NBA - The Re-Open: - Connaughton has Covid-19, pg. 94

[FlagsFlyForever]

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[tedbrogen]

Yeah, the biggest issues with the plan is not having the workers stay in the bubble with them and that at least a small percentage of players are going to try to leave the bubble at times. In conclusion, it will be hilarious when the Bucks season ends because Middleton had to sneak out to the club then tests positives and spread it to Giannis. Then Giannis decides he wants to leave because he can no longer trust Middleton. He gets traded to the Warriors for Wiggins/Draymond/some picks and the Warriors win the next four championships.

[Frank Nova]

Yeah, the biggest issues with the plan is not having the workers stay in the bubble with them and that at least a small percentage of players are going to try to leave the bubble at times. In conclusion, it will be hilarious when the Bucks season ends because Middleton had to sneak out to the club then tests positives and spread it to Giannis. Then Giannis decides he wants to leave because he can no longer trust Middleton. He gets traded to the Warriors for Wiggins/Draymond/some picks and the Warriors win the next four championships.

Very creative. You must be a glass half empty kind of guy eh?

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

The tone of Winslow's comments makes it feel like he is missing something and upset. If he came out and said I'm not in support of playing and plan to stay home I don't think anyone would care. But his tweet makes him sounds pissed about something in particular and maybe I'm reading between the lines but maybe it's cause he expects to get paid as well? He just wasn't clear.

[FlagsFlyForever]

The tone of Winslow's comments makes it feel like he is missing something and upset. If he came out and said I'm not in support of playing and plan to stay home I don't think anyone would care. But his tweet makes him sounds pissed about something in particular and maybe I'm reading between the lines but maybe it's cause he expects to get paid as well? He just wasn't clear.

I'm not saying that's what Winslow meant but it does seem unfair that a player who opts to sit out the rest of the season will lose 9% of their annual salary while the players on the 8 teams not invited to Orlando will receive their full salary.

[WRau1]

Marc Gasol looks to be in incredible shape, he's going to be an issue.

[Chuck Diesel]

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From June 13th. Would be interested to hear Fauci’s take tomorrow.

[RRyder823]

The tone of Winslow's comments makes it feel like he is missing something and upset. If he came out and said I'm not in support of playing and plan to stay home I don't think anyone would care. But his tweet makes him sounds pissed about something in particular and maybe I'm reading between the lines but maybe it's cause he expects to get paid as well? He just wasn't clear.

I'm not saying that's what Winslow meant but it does seem unfair that a player who opts to sit out the rest of the season will lose 9% of their annual salary while the players on the 8 teams not invited to Orlando will receive their full salary.

One set is refusing work while the other set is being denied work.

If thats not fair then you should probably change the laws for unemployment eligibility also

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[Badgerlander]

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[steger_3434]

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Game 7 and they shoot 20 more free throws than us? At least it’s realistic


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[FlagsFlyForever]

The tone of Winslow's comments makes it feel like he is missing something and upset. If he came out and said I'm not in support of playing and plan to stay home I don't think anyone would care. But his tweet makes him sounds pissed about something in particular and maybe I'm reading between the lines but maybe it's cause he expects to get paid as well? He just wasn't clear.

I'm not saying that's what Winslow meant but it does seem unfair that a player who opts to sit out the rest of the season will lose 9% of their annual salary while the players on the 8 teams not invited to Orlando will receive their full salary.

One set is refusing work while the other set is being denied work.

If thats not fair then you should probably change the laws for unemployment eligibility also

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They did change the laws for unemployment during the pandemic.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I'm not saying that's what Winslow meant but it does seem unfair that a player who opts to sit out the rest of the season will lose 9% of their annual salary while the players on the 8 teams not invited to Orlando will receive their full salary.

One set is refusing work while the other set is being denied work.

If thats not fair then you should probably change the laws for unemployment eligibility also

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They did change the laws for unemployment during the pandemic.

That kind of illustrates his point. If you get laid off from covid, you are making 1k a week in unemployment. If you make $400 aweek full time at a grocery store and refuse to show up, you aren't eligible for unemployment.

[chonestown]

Trying to think of a non-political point to make here. Alas, it escapes me.

[FlagsFlyForever]

The surging number of coronavirus cases in Florida, which posted a record high Saturday for the third consecutive day, has raised concerns in many corners of the NBA, from players to team executives to the league office itself.

The National Basketball Players Association held a virtual town hall with players this week and addressed concerns about the Florida cases, sources familiar with the matter told ESPN. Players brought up the fact that Walt Disney World staffers who will not reside in the NBA campus -- including hotel housekeepers -- will not be subject to any coronavirus testing, sources said.

Of the rising figures, NBPA executive director Michele Roberts told ESPN: "Can't say I am surprised, given the state's approach to reopening. We are obviously clearly monitoring the situation. If it's necessary to add further restrictions respecting those third parties having access to the campus, we will seek to implement them." Roberts added that by "third parties," she meant Disney staffers who will be servicing the hotels where teams are staying or providing other services at the resort. She said it remains to be seen what restrictions -- if any -- might be possible given that many Disney employees are unionized.

In at least one recent call with high-level team executives, NBA commissioner Adam Silver expressed a resolve to go on -- a confidence in the NBA's bubble concept -- while recognizing the seriousness of the coronavirus spike, sources said.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29341659/concern-nba-grows-coronavirus-cases-spike-florida

[RRyder823]

I'm not saying that's what Winslow meant but it does seem unfair that a player who opts to sit out the rest of the season will lose 9% of their annual salary while the players on the 8 teams not invited to Orlando will receive their full salary.

One set is refusing work while the other set is being denied work.

If thats not fair then you should probably change the laws for unemployment eligibility also

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They did change the laws for unemployment during the pandemic.

Not to the point that if they refused work and didn't have an underlying condition that they still got it

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[paulpressey25]

Not sure Michele Roberts can have it both ways in her quote above. If Florida is so dangerous due to their policies, then take it to a different state. Interesting how she then pivots to the obvious answer, keep the Disney workers in the bubble.

100% behind the NBA return, but cough up the dough for the essential workers to live in the bubble.

[Chuck Diesel]

If only we’d have had a way to predict a Covid spike in Central Florida...

[Plossum]

Imagine being put in a 6 week or however long bubble with NBA players as a Disney employee. Sign me up (so long as we get to see the games )

[DutchManDanFan]

I don’t think its possible for 200 athletes to stay in the bubble, most are focussed professionals but there will be some Rodman types that sneak out to go grind on strangers in clubs. I think it makes sense to try the whole thing out, but these are guys who have been enabled to do whatever they want, since they started flashing great potential in middle school. I doubt they will suddenly start reading classic literature and going to bed at 9.

I asume this will be noticed by cameras and the player will be held when trying to return to the hotel. And kicked out of the bubble immediately.

[DutchManDanFan]

Went back and listened. The quote was from Dave McMenamin on Windy's pod.

Fundamentally, the way the information coming out has been framed has been detrimental to the process. For a long time, what we've been talking about is the health concerns. If it was truly about health concerns there wouldn't be 22 teams in the bubble. It just wouldn't. There'd be 16 teams. They take out six teams and all those people that those teams would represent & boil it down. But the money is what's ruling the day here. If that was the conversation to begin with and the players were told in very clear terms that if we have this bubble with 22 teams it means you have $650 million dollars in your pocket that you wouldn't lose and that's where we're beginning & ending, and we'll figure out the other concerns as we move on...I think we're having a more realistic conversation. But because the conversation has ebbed and flowed from the #1 concern being health or player movement or being able to express yourself in regards to social justice..it's been so many moving conversations that the real gist of what this is about has been muddled."

I don’t think it matters much if there are 16 or 22 or even 30 teams in the bubble. If everybody tests negative on July 10, July 20 and July 30 and nobody from outside enters the bubble, it should be safe.

I want to know how the new increase of positive tested arise. In what areas? What was their behaviour? Is it because of ignorance and denial of the risks? Or people working in crowded industries, like meat facturies?
In the Netherlands the biggest outbreaks were in places where people go to church in big groups. I think in Italy many people went to church praying against the disease but getting infected doing so. I don’t know for sure, but I like to know.
Overhere again the biggest outbreaks recently are in places where people go to church much more then in other places. For us an outbreak of 30 people in the last week in an area of 50,000 people is huge after we had a ‘smart lockdown’ for more than 2 months.

The stupidity of people is frightening though. If you stay away from big crowds, don’t meet too many people, keep distance as much as possible and wash your hands at least 10 times a day, you are safe with high probability.