PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics]

[HeartBreakKid]

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I had to triple fact check this... What the actual ****

It's hard to put together the words that could justifiable make fun of this.

[Dr Positivity]

On the redraftables it was bizarre finding out Thaddeus has 2nd most points in 2007 draft

[trex_8063]

Happy Father's Day all you fellow papas.

[trex_8063]

Not sure if I've mentioned it here before, but another one of my pastime passions is cinema. Very interested in cinema history, and absolutely adore old movies of all kinds.
I bring it up because the most recent old movie I watched happened to be Odds Against Tomorrow (1959), directed by *Robert Wise. Amidst the BLM movement, it felt so timely, despite having been made over 60 years ago. Aesthetically it's slightly like a film noir style, and centers around an impending bank heist; but in a more broad sense it's largely about racism and prejudice, with a very overt message/moral in the metaphorical ending.

Extraordinarily proactive film for the time-period, and even a bit proactive in the cast/crew and billing: Harry Belafonte (black) is given equal billing with co-star Robert Ryan (white, and the more established/famous actor) in the opening titles [with Belafonte's name coming on screen first], John Lewis (black jazz pianist) does the musical score, etc.


*Robert Wise is one of my all-time favorite directors, whose career in the director's chair spans something like five decades. Just a brilliant story-teller who was uniquely versatile: he directed everything from some of the best and most well-known [classics] sci-fi pictures of "*the day" (*as nearly three decades separate them, "the day" is different for each), such as The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) and Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979).......to some of the most beloved musicals of the 60s, such as West Side Story (1961) and The Sound of Music (1965).........to other tense sci-fi/thrillers like The Andromeda Strain (1971).......to historical fictions like The Sand Pebbles (1966) and The Hindenburg (1975).

And now I've also seen from him relevant [still!] sociopolitical dramas like Odds Against Tomorrow. Amazing film maker.

[Dr Positivity]

I remember Fury (1936) being very good and I would be interested in rewatching it with the cancellation culture mob going on right now

[Doctor MJ]

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I had to triple fact check this... What the actual ****

It's amazing that human beings can convince themselves to be this backward. Animals aren't capable of being this stupid.

[Goudelock]

It's amazing that human beings can convince themselves to be this backward. Animals aren't capable of being this stupid.

You've obviously never met my puppy.

[Clyde Frazier]

Not sure if I've mentioned it here before, but another one of my pastime passions is cinema. Very interested in cinema history, and absolutely adore old movies of all kinds.
I bring it up because the most recent old movie I watched happened to be Odds Against Tomorrow (1959), directed by *Robert Wise. Amidst the BLM movement, it felt so timely, despite having been made over 60 years ago. Aesthetically it's slightly like a film noir style, and centers around an impending bank heist; but in a more broad sense it's largely about racism and prejudice, with a very overt message/moral in the metaphorical ending.

Extraordinarily proactive film for the time-period, and even a bit proactive in the cast/crew and billing: Harry Belafonte (black) is given equal billing with co-star Robert Ryan (white, and the more established/famous actor) in the opening titles [with Belafonte's name coming on screen first], John Lewis (black jazz pianist) does the musical score, etc.


*Robert Wise is one of my all-time favorite directors, whose career in the director's chair spans something like five decades. Just a brilliant story-teller who was uniquely versatile: he directed everything from some of the best and most well-known [classics] sci-fi pictures of "*the day" (*as nearly three decades separate them, "the day" is different for each), such as The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) and Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979).......to some of the most beloved musicals of the 60s, such as West Side Story (1961) and The Sound of Music (1965).........to other tense sci-fi/thrillers like The Andromeda Strain (1971).......to historical fictions like The Sand Pebbles (1966) and The Hindenburg (1975).

And now I've also seen from him relevant [still!] sociopolitical dramas like Odds Against Tomorrow. Amazing film maker.

FYI if you have access to HBO max, they have a "classics curated by TCM" section with a huge selection of movies.

To see if you have access: https://www.hbomax.com/do-i-already-have-access

[Texas Chuck]

Finally watched Uncut Gems. Man what a pile of meh that was. And KG was fine, but I didn't think he or Sandler gave particularly inspiring performances.

If you want to watch a quality Sandler movie that goes against type, watch Punchdrunk Love.

[ardee]

TIL Daryl Morey literally invented TS% as a stat.

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[MyUniBroDavis]

I Hate Ice.

[Bidofo]

My goodness what a tool Stephen Jackson is. He's doubled down.

[Clyde Frazier]

My goodness what a tool Stephen Jackson is. He's doubled down.

Is he still on The Jump? I sadly don't expect Nichols and co to call him out.

Edit: thanks for proving me wrong, Rachel. Pablo Torre also spoke out as well as a few others. Still disappointed in the overall response on the player side.

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Around the horn had a good discussion too:

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[MyUniBroDavis]

This might be a crappy thing to say, but its pretty annoying us international students got crapped on for quarentining and wearing masks and now we r about to get deported to "save america" when we are the ones who took it seriously like every other damn country and didnt go "haha u only live once" and think that masks are a damn political statement

[Dr Positivity]

Incredibly disappointed in Stephen Jackson.

[limbo]

I respect Stephen Jackson for at least standing his ground and having the balls to double down on how he really feels. I was about to say 'thinks' instead of 'feels', but the difference between the two words is crucial in helping us understand the crux of the problem, which ties into how society has been exponentially pushing people to act on their feelings/emotions by tapping into their primal instincts and various -isms (primarily with motivations of gaining political power/control), instead of encouraging the use of the main thing that separates us from the rest of the species on this planet; that is our brain's ability to reason.

While striving for an idealistic utopia has certainly got us to the point we are now as human beings, that does not mean how we think the World 'should be' in an ideal scenario (everybody playing on the same team) is really the way it 'is', or ever will be, for that matter. Human beings have always formed tribes in our past, based on sharing the same traits. Thus, it's natural for someone to defend their tribe, no matter how hypocritical/irrational their actions come off. Like, thinking logically about this probably wasn't even conducive to survival in the past... There was no survivalist benefits from trying to figure out if your actions against a certain group of people are morally justified or not... you just did what you had to for your own tribe to flourish, or invite risk of being usurped.

Anyway, thinking these tribalistic instincts that were foundational for who knows how many years of our evolution will just disappear if we chant a slogan enough times is absurd. Those in power's idea to remedy this is by simply silencing, canceling, instilling fear, thought controlling etc... Which is why most people just avoid any potential risk by parroting whatever they have to just to be left alone, but deep down inside, you and i both know most people have their own agenda.

I think more people should be doing what Stephen Jackson did. Say what you truly believe, and then we use said information to have a discussion about these topics and educate/find common ground.

This is the exact opposite of what is actually happening right now in the World. People don't speak their true thoughts because of potential risk/backlash, and those in politics and media use this very notion to their advantage to brainswash people into turning against each other which gives them opportunity to control and push forward fabricated agendas.

Honestly, i can't take most people's statements seriously anymore because most are literally scared programmed NPC's whom critical thought doesn't extend past ''ORANGE MAN BAD'', ''POLICEMAN EVIL''...

[Dr Positivity]

I respect Stephen Jackson for at least standing his ground and having the balls to double down on how he really feels. I was about to say 'thinks' instead of 'feels', but the difference between the two words is crucial in helping us understand the crux of the problem, which ties into how society has been exponentially pushing people to act on their feelings/emotions by tapping into their primal instincts and various -isms (primarily with motivations of gaining political power/control), instead of encouraging the use of the main thing that separates us from the rest of the species on this planet; that is our brain's ability to reason.

While striving for an idealistic utopia has certainly got us to the point we are now as human beings, that does not mean how we think the World 'should be' in an ideal scenario (everybody playing on the same team) is really the way it 'is', or ever will be, for that matter. Human beings have always formed tribes in our past, based on sharing the same traits. Thus, it's natural for someone to defend their tribe, no matter how hypocritical/irrational their actions come off. Like, thinking logically about this probably wasn't even conducive to survival in the past... There was no survivalist benefits from trying to figure out if your actions against a certain group of people are morally justified or not... you just did what you had to for your own tribe to flourish, or invite risk of being usurped.

Anyway, thinking these tribalistic instincts that were foundational for who knows how many years of our evolution will just disappear if we chant a slogan enough times is absurd. Those in power's idea to remedy this is by simply silencing, canceling, instilling fear, thought controlling etc... Which is why most people just avoid any potential risk by parroting whatever they have to just to be left alone, but deep down inside, you and i both know most people have their own agenda.

I think more people should be doing what Stephen Jackson did. Say what you truly believe, and then we use said information to have a discussion about these topics and educate/find common ground.

This is the exact opposite of what is actually happening right now in the World. People don't speak their true thoughts because of potential risk/backlash, and those in politics and media use this very notion to their advantage to brainswash people into turning against each other which gives them opportunity to control and push forward fabricated agendas.

Honestly, i can't take most people's statements seriously anymore because most are literally scared programmed NPC's whom critical thought doesn't extend past ''ORANGE MAN BAD'', ''POLICEMAN EVIL''...

I agree with the sentiment as a whole, but comments like Jackson and DeSean's should be among the few things we should cancel someone for in my opinion. You can't go around posting quotes that start with "Hitler said" or "Hitler was right" in it. One of the problems with everyone getting called racist (even for things like not having a diverse enoughs staff) is that when real racists like DeSean and Jackson come along it risks people being desensitized to it. It can't be understated just how racist DeSean's post was. Imagine if Brees posted a N word laden quote from Robert E Lee about how slavery should exist and whites should rule the earth. He would not only be cut within hours and never play football again but his name would be utterly toxic to even mention from that point forward. That's the equivalent of what DeSean posted about jewish people. I am fully in support of free speech but there's a limit when it comes to extreme hate speech.

[penbeast0]

Why is Robert E Lee suddenly the poster boy for being a racist? (Just earlier today read another similar post putting up Lee as the poster boy for racism too.) The VIrginia founding fathers like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson had slaves aqnd most of the Confederate leadership were strongly, even violently pro-slavery. Lee actually freed most of his family's slaves and wrote that slavery was wrong. Yes, he was a Confederate but Lee was a principled man who was more enlightened than his peers, not less. Why not use someone like Nathan Bedford Forrest?

[HeartBreakKid]

Why is Robert E Lee suddenly the poster boy for being a racist? (Just earlier today read another similar post putting up Lee as the poster boy for racism too.) The VIrginia founding fathers like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson had slaves aqnd most of the Confederate leadership were strongly, even violently pro-slavery. Lee actually freed most of his family's slaves and wrote that slavery was wrong. Yes, he was a Confederate but Lee was a principled man who was more enlightened than his peers, not less. Why not use someone like Nathan Bedford Forrest?

Because people know who Robert E Lee is - and of course because he fought for the Confederacy.