2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably)

sco · Post #1561 » by **sco** » Sat Jul 4, 2020 6:07 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:Deni Avdija is now 10/21 from deep since returning to action. Don’t think he’ll be available to us unless we move up.

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Well, we might move up via just the lotto. He's not enough of a sure thing to me to give up anything meaningful (like a pick or one of our young guys), but Sato, Thad, Kornet - sure.

MrFortune3 · Post #1562 » by **MrFortune3** » Sun Jul 5, 2020 3:59 am

CoreyVillains wrote:Deni Avdija is now 10/21 from deep since returning to action. Don’t think he’ll be available to us unless we move up.

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What you mean to say is, his shot is not broken :lol:

Jcool0 · Post #1563 » by **Jcool0** » Sun Jul 5, 2020 9:58 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:Deni Avdija is now 10/21 from deep since returning to action. Don’t think he’ll be available to us unless we move up.

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I kind of want to know what is up with his FT shooting? On 6/29 he went 2-6 from the line. Its the one thing that doesn't seem to be improving for him.

Jvaughn · Post #1564 » by **Jvaughn** » Sun Jul 5, 2020 10:23 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:Deni Avdija is now 10/21 from deep since returning to action. Don’t think he’ll be available to us unless we move up.

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I kind of want to know what is up with his FT shooting? On 6/29 he went 2-6 from the line. Its the one thing that doesn't seem to be improving for him.

Which is very worrisome, since FT shooting is one of the best indicators we have for future shooting success.

MrFortune3 · Post #1565 » by **MrFortune3** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 1:03 am

Jvaughn wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:Deni Avdija is now 10/21 from deep since returning to action. Don’t think he’ll be available to us unless we move up.

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I kind of want to know what is up with his FT shooting? On 6/29 he went 2-6 from the line. Its the one thing that doesn't seem to be improving for him.

Which is very worrisome, since FT shooting is one of the best indicators we have for future shooting success.

A lot of times it's just some weird mental block the player has to get over.

CoreyVillains · Post #1566 » by **CoreyVillains** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 1:50 pm

Just dropped My Isaac Okoro breakdown on my YouTube. Man I wish this dude had a jumper lol. Love his intangibles and defense.

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JohnnyKILLroy · Post #1567 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 2:09 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped My Isaac Okoro breakdown on my YouTube. Man I wish this dude had a jumper lol. Love his intangibles and defense.

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I think it’s likely he’ll get a jumper.

Do you?

sco · Post #1568 » by **sco** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 4:58 pm

JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped My Isaac Okoro breakdown on my YouTube. Man I wish this dude had a jumper lol. Love his intangibles and defense.

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I think it’s likely he’ll get a jumper.

Do you?

Statistically, most don't go from broke jumper to good jumper...you'd think more could

CoreyVillains · Post #1569 » by **CoreyVillains** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 6:26 pm

JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped My Isaac Okoro breakdown on my YouTube. Man I wish this dude had a jumper lol. Love his intangibles and defense.

Watch on YouTube

I think it’s likely he’ll get a jumper.

Do you?

I think he’ll probably end up decent from the corners but I don’t think he’ll ever develop a consistent off the bounce game.

Jvaughn · Post #1570 » by **Jvaughn** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 6:34 pm

sco wrote:
JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped My Isaac Okoro breakdown on my YouTube. Man I wish this dude had a jumper lol. Love his intangibles and defense.

Watch on YouTube

I think it’s likely he’ll get a jumper.

Do you?

Statistically, most don't go from broke jumper to good jumper...you'd think more could

Yeah, outside of Kawhi I can't recall one in the last decade that has made that jump.

JohnnyKILLroy · Post #1571 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 6:39 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:
JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped My Isaac Okoro breakdown on my YouTube. Man I wish this dude had a jumper lol. Love his intangibles and defense.

Watch on YouTube

I think it’s likely he’ll get a jumper.

Do you?

I think he’ll probably end up decent from the corners but I don’t think he’ll ever develop a consistent off the bounce game.

I could see catch and shoot on good percentages around the arc but off the bounce he probably won't have that

sco · Post #1572 » by **sco** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 6:46 pm

Jvaughn wrote:
sco wrote:
JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
I think it’s likely he’ll get a jumper.

Do you?

Statistically, most don't go from broke jumper to good jumper...you'd think more could

Yeah, outside of Kawhi I can't recall one in the last decade that has made that jump.

I'd give Butler credit too. It may be too soon,but Ball too.

JohnnyKILLroy · Post #1573 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 8:14 pm

sco wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
sco wrote:Statistically, most don't go from broke jumper to good jumper...you'd think more could

Yeah, outside of Kawhi I can't recall one in the last decade that has made that jump.

I'd give Butler credit too. It may be too soon,but Ball too.

Mad props to Lonzo and the work he’s put in on that J.

Jvaughn · Post #1574 » by **Jvaughn** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 8:46 pm

sco wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
sco wrote:Statistically, most don't go from broke jumper to good jumper...you'd think more could

Yeah, outside of Kawhi I can't recall one in the last decade that has made that jump.

I'd give Butler credit too. It may be too soon,but Ball too.

That's fair as well. Almost forgot about Jimmy.

Jvaughn · Post #1575 » by **Jvaughn** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 8:47 pm

JohnnyKILLroy wrote:
sco wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
Yeah, outside of Kawhi I can't recall one in the last decade that has made that jump.

I'd give Butler credit too. It may be too soon,but Ball too.

Mad props to Lonzo and the work he’s put in on that J.

Lonzo was really starting to turn it on when the season ended. Looked like he was on the upward swing and still might be on the way to his ceiling.

ImSlower · Post #1576 » by **ImSlower** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 8:58 pm

Lonzo turns out to be a pretty fun player to watch with his nice new jumper and his caricature father not being given a platform (**** you ESPN as usual). It's pretty wild to look at the difference in form. Much respect, and coming from a guy who was really, really down on the dude and his circus career beginning.

drosereturn · Post #1577 » by **drosereturn** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 9:12 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
I kind of want to know what is up with his FT shooting? On 6/29 he went 2-6 from the line. Its the one thing that doesn't seem to be improving for him.

Which is very worrisome, since FT shooting is one of the best indicators we have for future shooting success.

A lot of times it's just some weird mental block the player has to get over.

Pretty much this. Some players have mental blocks and it seems although Deni is mentally strong, he kinda fazed out during fts which has been seen many cases in the NBA. He is not someone that draws 10 times and hes shooting 55% on such a limited sample size wouldnt be worried that much as long as he can hit open 3s and midrange.

I still project Deni to be at least an avg shooter/35% career 3s and a lot better than Okoro whose jumper is much more broken.

Andi Obst · Post #1578 » by **Andi Obst** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 9:15 pm

Jvaughn wrote:Lonzo was really starting to turn it on when the season ended. Looked like he was on the upward swing and still might be on the way to his ceiling.

Lonzo already had a good season and then Zion came in. They just have a special connection out there. Really looking forward to watching the Pelicans play in Orlando (and I hope they make the playoffs).

Rose2Boozer · Post #1579 » by **Rose2Boozer** » Tue Jul 7, 2020 12:10 am

Without the benefit of a NCAA tournament bump, this could be the draft of second round sleepers. I like a lot of the guys that could go in the second round just as much as some prospects in the top ten.

Jared Butler:

Watch on YouTube

othawhitemeat · Post #1580 » by **othawhitemeat** » Tue Jul 7, 2020 12:31 am

Rose2Boozer wrote:Without the benefit of a NCAA tournament bump, this could be the draft of second round sleepers. I like a lot of the guys that could go in the second round just as much as some prospects in the top ten.

Jared Butler:

Watch on YouTube

I like him in 2nd as a hard nose defense and solid shooter. A little worried about his low assist totals for his height. I would not be disappointed but like other prospects in our range better.