ankle420breaker wrote:Phillyboy wrote:ankle420breaker wrote:The Bynums, Fultz', etc are givens.
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Yo anklebreaker, peace to you sir but if there were givens perhaps they should have been mentioned and now they are.
Hope I'm not still in given territory if I name Shawn Bradley. No need to explain to anyone here why he was underwhelming.
How about our current GM? EB was never the player here he was in LA and yet we all were so very hopeful with signing the top FA that year
How about DC? He's certainly on the list of guys who wasted much of his God given talent
Dalembert played hard in his contract season then regressed after getting his money
Geiger was a slug we hoped much more from and he nixed the deal that would have changed this team
All of the "second scorers" we tried to pair with little what's his name. Kukoc, Hawkins, Stackhouse, Hughes, Van Horn. None of them really filled the role we were looking for especially Softie Van Horn
Kenny Payne- A high draft choice never panned out
Big Dog- A gunner always out of shape. Best years were gone before he got here
Kenny Thomas- Way overpaid tweener
Evan Turner- Extra disappointing since he had a short streak of some great games (remember?) in the middle of his usual mediocre just teased us. good riddance
Chris Webber- Had two triple doubles the week before we traded for him then WTF happened to him once we got him?
There's more but I don't want to write a novel. Again, peace to you sir
OG on the block
Peace to you as well, Sir.
Strong list. Dead on about Webber. Everyone points out that he was damaged goods by the time we got him, but forget that he was playing at a ridiculously high level leading up to that trade. Some unexplainable force snatched the life out of him upon his arrival in Philly.
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The thing about Webber was he was putting up numbers but in retrospect I wonder how well he was actually playing before the trade. I know I didn't have league pass at the time and I don't think many people did. We also didn't value efficiency like we do now and Webber was under 50 TS% every year after he blew out his knee (which made him a pretty terrible fit with Iverson).
I think him winning that Western Conference player of the month might have been a bit like when Tobias won it last year with the Clippers- the Kings had a good record that month and they gave the award to their leading scorer. The Kings had a better +/- with Webber off the court, they didn't really drop off after he left, and so on.
The real benefit of that Webber trade was that they were able to get off Kenny Thomas and Brian Skinner who had longer deals. The Skinner contract was ridiculous, he signed that summer for a five year deal close to the full midlevel and then they just didn't play him. Getting off the salary gave Iverson another "star" to play with while also leading to a path to cap space/potentially rebuilding post-Iverson.
Of course they screwed it up because Billy King is a bad GM but that's a whole other thing. If we want to talk "underwhelming" Billy might be at the top of the list.