psimanic1 wrote:Didnt we release Jordan?
Yes, but he is still technically our free agent - unrestricted!
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psimanic1 wrote:Didnt we release Jordan?
skywalker33 wrote:Looks like Grant is leaning towards opting out of his PO, interesting decision to be made by the Nuggets FO
skywalker33 wrote:C - Jokic, Bol
PF - Grant, Millsap, Cancar
SF - Porter Jr, Bates-Diop, Craig
SG - Harris, Barton
PG - Murray, Morris, Dozier
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
TunaFish wrote:Not sure if this is the proper thread but:
"Nuggets have signed PJ Dozier to a full NBA contract to fill their final roster spot." https://www.denverstiffs.com/2020/6/24/21301954/report-nuggets-sign-two-way-guard-pj-dozier-to-nba-contract
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
NuggetsWY wrote:And I'm sorta' happy with what we have - overall
Coeur wrote:NuggetsWY wrote:And I'm sorta' happy with what we have - overall
I think you should consider a name change. Something symbolizing this main theme. At least get rid of the WY part for FoCo or NoCo. Anything more “Coloradan”
skywalker33 wrote:TunaFish wrote:Not sure if this is the proper thread but:
"Nuggets have signed PJ Dozier to a full NBA contract to fill their final roster spot." https://www.denverstiffs.com/2020/6/24/21301954/report-nuggets-sign-two-way-guard-pj-dozier-to-nba-contract
Interesting, thought Bol might get it but the FO might not see him as NBA-ready as Dozier. Also, think Dozier might fit our roster needs for the rest of the season but the real question is looming. We now have an open spot for another 2-way contract, whose our next star-in-the-making ??
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
skywalker33 wrote:skywalker33 wrote:TunaFish wrote:Not sure if this is the proper thread but:
"Nuggets have signed PJ Dozier to a full NBA contract to fill their final roster spot." https://www.denverstiffs.com/2020/6/24/21301954/report-nuggets-sign-two-way-guard-pj-dozier-to-nba-contract
Interesting, thought Bol might get it but the FO might not see him as NBA-ready as Dozier. Also, think Dozier might fit our roster needs for the rest of the season but the real question is looming. We now have an open spot for another 2-way contract, whose our next star-in-the-making ??
PF Tyler Cook rejoins the Nuggets on a 2-way contract, he showed some promise last SL but where does fit ?
NuggetsWY wrote:jayu70 wrote:Hawks fan here. If Grant opts out and becomes a FA, how much is Denver willing to pay to keep him?
With the new situation, it's hard to say. Just consider what Denver traded to get him. Then consider that he is our probably starter (which players love). It's possible a team could negotiate a deal with him that Denver won't match because he isn't a top-2 player for us and probably not top-3.
If Atlanta is interested, does that mean they are wanting him off the bench or do they want to replace Collins?
NYG wrote:NuggetsWY wrote:jayu70 wrote:Hawks fan here. If Grant opts out and becomes a FA, how much is Denver willing to pay to keep him?
With the new situation, it's hard to say. Just consider what Denver traded to get him. Then consider that he is our probably starter (which players love). It's possible a team could negotiate a deal with him that Denver won't match because he isn't a top-2 player for us and probably not top-3.
If Atlanta is interested, does that mean they are wanting him off the bench or do they want to replace Collins?
As a neutral fan (Knicks), I see Gary Harris to Atlanta as having sensibility especially with the Hawks ability to absorb salary difference and a weak unrestricted wing free agent market. I can’t quite put my finger on the appropriate value here though. Atlanta seems to be able to offer too much value or not enough without many gray area trade pieces.
Alatan wrote:Am Ithe only one that is really high on Bol? The kid seems like a really skilled player apart from being a physical freak. The only question marks with him are his health and his strength. The later might not be a weakness since I believe that he is probably better when playing the four spot. Something like Porzingis.
I''d really like to see him play the PF next to Jokic. He should probably be on minutes restriction until we are 100% sure his foot healed. Coming of the bench in a staggered lineup with Jokic would be awesome for the beginning. Twin towers part 2!
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
skywalker33 wrote:Alatan wrote:Am Ithe only one that is really high on Bol? The kid seems like a really skilled player apart from being a physical freak. The only question marks with him are his health and his strength. The later might not be a weakness since I believe that he is probably better when playing the four spot. Something like Porzingis.
I''d really like to see him play the PF next to Jokic. He should probably be on minutes restriction until we are 100% sure his foot healed. Coming of the bench in a staggered lineup with Jokic would be awesome for the beginning. Twin towers part 2!
I'd just like to see him at a healthy 255lbs (again), although a 255lb PF would have to play on the perimeter where Jokic usually plays, only his 7'1 height would give him a shot in the paint.
Alatan wrote:skywalker33 wrote:Alatan wrote:Am Ithe only one that is really high on Bol? The kid seems like a really skilled player apart from being a physical freak. The only question marks with him are his health and his strength. The later might not be a weakness since I believe that he is probably better when playing the four spot. Something like Porzingis.
I''d really like to see him play the PF next to Jokic. He should probably be on minutes restriction until we are 100% sure his foot healed. Coming of the bench in a staggered lineup with Jokic would be awesome for the beginning. Twin towers part 2!
I'd just like to see him at a healthy 255lbs (again), although a 255lb PF would have to play on the perimeter where Jokic usually plays, only his 7'1 height would give him a shot in the paint.
We could play 5 out. Imagine the spacing for cuts and drives. Imagine all the sick assists. Both Jokic and Bol could play either on the perimeter or the high post, with Jokic being able to play the low post too. The spacing with 2 stretch bigs would be a tactical dreamland for a playmaking savant such is Jokic. On the defensive side Bol is a tremendous shot blocker and weak side helper. As a 4 he would be slow to keep up with many wings and guards but his length more than makes up for it. Its not like Grant is good against wings or guards and we still make it work.
Bol is a really special player and i think the can work next to Jokic.
Alatan wrote:skywalker33 wrote:Alatan wrote:Am Ithe only one that is really high on Bol? The kid seems like a really skilled player apart from being a physical freak. The only question marks with him are his health and his strength. The later might not be a weakness since I believe that he is probably better when playing the four spot. Something like Porzingis.
I''d really like to see him play the PF next to Jokic. He should probably be on minutes restriction until we are 100% sure his foot healed. Coming of the bench in a staggered lineup with Jokic would be awesome for the beginning. Twin towers part 2!
I'd just like to see him at a healthy 255lbs (again), although a 255lb PF would have to play on the perimeter where Jokic usually plays, only his 7'1 height would give him a shot in the paint.
We could play 5 out. Imagine the spacing for cuts and drives. Imagine all the sick assists. Both Jokic and Bol could play either on the perimeter or the high post, with Jokic being able to play the low post too. The spacing with 2 stretch bigs would be a tactical dreamland for a playmaking savant such is Jokic. On the defensive side Bol is a tremendous shot blocker and weak side helper. As a 4 he would be slow to keep up with many wings and guards but his length more than makes up for it. Its not like Grant is good against wings or guards and we still make it work.
Bol is a really special player and i think the can work next to Jokic.
Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
skywalker33 wrote:Alatan wrote:skywalker33 wrote:I'd just like to see him at a healthy 255lbs (again), although a 255lb PF would have to play on the perimeter where Jokic usually plays, only his 7'1 height would give him a shot in the paint.
We could play 5 out. Imagine the spacing for cuts and drives. Imagine all the sick assists. Both Jokic and Bol could play either on the perimeter or the high post, with Jokic being able to play the low post too. The spacing with 2 stretch bigs would be a tactical dreamland for a playmaking savant such is Jokic. On the defensive side Bol is a tremendous shot blocker and weak side helper. As a 4 he would be slow to keep up with many wings and guards but his length more than makes up for it. Its not like Grant is good against wings or guards and we still make it work.
Bol is a really special player and i think the can work next to Jokic.
Yeah, like that idea as well, very intriguing. Wonder how Bol's passing skills are ?? Even so, I have faith in his outside shooting, rare for a guy his size. Talent is not Bol's question, heath and durability is...but we did hang out for MPJ, if Bol Bol hit too we can be set in the fronty court for the next decade. Even if Bol comes off the bench I'd be OK with that
NuggetsWY wrote:skywalker33 wrote:Alatan wrote:We could play 5 out. Imagine the spacing for cuts and drives. Imagine all the sick assists. Both Jokic and Bol could play either on the perimeter or the high post, with Jokic being able to play the low post too. The spacing with 2 stretch bigs would be a tactical dreamland for a playmaking savant such is Jokic. On the defensive side Bol is a tremendous shot blocker and weak side helper. As a 4 he would be slow to keep up with many wings and guards but his length more than makes up for it. Its not like Grant is good against wings or guards and we still make it work.
Bol is a really special player and i think the can work next to Jokic.
Yeah, like that idea as well, very intriguing. Wonder how Bol's passing skills are ?? Even so, I have faith in his outside shooting, rare for a guy his size. Talent is not Bol's question, heath and durability is...but we did hang out for MPJ, if Bol Bol hit too we can be set in the fronty court for the next decade. Even if Bol comes off the bench I'd be OK with that
I've watched everything I could find on Bol. My opinion:
He shoots 3s a little better than Jokic - but doesn't take a lot of 3s so when he shoots them, they are usually a solid choice. His 2pt shooting is exceptional considering he isn't muscling in for slam dunks. He doesn't draw many fouls, so I haven't seen him shoot FTs much. I expect he'll do well there based on his shooting form.
He's not a big-time rebounder but adding just 5-6 per game is acceptable IMO.
He doesn't get a lot of blocks, probably just a bit more than Jokic. His defense isn't as smooth as Jokic, who always seems to be in the right place, but he uses his height to block an occasional shot - he's very good at anticipating. As an added bonus, I haven't seem him commit "dumb fouls".
He doesn't do a lot of ball handling, probably because it takes so long for the ball to go from his hand to the floor and back. But he doesn't commit a lot of turnovers - nor does he get many assists. (More turnovers than assists, but not enough to be a problem for the Nuggets.)
Like Jokic, his game is based on his basketball IQ more than his physical abilities. I'm hoping he works out for us. If we retain Grant and Porter works out even close to what we expect - well, as Skywalker said, our front-court is looking pretty good (all based on three big "IFs").