NBA - The Re-Open: - Connaughton has Covid-19, pg. 94

[HKPackFan]

The NBA will have problems if Covid develops in the bubble in three weeks.

Right now though, about 30 guys now understand that they’ve got Covid, who wouldn’t otherwise. That’s not a bad thing.

And if they have Covid, they probably didn’t get it from working out at the center but from either being crazy unlucky or not engaging in safe behavior outside of the practice center.

Up to the players to figure out if they still want a league. Up to the NBA to see whether they are willing to invest the cash in a real bubble. Either one can derail this thing. Their choice.

Here's the problem with the Bucks/NBA protocol and why it will likely infect the bubble

So, they just found a positive test in the Bucks crew of players/coaches/staff. So, that one person or multiple people stay back in Milwaukee to quarantine until they are able to produce two negative tests. Sounds, ok, so far.

But, then the rest of the team/party is sent down to Orlando under the assumption that nobody else will test positive in the coming days. It takes anywhere from 3-14 days to produce a positive test after being exposed. It's highly unlikely that the positive person in the Bucks party gave it to zero people in the rest of the practice environment.

So, they are basically, blindly, sending potential future positives into the bubble by not quarantining the entire team/party.

I want to see this season continue more than anything, I just don't know how this is going to actually work.

Usually though they can determine who was the positive test and who was around them or exposed to them. Then classify people as high risk, medium risk, low risk.

We had a positive test at our gym back in March, and they went through the cameras to see who used the gym AFTER he was there, who used the gym WHILE he was there...Who was within 6 ft, who used the same equipment, etc.

They also shut down the gym, notified everyone, and talked to people case by case. They categorized people by high risk, low risk, etc.

I had left before he arrived. Yet my friend was there at the same time, but was in the yoga room and used a different exit and was cleared. Then someone had a case in a movie theatre the next day and it was around the same time i was there. So I got spooked and got tested. The clinic told me I'm low risk and I got the test within 24hrs with a negative. And the exposure was on a sunday and I got tested on a thursday (they notified everyone either that Wed or thur).

I think you can do it 2 ways.

#1) Deem everyone high risk and make everyone quarantined for 2 weeks inside a hotel room in disney and test on the 1st day and 14th day. Isolate everyone or at least families together. #2) Or do risk assessment and quarantine those who had high to medium risk of exposure, although everyone gets tested on the 1st, 7th and 14th day. Something to that effect.

[EastSideBucksFan]

The NBA will have problems if Covid develops in the bubble in three weeks.

Right now though, about 30 guys now understand that they’ve got Covid, who wouldn’t otherwise. That’s not a bad thing.

And if they have Covid, they probably didn’t get it from working out at the center but from either being crazy unlucky or not engaging in safe behavior outside of the practice center.

Up to the players to figure out if they still want a league. Up to the NBA to see whether they are willing to invest the cash in a real bubble. Either one can derail this thing. Their choice.

Here's the problem with the Bucks/NBA protocol and why it will likely infect the bubble

So, they just found a positive test in the Bucks crew of players/coaches/staff. So, that one person or multiple people stay back in Milwaukee to quarantine until they are able to produce two negative tests. Sounds, ok, so far.

But, then the rest of the team/party is sent down to Orlando under the assumption that nobody else will test positive in the coming days. It takes anywhere from 3-14 days to produce a positive test after being exposed. It's highly unlikely that the positive person in the Bucks party gave it to zero people in the rest of the practice environment.

So, they are basically, blindly, sending potential future positives into the bubble by not quarantining the entire team/party.

I want to see this season continue more than anything, I just don't know how this is going to actually work.

Usually though they can determine who was the positive test and who was around them or exposed to them. Then classify people as high risk, medium risk, low risk.

We had a positive test at our gym back in March, and they went through the cameras to see who used the gym AFTER he was there, who used the gym WHILE he was there...Who was within 6 ft, who used the same equipment, etc.

They also shut down the gym, notified everyone, and talked to people case by case. They categorized people by high risk, low risk, etc.

I had left before he arrived. Yet my friend was there at the same time, but was in the yoga room and used a different exit and was cleared. Then someone had a case in a movie theatre the next day and it was around the same time i was there. So I got spooked and got tested. The clinic told me I'm low risk and I got the test within 24hrs with a negative. And the exposure was on a sunday and I got tested on a thursday (they notified everyone either that Wed or thur).

I think you can do it 2 ways.

#1) Deem everyone high risk and make everyone quarantined for 2 weeks inside a hotel room in disney and test on the 1st day and 14th day. Isolate everyone or at least families together. #2) Or do risk assessment and quarantine those who had high to medium risk of exposure, although everyone gets tested on the 1st, 7th and 14th day. Something to that effect.

First, I'm insanely jealous at the contact tracing protocol you have in place in Hong Kong. I have not heard of any specific efforts here in US to do what you described.

I want to believe and I think the NBA is doing a better job than the general govt practices. But, in creating a bubble environment, with a little over two weeks before any scrimmages and games, I don't understand rushing the entire team down there. Even if they just held them back for a week, it would lead to a safer bubble. Once the virus is in there, it is going to be a much more difficult to contain.

[Chuck Diesel]

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[emunney]

Seems like teams are not too eager to stay in the bubble for the right to get their asses kicked by a very annoyed Giannis.

[Chuck Diesel]

Think there needs to be a distinction between Beal & Dinwiddie. No problem with Beal dropping out, but the “shoulder injury” is a phony cover up to ensure he gets his money. Dinwiddie has Corona and is still experiencing multiple symptoms. Dinwiddie wanted to play, Beal didn’t.

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[HurricaneKid]

Think there needs to be a distinction between Beal & Dinwiddie. No problem with Beal dropping out, but the “shoulder injury” is a phony cover up to ensure he gets his money. Dinwiddie has Corona and is still experiencing multiple symptoms. Dinwiddie wanted to play, Beal didn’t.

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With Kyrie, KD, and Dinwiddie out the Nets won't have a ball handler or primary scorer outside of Levert. There is every reason to believe Wash could have caught them and forced a playoff. Lowe discussed it on his pod. Beal bailing is really closer to a star bailing than I thought we would get and especially considering his opportunity to sneak into the playoffs is really too bad for the game.

But for the Bucks, I rather like the bye into the 2nd ed, especially considering the likelihood of a 76ers matchup. Despite the record, it's a talented team with fresh legs. I would much rather see Mia/Ind.



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[Chuck Diesel]

Think there needs to be a distinction between Beal & Dinwiddie. No problem with Beal dropping out, but the “shoulder injury” is a phony cover up to ensure he gets his money. Dinwiddie has Corona and is still experiencing multiple symptoms. Dinwiddie wanted to play, Beal didn’t.

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With Kyrie, KD, and Dinwiddie out the Nets won't have a ball handler or primary scorer outside of Levert. There is every reason to believe Wash could have caught them and forced a playoff. Lowe discussed it on his pod. Beal bailing is really closer to a star bailing than I thought we would get and especially considering his opportunity to sneak into the playoffs is really too bad for the game.

But for the Bucks, I rather like the bye into the 2nd ed, especially considering the likelihood of a 76ers matchup. Despite the record, it's a talented team with fresh legs. I would much rather see Mia/Ind.



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Chris Chiozza does have a lot of experience playing against the Herd this year. Potential X factor.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Will the scrimmages be broad casted?

[emunney]

Here's the problem with the Bucks/NBA protocol and why it will likely infect the bubble

So, they just found a positive test in the Bucks crew of players/coaches/staff. So, that one person or multiple people stay back in Milwaukee to quarantine until they are able to produce two negative tests. Sounds, ok, so far.

But, then the rest of the team/party is sent down to Orlando under the assumption that nobody else will test positive in the coming days. It takes anywhere from 3-14 days to produce a positive test after being exposed. It's highly unlikely that the positive person in the Bucks party gave it to zero people in the rest of the practice environment.

So, they are basically, blindly, sending potential future positives into the bubble by not quarantining the entire team/party.

I want to see this season continue more than anything, I just don't know how this is going to actually work.

Usually though they can determine who was the positive test and who was around them or exposed to them. Then classify people as high risk, medium risk, low risk.

We had a positive test at our gym back in March, and they went through the cameras to see who used the gym AFTER he was there, who used the gym WHILE he was there...Who was within 6 ft, who used the same equipment, etc.

They also shut down the gym, notified everyone, and talked to people case by case. They categorized people by high risk, low risk, etc.

I had left before he arrived. Yet my friend was there at the same time, but was in the yoga room and used a different exit and was cleared. Then someone had a case in a movie theatre the next day and it was around the same time i was there. So I got spooked and got tested. The clinic told me I'm low risk and I got the test within 24hrs with a negative. And the exposure was on a sunday and I got tested on a thursday (they notified everyone either that Wed or thur).

I think you can do it 2 ways.

#1) Deem everyone high risk and make everyone quarantined for 2 weeks inside a hotel room in disney and test on the 1st day and 14th day. Isolate everyone or at least families together. #2) Or do risk assessment and quarantine those who had high to medium risk of exposure, although everyone gets tested on the 1st, 7th and 14th day. Something to that effect.

First, I'm insanely jealous at the contact tracing protocol you have in place in Hong Kong. I have not heard of any specific efforts here in US to do what you described.

I want to believe and I think the NBA is doing a better job than the general govt practices. But, in creating a bubble environment, with a little over two weeks before any scrimmages and games, I don't understand rushing the entire team down there. Even if they just held them back for a week, it would lead to a safer bubble. Once the virus is in there, it is going to be a much more difficult to contain.

There are sound contact tracing efforts underway in many states and municipalities -- in Wisconsin I believe it's managed at the county level. It's not complicated or sexy. You probably wouldn't know about it unless you got a call.

[emunney]

Has anybody figured out the logic behind Dipo going in the bubble and not playing? Stay home dingus

[midranger]

Has anybody figured out the logic behind Dipo going in the bubble and not playing? Stay home dingus

I’ve been told the bubble is safer than home. Many are saying.

[skbucks1985]

They talked a little bit about Oladipo on Windhorst's podcast last week. I certainly got the sense that there was more to this story than has publicly been disclosed.

[paulpressey25]

They talked a little bit about Oladipo on Windhorst's podcast last week. I certainly got the sense that there was more to this story than has publicly been disclosed.

I don't think the guy wants to get injured going into a contract year. He's probably massively out of shape and knows it.

[paulpressey25]

Just trying to imagine the giddiness we and Herb Kohl would have if this was say a 2004-2013 era team going into Orlando, right on the cusp of the 8th seed.

"With the Wiz and Nets basically conceding, I know we can get that 8th slot, and LeBron might get Covid so we'd have a shot"

Meanwhile Woelfel would be reporting that Richard Jefferson might not play for the Bucks due to fear of the bubble or something.

[emunney]

Just trying to imagine the giddiness we and Herb Kohl would have if this was say a 2004-2013 era team going into Orlando, right on the cusp of the 8th seed.

"With the Wiz and Nets basically conceding, I know we can get that 8th slot, and LeBron might get Covid so we'd have a shot"

Meanwhile Woelfel would be reporting that Richard Jefferson might not play for the Bucks due to fear of the bubble or something.

Richard Jefferson retires to "become an actuary", signs with the Lakers 4 days later.

[drew881]

Just trying to imagine the giddiness we and Herb Kohl would have if this was say a 2004-2013 era team going into Orlando, right on the cusp of the 8th seed.

"With the Wiz and Nets basically conceding, I know we can get that 8th slot, and LeBron might get Covid so we'd have a shot"

Meanwhile Woelfel would be reporting that Richard Jefferson might not play for the Bucks due to fear of the bubble or something.

Richard Jefferson retires to "become an actuary", signs with the Lakers 4 days later.

Richard Jefferson contracts COVID at pool party

[ReasonablySober]

The Nets are a clear example of why this re-start should have been 16 teams, or, preferably eight.

[Chuck Diesel]

The Nets are a clear example of why this re-start should have been 16 teams, or, preferably eight.

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[JayMKE]

NBA playoffs should be 8 teams period, it's just a pathetic money grab to have over half the league in the playoffs when the chances of those lower seeds winning are essentially nil.