HarthorneWingo wrote:moocow007 wrote:Only option guy that clearly makes sense to bring back is Bullock. Not only did he actually look pretty good overall and can stretch the floor but because of the back issue (which he appears to be fully recovered from) his contract would still be friendly even if the salary cap drops. I would not pick up the options of anyone else. Not even Payton. The rest of those guys you don't need at all. Let your new and improved front office find guys that actually fit together around your young guys.
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I agree with you about not picking up their respective options, but would want any of them back “at the right price”?
Taj GibsonAt this point in his career (he'll be 35 in a couple days...happy bday Taj!!) he's more a vet presence guy that you like to have around rather than a rotation player. Someone that maybe even transitions soon to the coaching staff as Taj has been mentioned as a guy that has the right mind and demeanor for it.
Taj on a vet minimum I'd take for sure. Just for his locker room presence and to keep him around the organization.
Bobby PortisPortis was frustrating at times but if they do find a taker for Randle bringing Portis back does make sense. Portis has skills and in the right role he could be very useful.
Portis on a slightly better than Noah Vonleh 2020 contract? Great. A mid level exception type contract. May be pushing it. Definitely not what the Knicks gave Portis.
As a bench big and a guy that can give you some quick offense Crazyeyes II could actually be a nice contributor.
Elfrid PaytonI just don't see a place for Payton here. He's just not a very good starting PG (Knicks have backup caliber points), he doesn't really have anything that he does particularly well and the Knicks still will have Frank and DSJr and likely will be adding another young PG (from either the lotto pick or via the Clippers pick).
If the Knicks were looking for a "mentor" type vet PG there are much better options.
If they are looking for a vet that can not just mentor but also be a short term starter (till one of the young PGs becomes ready) there are also much better options.
If they plan on just sucking (another development year and a go around in a stronger 2021 lottery) then just let their young guys that are still on rookie contracts play.
Didn't understand the Payton signing last year. Don't see the need to bring him back this upcoming year.
Wayne EllingtonLOLZ followed by head shake and eye roll (my reaction every time anyone on this board would bring his name up in the past as a guy they like on this team).
No. Just no. This guy earned every bit of the nickname I gave him...Beef Wellington. Useless. Just useless. Not even for the vet minimum.
I still haven't figured out how this guy has managed to even last this long in the NBA. If you google the words "milquetoast" and "nba" his picture shows up.
Moe HarklessHe's a backup SF that basically just defends (he doesn't shoot and he can't create his own shots). Those (wings that are willing to defend cause you got no other skills) may be the position that is easiest to fill in the NBA.
Couldn't care less if he's a NY guy.
For vet minimum, sure. A little bit more than vet minimum? Fine. Half of what he was making. We can talk.. But I'd not jump to give him a contract.
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