OT: Democratic Primary Thread

[Clyde_Style]

Yup Republicans gave up being a party that actually wants to govern the moment their sensibilities were offended by a black man getting elected President. Other than the disastrous tax giveaway what actually significant legislation was passed during the two years they controlled all 3 houses of Congress?

And Tulsi? I never understood the Tulsi love. She’s been proven to be a disinterested self promoter that couldn’t even show conviction in one of the biggest votes in her career. Tulsi Gabbard is an absolute fraud that managed to burn whatever credibility she had.

I've been astonished at any amount of love given to Tulsi. She is a very fishy character. I posted about it in the past and all I got back was crickets, so I can't bother to dismantle her again. AFAIK, she's a rogue player and has nothing to do with actual leftists in office like AOC. Tulsi is never playing with a full deck and she has very strange bedfellows that most of the actual leftists are not tainted with. I've created a pasta recipe in her honor, Assad Putinesca.

Tulsi Gabbard is who exactly she shows in public. She’s an opportunist that will align to whatever keeps her name in the press. I would not be surprised if her alignment to the Progressive left was simply political expedience.

https://zora.medium.com/tulsi-gabbard-isnt-as-progressive-as-she-claims-to-be-9fe32d447b63

Modi is a steaming POS like Assad is and Tulsi is going to side with Hindu nationalists, one of the worst forms of identity politics on the planet. I brought this up here in the past. She has terrible allegiances and it doesn't likely stop at Assad and Modi which I'm pretty sure you have picked up on.

[br7knicks]

If I understand you correctly, you're saying the Dems are just as single-minded as the GOP about winning. I've never heard that before, except from people who say both parties are the same and that all politicians are equally bad/corrupt. None of which is true.

If anything the Democrats needed to become more cut throat, because the GOP has no scruples and they gained power without having a majority by devious means on a state by state basis, rigging the system to elect more of theirs. The GOP ate the Dems lunch because they will stop at nothing to win. Now that we likely have a much larger majority forming in this election it will be necessary to dismantle all of the voter supression and gerrymandering tactics they installed one state at a time.

The big play after this election would be the Dems shutting out large donors from financing campaigns or going all the way and making campaigns publicly financed.

The Democrats have been much better at seeking middle ground, but that is impossible to do when you have a McConnell led GOP Senate that doesn't like to compromise on anything.

The country veered too much to the right, so for many the middle ground doesn't feel like the middle any longer and I get that, but the underlying conditions and shifting demographics bode much better for moving the Dems leftwards. But, historically speaking, there is little comparison between parties the past two decades. The GOP is an obstructionist party that never seeks to compromise any longer.

Yes, both sides are definitely playing to get wins for their side versus trying to find middle ground or compromise with one another.

That's why I wanted Tulsi. I felt she was smart enough to not just look out for wins on her side, but rather teach Republicans to be reasonable and negotiable.

Easier to move forward and get **** done when you can work together rather than against each other

This is why your comment doesn't register for me. When your opponent never seeks the middle ground, there is no middle ground to be had. It is the GOP that has turned this into a winner takes all scenario. That you are pinning that equally on both parties strikes me as highly illogical.

And Tulsi has no interest in the middle ground. She set herself on fire within her own party. Expecting her to be the one who would broker any form of a working relationship between the DNC and the GOP is pretty ludicrous IMO.

It's okay if it's not logical to you, but it's what's happening.

The Republicans are definitely worse. They were awful, and continue to be.

But they're both trying to get victories for their parties, not trying to help the country. It's a shame. Definitely the Republicans are to blame for most of it, but now they're both doing it.

[br7knicks]

If anything, I think the biggest thing holding Dems back has been trying to work with Republicans and find compromises. As Fury stated, Newt introduced Obstruction as strategy and the Republicans have had too much success with that to make changes. The Dems should target non-voters rather than Republican voters imo. Rachel Bitcofer is a name yall may notice I drop a lot, she's really worth checking out.

I disagree.

I think the Democrats would have lost so many voters if they went with Bernie. Of the family and people I know who are registered Democrats, they don't want someone that extreme.

I think they need to get a bunch of middle of the road Republicans who are furious with Trump over the last few months.

[j4remi]

I disagree.

I think the Democrats would have lost so many voters if they went with Bernie. Of the family and people I know who are registered Democrats, they don't want someone that extreme.

I think they need to get a bunch of middle of the road Republicans who are furious with Trump over the last few months.

I have zero faith in middle of the road Republicans. What's Trump's approval rating among Republicans right now? I don't think it's ever gotten below 80%, there's zero value in pandering to the margins when a huge chunk of the electorate doesn't vote. That doesn't necessarily mean going for Bernie. It just means not pretending the Republicans are acting in good faith and just looking for compromise...Merrick Garland was supposed to be a peace offering.

I gotta throw this in too. I've never really met someone that had a positive view of Tulsi but thought Bernie was too extreme. Usually the Tulsi heads I've met think Bernie doesn't go far enough on issues like foreign policy.

[Clyde_Style]

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Trump tried to block his niece, Mary Trump, from releasing her book: "Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man"

Nope, it is coming out

# 1 in pre-sales on Amazon. Looks like maybe the worst expose to come out on Trump yet

She's the daughter of Fred Trump Jr., Donald's older brother. She's got a doctorate in psychology and she's taught courses in trauma, psychopathology, and developmental psychology. Yeah, this ought to be good

[Clyde_Style]

Yes, both sides are definitely playing to get wins for their side versus trying to find middle ground or compromise with one another.

That's why I wanted Tulsi. I felt she was smart enough to not just look out for wins on her side, but rather teach Republicans to be reasonable and negotiable.

Easier to move forward and get **** done when you can work together rather than against each other

This is why your comment doesn't register for me. When your opponent never seeks the middle ground, there is no middle ground to be had. It is the GOP that has turned this into a winner takes all scenario. That you are pinning that equally on both parties strikes me as highly illogical.

And Tulsi has no interest in the middle ground. She set herself on fire within her own party. Expecting her to be the one who would broker any form of a working relationship between the DNC and the GOP is pretty ludicrous IMO.

It's okay if it's not logical to you, but it's what's happening.

The Republicans are definitely worse. They were awful, and continue to be.

But they're both trying to get victories for their parties, not trying to help the country. It's a shame. Definitely the Republicans are to blame for most of it, but now they're both doing it.

You're speaking in broad, generic terms and not really saying anything. What's happening is there is an election coming up and there will be a winner and a loser in each race. Saying it is a shame because they are trying to get victories doesn't mean anything. It's an election. Maybe what you mean is you find politics shameful, but you're not even making a specific point about why the character of the Democrats in relation to the Republicans is somehow dishonorable. Saying they are trying to win an election is vague and meaningless.

[Jalen Bluntson]

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Trump tried to block his niece, Mary Trump, from releasing her book: "Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man"

Nope, it is coming out

# 1 in pre-sales on Amazon. Looks like maybe the worst expose to come out on Trump yet

She's the daughter of Fred Trump Jr., Donald's older brother. She's got a doctorate in psychology and she's taught courses in trauma, psychopathology, and developmental psychology. Yeah, this ought to be good

How long before it's out?

[HarthorneWingo]

Rep. Karen Bass, a VP candidate and chair of the congressional black caucus in on Stephen Colbert's show tonight. Looks like she's being introduced to the American people. I like her best out of all of the candidates I've heard so far.

[HarthorneWingo]

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Trump tried to block his niece, Mary Trump, from releasing her book: "Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man"

Nope, it is coming out

# 1 in pre-sales on Amazon. Looks like maybe the worst expose to come out on Trump yet

She's the daughter of Fred Trump Jr., Donald's older brother. She's got a doctorate in psychology and she's taught courses in trauma, psychopathology, and developmental psychology. Yeah, this ought to be good

You can't be previously retraining chit

[Clyde_Style]

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Trump tried to block his niece, Mary Trump, from releasing her book: "Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man"

Nope, it is coming out

# 1 in pre-sales on Amazon. Looks like maybe the worst expose to come out on Trump yet

She's the daughter of Fred Trump Jr., Donald's older brother. She's got a doctorate in psychology and she's taught courses in trauma, psychopathology, and developmental psychology. Yeah, this ought to be good

How long before it's out?

It is available for purchase at the end of July. You can pre-order now on Amazon. Simon & Schuster has already printed 75,000 copies and are already going back to the printing presses. It's a blockbuster, at least in terms of sale, but it may be very damaging for Trump too

[HarthorneWingo]

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Trump tried to block his niece, Mary Trump, from releasing her book: "Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man"

Nope, it is coming out

# 1 in pre-sales on Amazon. Looks like maybe the worst expose to come out on Trump yet

She's the daughter of Fred Trump Jr., Donald's older brother. She's got a doctorate in psychology and she's taught courses in trauma, psychopathology, and developmental psychology. Yeah, this ought to be good

How long before it's out?

It is available for purchase at the end of July. You can pre-order now on Amazon. Simon & Schuster has already printed 75,000 copies and are already going back to the printing presses. It's a blockbuster, at least in terms of sale, but it may be very damaging for Trump too

What do you think the worst part is?

Fred made Donald ... __________________. Let your imaginations run wild.

[Clyde_Style]

How long before it's out?

It is available for purchase at the end of July. You can pre-order now on Amazon. Simon & Schuster has already printed 75,000 copies and are already going back to the printing presses. It's a blockbuster, at least in terms of sale, but it may be very damaging for Trump too

What do you think the worst part is?

Fred made Donald (fill in the blank).

lawd don't know. I do know Trump crapped all over her and Fred Jr. when Fred Sr. died. They sued him when the will showed them getting far less than Donnie and they claimed Trump got senile Fred Sr. to alter his will in his favor right before he died. Knowing Trump, you'd assume it is likely true. Then, out of spite, he cut off his brother's family insurance that was traditionally paid for by the Trump Organization knowing his brother had recently had a child with c.palsy that needed lots of medical care. If anybody knows what a prick Trump is, it is his brother's daughter.

[Pointgod]

Yes, both sides are definitely playing to get wins for their side versus trying to find middle ground or compromise with one another.

That's why I wanted Tulsi. I felt she was smart enough to not just look out for wins on her side, but rather teach Republicans to be reasonable and negotiable.

Easier to move forward and get **** done when you can work together rather than against each other

This is why your comment doesn't register for me. When your opponent never seeks the middle ground, there is no middle ground to be had. It is the GOP that has turned this into a winner takes all scenario. That you are pinning that equally on both parties strikes me as highly illogical.

And Tulsi has no interest in the middle ground. She set herself on fire within her own party. Expecting her to be the one who would broker any form of a working relationship between the DNC and the GOP is pretty ludicrous IMO.

It's okay if it's not logical to you, but it's what's happening.

The Republicans are definitely worse. They were awful, and continue to be.

But they're both trying to get victories for their parties, not trying to help the country. It's a shame. Definitely the Republicans are to blame for most of it, but now they're both doing it.

Wait what? How are Democrats not trying to help the country? There have been over 300 bills passed by the Democratic Congress that are just sitting on Mitch McConnell’s desk not even taken up by the Senate. That’s the perfect example of partisanship. That **** doesn’t even want to have a discussion or debate. Republicans know that their policies are unpopular to the majority of the country and they’re even worse for their constituents. Republicans are the ones that look to score superficial victories for their party and do nothing good for the country. Meanwhile Democrats generally pursue policies that a majority of the country agree with and will benefit the most amount of people (even Republicans). Yes they look to score political victories by passing good legislation. One example I can think of is expanding mail in voting considering that there’s a global pandemic raging and voting is a constitutional right. Expanding mail in voting is good for everyone because it improves voter turnout, keeps people safe during a pandemic and it’s reliable.

Here’s an article about the bills just sitting there on McConnell’s desk

https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnell-grim-reaper-395-house-bills-senate-wont-pass-1487401

[Clyde_Style]

Well Damn!

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Spoiler:

[Clyde_Style]

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Please put this weasley fck in a cell with a large man named Bubba

[HarthorneWingo]

It is available for purchase at the end of July. You can pre-order now on Amazon. Simon & Schuster has already printed 75,000 copies and are already going back to the printing presses. It's a blockbuster, at least in terms of sale, but it may be very damaging for Trump too

What do you think the worst part is?

Fred made Donald (fill in the blank).

lawd don't know. I do know Trump crapped all over her and Fred Jr. when Fred Sr. died. They sued him when the will showed them getting far less than Donnie and they claimed Trump got senile Fred Sr. to alter his will in his favor right before he died. Knowing Trump, you'd assume it is likely true. Then, out of spite, he cut off his brother's family insurance that was traditionally paid for by the Trump Organization knowing his brother had recently had a child with c.palsy that needed lots of medical care. If anybody knows what a prick Trump is, it is his brother's daughter.

Ima gonna go with something like The Aristocrats joke

[Appleshampoo]

This is why your comment doesn't register for me. When your opponent never seeks the middle ground, there is no middle ground to be had. It is the GOP that has turned this into a winner takes all scenario. That you are pinning that equally on both parties strikes me as highly illogical.

And Tulsi has no interest in the middle ground. She set herself on fire within her own party. Expecting her to be the one who would broker any form of a working relationship between the DNC and the GOP is pretty ludicrous IMO.

It's okay if it's not logical to you, but it's what's happening.

The Republicans are definitely worse. They were awful, and continue to be.

But they're both trying to get victories for their parties, not trying to help the country. It's a shame. Definitely the Republicans are to blame for most of it, but now they're both doing it.

Wait what? How are Democrats not trying to help the country? There have been over 300 bills passed by the Democratic Congress that are just sitting on Mitch McConnell’s desk not even taken up by the Senate. That’s the perfect example of partisanship. That **** doesn’t even want to have a discussion or debate. Republicans know that their policies are unpopular to the majority of the country and they’re even worse for their constituents. Republicans are the ones that look to score superficial victories for their party and do nothing good for the country. Meanwhile Democrats generally pursue policies that a majority of the country agree with and will benefit the most amount of people (even Republicans). Yes they look to score political victories by passing good legislation. One example I can think of is expanding mail in voting considering that there’s a global pandemic raging and voting is a constitutional right. Expanding mail in voting is good for everyone because it improves voter turnout, keeps people safe during a pandemic and it’s reliable.

Here’s an article about the bills just sitting there on McConnell’s desk

https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnell-grim-reaper-395-house-bills-senate-wont-pass-1487401

The difference typically is democrats will introduce an early ask to help the environment and republicans will induce a two week **** show gov't shut down over routine funding of planned parenthood.

[HarthorneWingo]

It's okay if it's not logical to you, but it's what's happening.

The Republicans are definitely worse. They were awful, and continue to be.

But they're both trying to get victories for their parties, not trying to help the country. It's a shame. Definitely the Republicans are to blame for most of it, but now they're both doing it.

Wait what? How are Democrats not trying to help the country? There have been over 300 bills passed by the Democratic Congress that are just sitting on Mitch McConnell’s desk not even taken up by the Senate. That’s the perfect example of partisanship. That **** doesn’t even want to have a discussion or debate. Republicans know that their policies are unpopular to the majority of the country and they’re even worse for their constituents. Republicans are the ones that look to score superficial victories for their party and do nothing good for the country. Meanwhile Democrats generally pursue policies that a majority of the country agree with and will benefit the most amount of people (even Republicans). Yes they look to score political victories by passing good legislation. One example I can think of is expanding mail in voting considering that there’s a global pandemic raging and voting is a constitutional right. Expanding mail in voting is good for everyone because it improves voter turnout, keeps people safe during a pandemic and it’s reliable.

Here’s an article about the bills just sitting there on McConnell’s desk

https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnell-grim-reaper-395-house-bills-senate-wont-pass-1487401

The difference typically is democrats will introduce an early ask to help the environment and republicans will induce a two week **** show gov't shut down over routine funding of planned parenthood.

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[Rich Rane]

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For the record, Biden's doing this without huge rallies or big events.

[Clyde_Style]

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For the record, Biden's doing this without huge rallies or big events.

And he'll spend it on winning while Trump and Parscale will spend it on hookers and blow