reform mean the players can’t play basketball?

Players will be out of their communities, away from
The very people they are trying to help.

They’ll be locked in Orlando for a month(s) playing somewhat meaningless basketball.

[Spens1]

Don't neccesarily blame them with well over 100k cases in the U.S and the fact that a lot of these players probably have parents and grandparents that are older and don't want to potentially risk them catching it if they come into contact with them (then again they're going to be in disneyworld for the rest of the season).

If even one person tests positive again, i'd have to imagine they'll shut it down again. You can't force players to play, then again if they choose to sit out, the teams don't really have to pay them in terms of performing (at least that portion of their salary).

If this is about reform, I mean i would have thought being on tv and then having post match interviews and courtside interviews etc would give players the platform to speak their minds, honestly, if a player gets a fine over any political statements (and the nba totally would), then the players should band together to pay it, use the platform of having national and international media paying attention to you to make statements that people will listen to and statements that cannot be ignored. If you have the likes of Kyrie, CP3, Durant, Lebron etc in interviews speaking out every night, you think the media wouldn't lap that up, that will get people talking as well.

My issue is that sure, the initial impact of not playing may be significant, but after that, the general, non basketball following public, will forget about basketball and its players altogether like it is now.

Also if someone does test positive, i'm going to go out and predict a lockout and the players association putting breaks not just on this season, but on the next one and force the NBA to the table and if this goes badly, Silver could be out of a job. Best case scenario is just bringing the players who want to come back, well, back and the ones who stay home can stay home without too much reprecussions (i.e. they don't get paid for the rest of the season but other then that, all good, see you next season).

[mccluskey]

if you're a professional basketball player who doesn't want to have a chance to play the game you supposedly love and compete for a title - like you're paid millions to do - then fine. Sit out but don't expect the money to come in for you.

meanwhile grocery store clerks have been working for minimum wage out here since the damn virus started, and the statistics show almost nobody under 40 who's in good health is at serious risk from this thing.

I'd never force anyone to do something against their will, so more power to these guys, but my personal opinion on Kyrie's group is they're a bunch of overpaid, whiny babies.

[Zombiesonics]

just a quick reminder to to the imbeciles itt, harden and manyy other returning players have ASTHMA. how is covid not a serious life threatening threat to them?

I'm surprised at this point most Americans dont know people close to them who have suffered from this.

[basketballRob]

just a quick reminder to to the imbeciles itt, harden and manyy other returning players have ASTHMA. how is covid not a serious life threatening threat to them?

I'm surprised at this point most Americans dont know people close to them who have suffered from this.

If the NBA stopped the players from playing, the players would sue them. Kyrie would be leading the charge.

I know if i had asthma, i might consider not playing. That's a lot of money to give up though.

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[DaGawd]

I can't blame the players for not wanting to take the risk at all. Especially in their circumstance with a lot of them living in luxury. Sure the average everyday person whose an essential worker HAS to take the risk and go to work for the paycheck..but these guys aren't in the same shoes a lot of us are in. They can afford to sit and wait it out

[mccluskey]

just a quick reminder to to the imbeciles itt, harden and manyy other returning players have ASTHMA. how is covid not a serious life threatening threat to them?

I'm surprised at this point most Americans dont know people close to them who have suffered from this.

number one, nice ad hominem, smart guy.

number two, no one is saying force players to play. If someone has a pre-existing condition that puts them at greater risk, like asthma, that should be treated seriously. At the same time, pro athletes are one of the least at-risk populations in the world from this thing based on the evidence. If the rest of America is going back to work, with precautions, what makes NBA players special?

and number three, you call people imbeciles and then think everyone in America ought to have someone in their inner circle who's had COVID-19? There's 2.1 million cases in the country right now - if you took a minute to check that against the total population and see what percentage of Americans have actually been affected you'd have a real quick answer for your assumption.

I'm honestly not trying to be a dick to you, even though you led off with being one in your post, because that doesn't lead to any kind of productive dialogue. And I'm not saying coronavirus isn't a serious thing for certain populations and there's no reason anybody should have to play basketball against their will. But the fact is that most of us under the age of 45 or so have very little to worry about from this virus and pro athletes even less, and the league is doing everything in their power to make the return as safe as possible for everyone involved, just like every other responsible employer around the world is doing for their people. Kyrie is a guy who believes the earth is flat, you think he's working with a full deck up top? In my opinion he and the dudes in his group are acting like a bunch of disgruntled babies about the whole thing and taking any excuse to push back against the league and owners.

[Pharmcat]

just a quick reminder to to the imbeciles itt, harden and manyy other returning players have ASTHMA. how is covid not a serious life threatening threat to them?

I'm surprised at this point most Americans dont know people close to them who have suffered from this.

number one, nice ad hominem, smart guy.

number two, no one is saying force players to play. If someone has a pre-existing condition that puts them at greater risk, like asthma, that should be treated seriously. At the same time, pro athletes are one of the least at-risk populations in the world from this thing based on the evidence. If the rest of America is going back to work, with precautions, what makes NBA players special?

and number three, you call people imbeciles and then think everyone in America ought to have someone in their inner circle who's had COVID-19? There's 2.1 million cases in the country right now - if you took a minute to check that against the total population and see what percentage of Americans have actually been affected you'd have a real quick answer for your assumption.

I'm honestly not trying to be a dick to you, even though you led off with being one in your post, because that doesn't lead to any kind of productive dialogue. And I'm not saying coronavirus isn't a serious thing for certain populations and there's no reason anybody should have to play basketball against their will. But the fact is that most of us under the age of 45 or so have very little to worry about from this virus and pro athletes even less, and the league is doing everything in their power to make the return as safe as possible for everyone involved, just like every other responsible employer around the world is doing for their people. Kyrie is a guy who believes the earth is flat, you think he's working with a full deck up top? In my opinion he and the dudes in his group are acting like a bunch of disgruntled babies about the whole thing and taking any excuse to push back against the league and owners.

Can you guarantee their safety ? If the answer is no than the player is justified to have concerns . Nba is not a essential business. And we don't even know long term effects of covid, some people are getting scarring in lungs , if a player gets that their career is basically done for long-term

[Zombiesonics]

just a quick reminder to to the imbeciles itt, harden and manyy other returning players have ASTHMA. how is covid not a serious life threatening threat to them?

I'm surprised at this point most Americans dont know people close to them who have suffered from this.

number one, nice ad hominem, smart guy.

My overall view is my current govt could and should have done a much better job at not leaving this up to states...having a unified message seems ideal in a crisis. This is not political, its a public health issue imo. To me it just seems crazy a guy like harden cant play because of record covid cases in the state they are bubbling in. We shouldn't be hitting 'record numbers'.

Now if you or other posters still think covid is not a threat and we should just go about our lives per usual, we'll just agree to disagree.

[mccluskey]

just a quick reminder to to the imbeciles itt, harden and manyy other returning players have ASTHMA. how is covid not a serious life threatening threat to them?

I'm surprised at this point most Americans dont know people close to them who have suffered from this.

number one, nice ad hominem, smart guy.

number two, no one is saying force players to play. If someone has a pre-existing condition that puts them at greater risk, like asthma, that should be treated seriously. At the same time, pro athletes are one of the least at-risk populations in the world from this thing based on the evidence. If the rest of America is going back to work, with precautions, what makes NBA players special?

and number three, you call people imbeciles and then think everyone in America ought to have someone in their inner circle who's had COVID-19? There's 2.1 million cases in the country right now - if you took a minute to check that against the total population and see what percentage of Americans have actually been affected you'd have a real quick answer for your assumption.

I'm honestly not trying to be a dick to you, even though you led off with being one in your post, because that doesn't lead to any kind of productive dialogue. And I'm not saying coronavirus isn't a serious thing for certain populations and there's no reason anybody should have to play basketball against their will. But the fact is that most of us under the age of 45 or so have very little to worry about from this virus and pro athletes even less, and the league is doing everything in their power to make the return as safe as possible for everyone involved, just like every other responsible employer around the world is doing for their people. Kyrie is a guy who believes the earth is flat, you think he's working with a full deck up top? In my opinion he and the dudes in his group are acting like a bunch of disgruntled babies about the whole thing and taking any excuse to push back against the league and owners.

Can you guarantee their safety ? If the answer is no than the player is justified to have concerns . Nba is not a essential business. And we don't even know long term effects of covid, some people are getting scarring in lungs , if a player gets that their career is basically done for long-term

good grief, nobody said having concerns is wrong. Hell I have concerns with being back to work myself, just like I'm sure 99.9% of other Americans have concerns.

but its unreasonable to expect that an employer can protect you 100% - even if COVID-19 wasn't a thing, no one is 100% safe anywhere. The reasonable thing to do is that you work with your employer to try to reduce your concerns as much as possible, and if they make a good faith effort to do that and do their best to keep you safe and get the risks down to a miniscule level, then you put on your big boy pants and you go earn the money you signed up to earn.

[basketballRob]

I can't blame the players for not wanting to take the risk at all. Especially in their circumstance with a lot of them living in luxury. Sure the average everyday person whose an essential worker HAS to take the risk and go to work for the paycheck..but these guys aren't in the same shoes a lot of us are in. They can afford to sit and wait it out

That would be great for some unknown players to get a chance in the NBA !

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[basketballRob]

just a quick reminder to to the imbeciles itt, harden and manyy other returning players have ASTHMA. how is covid not a serious life threatening threat to them?

I'm surprised at this point most Americans dont know people close to them who have suffered from this.

number one, nice ad hominem, smart guy.

number two, no one is saying force players to play. If someone has a pre-existing condition that puts them at greater risk, like asthma, that should be treated seriously. At the same time, pro athletes are one of the least at-risk populations in the world from this thing based on the evidence. If the rest of America is going back to work, with precautions, what makes NBA players special?

and number three, you call people imbeciles and then think everyone in America ought to have someone in their inner circle who's had COVID-19? There's 2.1 million cases in the country right now - if you took a minute to check that against the total population and see what percentage of Americans have actually been affected you'd have a real quick answer for your assumption.

I'm honestly not trying to be a dick to you, even though you led off with being one in your post, because that doesn't lead to any kind of productive dialogue. And I'm not saying coronavirus isn't a serious thing for certain populations and there's no reason anybody should have to play basketball against their will. But the fact is that most of us under the age of 45 or so have very little to worry about from this virus and pro athletes even less, and the league is doing everything in their power to make the return as safe as possible for everyone involved, just like every other responsible employer around the world is doing for their people. Kyrie is a guy who believes the earth is flat, you think he's working with a full deck up top? In my opinion he and the dudes in his group are acting like a bunch of disgruntled babies about the whole thing and taking any excuse to push back against the league and owners.

Can you guarantee their safety ? If the answer is no than the player is justified to have concerns . Nba is not a essential business. And we don't even know long term effects of covid, some people are getting scarring in lungs , if a player gets that their career is basically done for long-term

The players don't have to play! !!! WOW

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[mccluskey]

just a quick reminder to to the imbeciles itt, harden and manyy other returning players have ASTHMA. how is covid not a serious life threatening threat to them?

I'm surprised at this point most Americans dont know people close to them who have suffered from this.

number one, nice ad hominem, smart guy.

My overall view is my current govt could and should have done a much better job at not leaving this up to states...having a unified message seems ideal in a crisis. This is not political, its a public health issue imo. To me it just seems crazy a guy like harden cant play because of record covid cases in the state they are bubbling in. We shouldn't be hitting 'record numbers'.

Now if you or other posters still think covid is not a threat and we should just go about our lives per usual, we'll just agree to disagree.

I 100% agree with you that the federal response could have been handled better, but I don't really think it would have changed a whole lot about the course of the disease. I want Trump out of office for all kinds of reasons, but I think it's pointless to blame him all that much for coronavirus - a global pandemic on this scale with the lying and obfuscation out of China and the screwups from the WHO and CDC was always going to be a disaster regardless of who's in the White House.

but the second paragraph of your post is a total strawman argument you're making which is not remotely what I said. Nobody said "COVID-19 is no threat, just go about your life per usual", dude.

the NBA is spending millions of dollars, redefining the parameters of their entire operation and taking every possible precaution to help keep these guys safe. Given that approach and the statistics on the likelihood of COVID-19 seriously affecting healthy professional athletes, it is absolutely not unreasonable to ask the players to return to work, the same way that milions of other Americans are doing right now.

and if guys still don't want to play, then fine - nobody should be forced to do it. But ultimately the NBA is a business, and businesses are hemorrhaging money right now, so league owners shouldn't be required to pay those guys' contracts who don't want to return to work.

[dhsilv2]

just a quick reminder to to the imbeciles itt, harden and manyy other returning players have ASTHMA. how is covid not a serious life threatening threat to them?

I'm surprised at this point most Americans dont know people close to them who have suffered from this.

I was talking with some friends about this. Nobody that any of us know has had this. That's still a very real fact with this in large parts of the country.

[xdrta+]

number one, nice ad hominem, smart guy.

My overall view is my current govt could and should have done a much better job at not leaving this up to states...having a unified message seems ideal in a crisis. This is not political, its a public health issue imo. To me it just seems crazy a guy like harden cant play because of record covid cases in the state they are bubbling in. We shouldn't be hitting 'record numbers'.

Now if you or other posters still think covid is not a threat and we should just go about our lives per usual, we'll just agree to disagree.

I 100% agree with you that the federal response could have been handled better, but I don't really think it would have changed a whole lot about the course of the disease. I want Trump out of office for all kinds of reasons, but I think it's pointless to blame him all that much for coronavirus - a global pandemic on this scale with the lying and obfuscation out of China and the screwups from the WHO and CDC was always going to be a disaster regardless of who's in the White House.

but the second paragraph of your post is a total strawman argument you're making which is not remotely what I said. Nobody said "COVID-19 is no threat, just go about your life per usual", dude.

the NBA is spending millions of dollars, redefining the parameters of their entire operation and taking every possible precaution to help keep these guys safe. Given that approach and the statistics on the likelihood of COVID-19 seriously affecting healthy professional athletes, it is absolutely not unreasonable to ask the players to return to work, the same way that milions of other Americans are doing right now.

and if guys still don't want to play, then fine - nobody should be forced to do it. But ultimately the NBA is a business, and businesses are hemorrhaging money right now, so league owners shouldn't be required to pay those guys' contracts who don't want to return to work.

The latest CDC report, a study of 600,000 people, shows that death was 12 times as high (19.5% to 1.6%) among patients with underlying conditions. So one can understand why someone with asthma or other conditions might be hesitant about joining in on the fun in Orlando.

[Birth of the Cool]

Just now, several MLB players and team staff tested positive for Covid-19. Does anyone really think NBA players, and staff, etc will be Covid-Free? The continuing of this season will most likely have to deal with teams missing players due to Covid and/or Covid positive scares with players, staff having it during this time. It's gonna be a mess and not what anyone thinks of as normal NBA caliber. It's just an asterisk waiting to happen.

[SNPA]

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This...

None of the players are scared of Covid, it's a nothingburger for young people who are not morbidly obese...

COVID attacks the lungs. Lungs are kinda important to an athlete’s future. COVID is also causing blood clot issues. For any athlete using his brain it’s not a nothing burger, it’s risk vs reward and there are real risks and for some not much reward.

The median age of COVID deaths is >80.

Look at all the people shoulder to shoulder protesting in the streets.

Everybody by now realizes, that for YOUNG HEALTHY people, social distancing is a hoax and COVID ain't sheet.

Oh. Social distancing is a hoax that scientists from around the globe got together in secret to inflect upon all of us. That’s a perfectly legit and rationale thing to think.

I don’t talk to hoaxers.

Good luck.

[G35]

just a quick reminder to to the imbeciles itt, harden and manyy other returning players have ASTHMA. how is covid not a serious life threatening threat to them?

I'm surprised at this point most Americans dont know people close to them who have suffered from this.

number one, nice ad hominem, smart guy.

My overall view is my current govt could and should have done a much better job at not leaving this up to states...having a unified message seems ideal in a crisis. This is not political, its a public health issue imo. To me it just seems crazy a guy like harden cant play because of record covid cases in the state they are bubbling in. We shouldn't be hitting 'record numbers'.

Now if you or other posters still think covid is not a threat and we should just go about our lives per usual, we'll just agree to disagree.

That is against the Constitution. The President cannot unilaterally dictate policy...otherwise he becomes a king...and that is why they fought to leave British rule.....