Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?
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Thor is probably 450lbs in that vid. Zion has around 100lbs on McGregor. Thor has 270lbs on him.
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Jiu Jitsu guys were destroying martial artists twice their size in the early UFCs... Guys that have been training their martial art since childhood, and the Jiu jitsu guys knew basically just jiu jitsu. McGregor basically knows a lot about every martial art, and he would destroy someone that doesn't even if he was 10x smaller
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Whoever has Zion winning due to his size clearly has no idea how combat works. Connor wins easily. 5'9 180 is not small by any means. Conor has the reach, precision, and power to knock Zion out easy. Zion would not be able to keep Conor in a submission either. If he tried to body Conor, Zion would end up getting knocked out.
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Wagonband wrote:Jiu Jitsu guys were destroying martial artists twice their size in the early UFCs... Guys that have been training their martial art since childhood, and the Jiu jitsu guys knew basically just jiu jitsu. McGregor basically knows a lot about every martial art, and he would destroy someone that doesn't even if he was 10x smaller
THIS.
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ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:zimpy27 wrote:McGregor is nearly a black belt in jiu jitsu. He would win even with the size difference.
I dont think you're really appreciating what the size difference is. This is not moving up to 2 weight classes. This is a foot and 150 pounds with a freak athlete. Conor is smaller than the average person. He's slightly bigger than Floyd Mayweather who is a midget.
I appreciate the world class skill and technique, and he'd destroy folks much bigger than him. But Zion Williamson is literally twice his size. Conor goes for a single leg take down and Zion would literally be able to pick him up and suplex him lol.
I dont understand some of these comments about how he would be able to take down 300lbs of muscle by the hips and full-mount him EVEN if Zion has no clue what he's doing. Jesus. Do you know how much stronger he would be than Conor?
I wish there was an image to compare the size differences, its comical. I love MMA, and for the most part am a pretty big Conor fan, but this is legit silly.
So you think Conor would fight Zion like someone whose not a trained fighter?
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I’ve seen first hand a small Thai Muay Thai fighter knock out a muscle head British guy who was twice his size on the street. The little dude whooped his ass like he was nothing.
Unless Zion is also some what skilled, he would be a huge underdog to beat Connor I would imagine
Unless Zion is also some what skilled, he would be a huge underdog to beat Connor I would imagine
EscapoTHB wrote:I think the 92 dream team would get beat by a lot of the top international teams today.

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reflex35 wrote:Would you say that a guy that never played ball would win one on one basketball match against let’s say AI?
Even if the guy is a lot heavier and bigger?
Would he ?
Don’t make me laugh ... Connor would kill Zion and before that he will make him cry like a baby.
Let’s be real here.
Imagine if Alistair Overeem took AI to the post! How would AI win? Overeem 12-0
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Forget MMA, just go to a local boxing gym and get in the ring with the smallest guy you can find - hell, it could even be a teenage kid (around 15-16yrs old) who you have a lot of size and muscle on. I'll tell you this right now if you have no boxing experience and that kid is a fairly polished boxer - you're either getting KO'd or TKO'd and it's probably happening in the 1st round.
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HEKTOR wrote:Forget MMA, just go to a local boxing gym and get in the ring with the smallest guy you can find - hell, it could even be a teenage kid (around 15-16yrs old) who you have a lot of size and muscle on. I'll tell you this right now if you have no boxing experience and that kid is a fairly polished boxer - you're either getting KO'd or TKO'd and it's probably happening in the 1st round.
The gym I trained at had a national champion at somewhere around 120 pounds and he went against everyone in the gym. Piss funny watching him beat up heavyweights.
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AussieBuck wrote:HEKTOR wrote:Forget MMA, just go to a local boxing gym and get in the ring with the smallest guy you can find - hell, it could even be a teenage kid (around 15-16yrs old) who you have a lot of size and muscle on. I'll tell you this right now if you have no boxing experience and that kid is a fairly polished boxer - you're either getting KO'd or TKO'd and it's probably happening in the 1st round.
The gym I trained at had a national champion at somewhere around 120 pounds and he went against everyone in the gym. Piss funny watching him beat up heavyweights.
Yeah, it's really like any other sport in that if you're training a lot and compete at a quality level (not even pro per se) you would absolutely destroy someone who has little to no experience in that same sport. Obviously there is always a chance that someone could get lucky but the probability of that happening is so low, especially the higher up one's level is.
It reminds of some people who were saying they think that CM Punk would beat Floyd Mayweather in an MMA fight simply because he's bigger than Floyd and thus would just take him down. In my opinion, CM Punk would get absolutely destroyed by Mayweather in any fight that allowed Mayweather to throw punches.
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McGregor KO's this fool. Just like how Zion will posterize Conor's ass.
Conor fights for a living, huge difference.
Conor fights for a living, huge difference.

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Lol how is this 28 pages. I don't like McGregor so there's zero bias in that regard, but he's a pro fighter, he would absolutely destroy him.
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I will repeat it here:
- a street fight is not a duel, there are no rule and a clear set: no clear space, risk of other people jumping in, can start any moment, often with a sucker punch. No matter who you are, it's very dangerous to get involved into one
- there are dozens of videos of big guys getting worked by smaller ones. Whoever trained must have seen this multiple times, I've seen a 110-115kg 195cm rugby player who just started BJJ get easily worked by a 75k 180cm purple belt. If the trained guy has the space to move and time to understand the situation, it's very difficult then to rush him and finishing if you don't have any training
- it's very unlikely Conor would finish Zion in a few seconds or so. In the first few minutes, those strong and athletic guys are actually very difficult to fight, the strength advantage is such that you can't easily move them around when fresh. Moreover, if you let them get a good hold on you they can pick you up and slam you ala Sapp va Big Nog. It's much easier to control them until they gas out, something that would happen for sure in a few minutes
- a street fight is not a duel, there are no rule and a clear set: no clear space, risk of other people jumping in, can start any moment, often with a sucker punch. No matter who you are, it's very dangerous to get involved into one
- there are dozens of videos of big guys getting worked by smaller ones. Whoever trained must have seen this multiple times, I've seen a 110-115kg 195cm rugby player who just started BJJ get easily worked by a 75k 180cm purple belt. If the trained guy has the space to move and time to understand the situation, it's very difficult then to rush him and finishing if you don't have any training
- it's very unlikely Conor would finish Zion in a few seconds or so. In the first few minutes, those strong and athletic guys are actually very difficult to fight, the strength advantage is such that you can't easily move them around when fresh. Moreover, if you let them get a good hold on you they can pick you up and slam you ala Sapp va Big Nog. It's much easier to control them until they gas out, something that would happen for sure in a few minutes
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Ryoga Hibiki wrote:- it's very unlikely Conor would finish Zion in a few seconds or so
It's very unlikely that Conor wouldn't finish Zion in a few seconds or so. What would Zion do to prevent this? Run away maybe?
He have no skills to avoid hits of a pro fighter, neither skills to return hits to a pro fighter. And it's not like we need Conor in this argument at all. Every skilled pro fighter would finish him.
What will be next? If Zion can beat Michael Phelps in swimming? Ah, people ...

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This is McGregor finishing a legend in 13 seconds. Zion wouldn't see it coming either, the way elite guys can throw punches it takes a ton of training to be able to see and react to them.
emunney wrote:
We need a man shaped like a chicken nugget with the shot selection of a 21st birthday party.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
if you combined jabari parker, royal ivey, a shrimp and a ball sack youd have javon carter
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Zion might have a better chance of grabbing onto a guy a bit bigger. Little elite fighters are stupid quick.
emunney wrote:
We need a man shaped like a chicken nugget with the shot selection of a 21st birthday party.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
if you combined jabari parker, royal ivey, a shrimp and a ball sack youd have javon carter
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lol. People have no clue here. They don't understand that MMA fighters are trained to go after weak body spots: like joints, the neck, kidneys, etc.... That's independent of body type. No amount of bulk will help when McGregor attacks those areas and Zion is down on the ground writhing in pain. And McGregor is literally one of the best in the world at his craft.
This thread is silly, tbh. I mean, McGregor put up a much better than expected showing against Floyd Mayweather... the greatest fighter in the post-Ali era.
This thread is silly, tbh. I mean, McGregor put up a much better than expected showing against Floyd Mayweather... the greatest fighter in the post-Ali era.
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Who would want to see a 19 year kid fight a grown 31 year old man??
What's wrong with the world?
What's wrong with the world?
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Speadge wrote:It's very unlikely that Conor wouldn't finish Zion in a few seconds or so. What would Zion do to prevent this? Run away maybe?
He have no skills to avoid hits of a pro fighter, neither skills to return hits to a pro fighter. And it's not like we need Conor in this argument at all. Every skilled pro fighter would finish him.
What will be next? If Zion can beat Michael Phelps in swimming? Ah, people ...
Conor can do it but he would take some seriously unnecessary risk trying to do it.
Zion can pick him up and smash him on concrete, if he gets careless. He's still a much bigger guy.
A pro is likely going to let the inexperienced big guy gas out rather than go all out increasing the variance.
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AussieBuck wrote:This is McGregor finishing a legend in 13 seconds. Zion wouldn't see it coming either, the way elite guys can throw punches it takes a ton of training to be able to see and react to them.
I don’t even like Connor that much but his striking is absolute top notch world class. He hung in a boxing ring with an absolute legend one of the goats. The way he understands range and then pow that left hook is lethal, one of the most known weapons in mma history. People should watch Alonzo mourning and Larry johnson throw punches and tell me how anything will land on mcgregor lol. James johnson is a better bet than zion if you’re asking me
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