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Post#921 » by robillionaire » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:44 am

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He's gonna be a 2k legend


he already is galaxy opal lamelo is already the best pg in the game :lol:

I'm trying to master his release so I have it down when I use the knicks in 2k21

i'm running him lonzo and okongwu on my triple threat team got that whole 35-0 2016 chino hills theme
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Post#923 » by Worst_to_First » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:48 am

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Awesome highlights.

This is what I watch to convince myself on LaMelo as the #1 guy while ignoring what his weaknesses are, what his shooting percentages are, what the quality of competition was and how down his team was versus the opponents.
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Post#924 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:15 am

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Awesome highlights.

This is what I watch to convince myself on LaMelo as the #1 guy while ignoring what his weaknesses are, what his shooting percentages are, what the quality of competition was and how down his team was versus the opponents.

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Post#925 » by robillionaire » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:20 am

pretty ironic coming from the wiseman camp seeing as how he's only played against 1 competitive team in his career and he played bad and they lost but ya'll have no problem overlooking that because you can see talent
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Post#926 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:24 am

robillionaire wrote:pretty ironic coming from the wiseman camp seeing as how he's only played against 1 competitive team in his career and he played bad and they lost but ya'll have no problem overlooking that because you can see talent


You do realize all the top prospects are coming from losing situations, right?

Wiseman is a stud man. I remember people killing Ja last year like their eyes were lying to them. We don’t need to reconfigure our team building plans to select him (maybe) cuz we have Mitch whos a stud in his own right but the dude isn’t going to be Michael Olowakandi.
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Post#927 » by robillionaire » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:25 am

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robillionaire wrote:pretty ironic coming from the wiseman camp seeing as how he's only played against 1 competitive team in his career and he played bad and they lost but ya'll have no problem overlooking that because you can see talent


You do realize all the top prospects are coming from losing situations, right?

Wiseman is a stud man. I remember people killing Ja last year like they’re eyes were lying to them. We don’t need to reconfigure our team building plans to select him (maybe) cuz we have Mitch whos a stud in his own right but the dude isn’t going to be Michael Olowakandi.


I actually like wiseman I'm just pointing out the double standards here
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Post#928 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:26 am

robillionaire wrote:pretty ironic coming from the wiseman camp seeing as how he's only played against 1 competitive team in his career and he played bad and they lost but ya'll have no problem overlooking that because you can see talent

LaMelo shooting 30% against washed up players who couldn’t make it in the league is def worthy of the #1 pick. No doubt about it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#929 » by robillionaire » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:27 am

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robillionaire wrote:pretty ironic coming from the wiseman camp seeing as how he's only played against 1 competitive team in his career and he played bad and they lost but ya'll have no problem overlooking that because you can see talent

LaMelo shooting 30% against washed up players who couldn’t make it in the league is def worthy of the #1 pick. No doubt about it. :lol: :lol: :lol:


yes that is indeed what draft experts are saying maybe there's a reason for that idk
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Post#930 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:30 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:
robillionaire wrote:pretty ironic coming from the wiseman camp seeing as how he's only played against 1 competitive team in his career and he played bad and they lost but ya'll have no problem overlooking that because you can see talent

LaMelo shooting 30% against washed up players who couldn’t make it in the league is def worthy of the #1 pick. No doubt about it. :lol: :lol: :lol:


yes that is indeed what draft experts are saying maybe there's a reason for that idk

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Post#931 » by Fat » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:04 am

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Awesome highlights.

This is what I watch to convince myself on LaMelo as the #1 guy while ignoring what his weaknesses are, what his shooting percentages are, what the quality of competition was and how down his team was versus the opponents.


Lamelos team sucked before lamelo joined them lmao that team is in rebuilding mode and had a mixture of old veterans mixed with up and coming players they weren’t expected to be good with or without lamelo.

All prospects have weaknesses there is no perfect player in the draft lamelo is easily the most skilled and probably would automatically be the Knicks most skilled player even with the shooting concern not sure how many other players you can say that about which is why he is still the #1 to me

None of them seem to appealing in the shooting department. Obi and hailburton are the only ones spraying it at a efficient clip. Deni seems to have gotten practice in while the season was on hold

Outside of that nah they are all trash at shooting until proven other wise Lol

y’all just play favorites Which is fine everyone likes somebody. Lamelo to me is the most talented by a long shot not the most efficient clearly but from a pure talent perspective he’s elite in the categories needed to be a floor general. but I’m not against any other guards either I just don’t really care Who we select after lamelo is gone.

Edwards I like (very comfortable taking him) even though I feel he kind of overlaps Rj
Hayes is a project
Cole is a wild card
Hailburton gives role play vibes
Deni is cool probably a project
Obi is apparently “to old they say” lol
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Post#932 » by robillionaire » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:23 am

you could easily tear down anybody in this draft if suggested they should be the #1 pick but somebody has to get it
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Post#933 » by Worst_to_First » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:48 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
robillionaire wrote:pretty ironic coming from the wiseman camp seeing as how he's only played against 1 competitive team in his career and he played bad and they lost but ya'll have no problem overlooking that because you can see talent

LaMelo shooting 30% against washed up players who couldn’t make it in the league is def worthy of the #1 pick. No doubt about it. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I actually like LaMelo but am still in the process of trying to convert myself to liking him over Wiseman, basically trying to understand and follow the herd. Am failing miserably in this but am trying.

Hoping to achieve this by just watching LaMelo’s highlights and avoiding the weakness videos and the rest. He looks amazing but if there is one thing that bothers me is that I think there are limitations to his athleticism which will make things hard for him to be an efficient scorer at the NBA level. His double clutch layups that he is doing will be easily blocked by better players. Also I think him having trouble against RJ Hampton may be a sign of things to come when he has to contend with the more athletic guards in the league.

I actually like Lavar as I have followed the family closely but if there is one thing about him to watch out for is that he is very cerebral and can run circles around most people. His moves are calculated and there is a reason LaMelo played in the league he played in. It is one that can highlight his strengths but at the same time also mask his weaknesses.

Lavar and his family is also one that have been very lucky as seen in how the ping pong balls bounced in favor of Lonzo landing in his hometown Lakers while Magic was basically pulled into drafting him and basically anointing him as the next great Laker who would shatter his records.

I think luck can land LaMelo into his desired team. Let’s just hope in this situation it works out for everyone.
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Post#934 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:57 am

Worst_to_First wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
robillionaire wrote:pretty ironic coming from the wiseman camp seeing as how he's only played against 1 competitive team in his career and he played bad and they lost but ya'll have no problem overlooking that because you can see talent

LaMelo shooting 30% against washed up players who couldn’t make it in the league is def worthy of the #1 pick. No doubt about it. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I actually like LaMelo but am still in the process of trying to convert myself to liking him over Wiseman, basically trying to understand and follow the herd. Am failing miserably in this but am trying.

Hoping to achieve this by just watching LaMelo’s highlights and avoiding the weakness videos and the rest. He looks amazing but if there is one thing that bothers me is that I think there are limitations to his athleticism which will make things hard for him to be an efficient scorer at the NBA level. His double clutch layups that he is doing will be easily blocked by better players. Also I think him having trouble against RJ Hampton may be a sign of things to come when he has to contend with the more athletic guards in the league.

I actually like Lavar as I have followed the family closely but if there is one thing about him to watch out for is that he is very cerebral and can run circles around most people. His moves are calculated and there is a reason LaMelo played in the league he played in. It is one that can highlight his strengths but at the same time also mask his weaknesses.

Lavar and his family is also one that have been very lucky as seen in how the ping pong balls bounced in favor of Lonzo landing in his hometown Lakers while Magic was basically pulled into drafting him and basically anointing him as the next great Laker who would shatter his records.

I think luck can land LaMelo into his desired team. Let’s just hope in this situation it works out for everyone.

Yea LaMelo isn’t a terrible prospect. He’s pretty talented. But the dude has to make unprecedented history cause no one ever shot as poorly as him and ended up being a star. And then his defense is poor. I think he’ll be decent but won’t live up to the hype and prob won’t be an all star.

Wiseman just seems like the safer player with a higher upside.
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Post#935 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:31 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:LaMelo shooting 30% against washed up players who couldn’t make it in the league is def worthy of the #1 pick. No doubt about it. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I actually like LaMelo but am still in the process of trying to convert myself to liking him over Wiseman, basically trying to understand and follow the herd. Am failing miserably in this but am trying.

Hoping to achieve this by just watching LaMelo’s highlights and avoiding the weakness videos and the rest. He looks amazing but if there is one thing that bothers me is that I think there are limitations to his athleticism which will make things hard for him to be an efficient scorer at the NBA level. His double clutch layups that he is doing will be easily blocked by better players. Also I think him having trouble against RJ Hampton may be a sign of things to come when he has to contend with the more athletic guards in the league.

I actually like Lavar as I have followed the family closely but if there is one thing about him to watch out for is that he is very cerebral and can run circles around most people. His moves are calculated and there is a reason LaMelo played in the league he played in. It is one that can highlight his strengths but at the same time also mask his weaknesses.

Lavar and his family is also one that have been very lucky as seen in how the ping pong balls bounced in favor of Lonzo landing in his hometown Lakers while Magic was basically pulled into drafting him and basically anointing him as the next great Laker who would shatter his records.

I think luck can land LaMelo into his desired team. Let’s just hope in this situation it works out for everyone.

Yea LaMelo isn’t a terrible prospect. He’s pretty talented. But the dude has to make unprecedented history cause no one ever shot as poorly as him and ended up being a star. And then his defense is poor. I think he’ll be decent but won’t live up to the hype and prob won’t be an all star.

Wiseman just seems like the safer player with a higher upside.



Why are you guys still arguing about players we’re never even going to sniff?
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Post#936 » by Worst_to_First » Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:11 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
I actually like LaMelo but am still in the process of trying to convert myself to liking him over Wiseman, basically trying to understand and follow the herd. Am failing miserably in this but am trying.

Hoping to achieve this by just watching LaMelo’s highlights and avoiding the weakness videos and the rest. He looks amazing but if there is one thing that bothers me is that I think there are limitations to his athleticism which will make things hard for him to be an efficient scorer at the NBA level. His double clutch layups that he is doing will be easily blocked by better players. Also I think him having trouble against RJ Hampton may be a sign of things to come when he has to contend with the more athletic guards in the league.

I actually like Lavar as I have followed the family closely but if there is one thing about him to watch out for is that he is very cerebral and can run circles around most people. His moves are calculated and there is a reason LaMelo played in the league he played in. It is one that can highlight his strengths but at the same time also mask his weaknesses.

Lavar and his family is also one that have been very lucky as seen in how the ping pong balls bounced in favor of Lonzo landing in his hometown Lakers while Magic was basically pulled into drafting him and basically anointing him as the next great Laker who would shatter his records.

I think luck can land LaMelo into his desired team. Let’s just hope in this situation it works out for everyone.

Yea LaMelo isn’t a terrible prospect. He’s pretty talented. But the dude has to make unprecedented history cause no one ever shot as poorly as him and ended up being a star. And then his defense is poor. I think he’ll be decent but won’t live up to the hype and prob won’t be an all star.

Wiseman just seems like the safer player with a higher upside.



Why are you guys still arguing about players we’re never even going to sniff?


It’s because we never learn.
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Post#937 » by Worst_to_First » Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:33 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:LaMelo shooting 30% against washed up players who couldn’t make it in the league is def worthy of the #1 pick. No doubt about it. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I actually like LaMelo but am still in the process of trying to convert myself to liking him over Wiseman, basically trying to understand and follow the herd. Am failing miserably in this but am trying.

Hoping to achieve this by just watching LaMelo’s highlights and avoiding the weakness videos and the rest. He looks amazing but if there is one thing that bothers me is that I think there are limitations to his athleticism which will make things hard for him to be an efficient scorer at the NBA level. His double clutch layups that he is doing will be easily blocked by better players. Also I think him having trouble against RJ Hampton may be a sign of things to come when he has to contend with the more athletic guards in the league.

I actually like Lavar as I have followed the family closely but if there is one thing about him to watch out for is that he is very cerebral and can run circles around most people. His moves are calculated and there is a reason LaMelo played in the league he played in. It is one that can highlight his strengths but at the same time also mask his weaknesses.

Lavar and his family is also one that have been very lucky as seen in how the ping pong balls bounced in favor of Lonzo landing in his hometown Lakers while Magic was basically pulled into drafting him and basically anointing him as the next great Laker who would shatter his records.

I think luck can land LaMelo into his desired team. Let’s just hope in this situation it works out for everyone.

Yea LaMelo isn’t a terrible prospect. He’s pretty talented. But the dude has to make unprecedented history cause no one ever shot as poorly as him and ended up being a star. And then his defense is poor. I think he’ll be decent but won’t live up to the hype and prob won’t be an all star.

Wiseman just seems like the safer player with a higher upside.


Wiseman and LaMelo both have translatable skills to the NBA, the former obviously being rebounding and defense while the latter being playmaking. We already have Mitch so while I do not agree I understand the lack of interest for Wiseman. I also sympathize on the Ja Morant envy, but it is what it is.

I think the argument should also boil down on these prospects’ ability to score at the NBA level and which one can do so at an efficient and effective level. For Wiseman I already see an unblockable go-to move and I think he has already those counters in place. LaMelo I am not sure but his shooting percentages are worrisome.

Ultimately I want to see us win a championship. For me it is still a matter of having your opponents score less than you. Am more comfortable with Wiseman’s contribution on defense than LaMelo.

One thing I like about Wiseman is his awareness on his weaknesses and we have seen him work on these and address these. Fixing one’s motor issues is easier said than done, and seeing him address this is a testament to his work ethic and desire to improve.

LaMelo has his merits. Lavar seems to be toughest on him amongst the siblings and this still hasn’t deterred his confidence. I still haven’t brought myself though to the comfort level on him that I have in Wiseman. Him being able to show more commitment on defense will be a step in the right direction.
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Post#938 » by Chanel Bomber » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:03 am

Lamelo’s ceiling is Jason Williams and his worst case is out if the league before his second contract imo. Think he’ll end up in China by his 6th or 7th year most likely.

Plus by investing time in him you’re gonna stunt RJ’s development because LaMelo can’t play off the ball and is just gonna dominate the ball while shooting 30% from the field. Might even beat Knox and Frank and reach the 20% mark.

Otherwise sure drafting LaMelo sounds like a good idea.
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Post#939 » by aq_ua » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:26 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
I actually like LaMelo but am still in the process of trying to convert myself to liking him over Wiseman, basically trying to understand and follow the herd. Am failing miserably in this but am trying.

Hoping to achieve this by just watching LaMelo’s highlights and avoiding the weakness videos and the rest. He looks amazing but if there is one thing that bothers me is that I think there are limitations to his athleticism which will make things hard for him to be an efficient scorer at the NBA level. His double clutch layups that he is doing will be easily blocked by better players. Also I think him having trouble against RJ Hampton may be a sign of things to come when he has to contend with the more athletic guards in the league.

I actually like Lavar as I have followed the family closely but if there is one thing about him to watch out for is that he is very cerebral and can run circles around most people. His moves are calculated and there is a reason LaMelo played in the league he played in. It is one that can highlight his strengths but at the same time also mask his weaknesses.

Lavar and his family is also one that have been very lucky as seen in how the ping pong balls bounced in favor of Lonzo landing in his hometown Lakers while Magic was basically pulled into drafting him and basically anointing him as the next great Laker who would shatter his records.

I think luck can land LaMelo into his desired team. Let’s just hope in this situation it works out for everyone.

Yea LaMelo isn’t a terrible prospect. He’s pretty talented. But the dude has to make unprecedented history cause no one ever shot as poorly as him and ended up being a star. And then his defense is poor. I think he’ll be decent but won’t live up to the hype and prob won’t be an all star.

Wiseman just seems like the safer player with a higher upside.



Why are you guys still arguing about players we’re never even going to sniff?


It's like everyone wants to forget that for the last 35 years, the Knicks have had, and will continue to have, the worst luck in the lottery. Always picking just outside the top tier players. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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