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Post#1561 » by LittleRooster » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:58 am

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midranger wrote:We’ll see how this goes over as testing continues to strain under the weight of the current spike.


As we both repeat ourselves, the real problem is that the bubble is phony. Pauly Shore was far more isolated in BioDome.

They need to get workers into the bubble.

I’m referring to the ethical question of prioritizing daily tests of asymptomatic, non essential athletes at low-risk for complications over every one else in an exploding epidemic.

It’s a terrible look and completely amoral.

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Post#1562 » by MrHoneycutt » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:23 am

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midranger wrote:We’ll see how this goes over as testing continues to strain under the weight of the current spike.


As we both repeat ourselves, the real problem is that the bubble is phony. Pauly Shore was far more isolated in BioDome.

They need to get workers into the bubble.


To be fair, Pauly 'Squirrel' Shore had the assistance of Stephen 'Stubs' Baldwin.

Any word on if FSWI is going to carry any of the games?
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Post#1563 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:51 am

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midranger wrote:We’ll see how this goes over as testing continues to strain under the weight of the current spike.


As we both repeat ourselves, the real problem is that the bubble is phony. Pauly Shore was far more isolated in BioDome.

They need to get workers into the bubble.


To be fair, Pauly 'Squirrel' Shore had the assistance of Stephen 'Stubs' Baldwin.

Any word on if FSWI is going to carry any of the games?


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Post#1564 » by Badgerlander » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:26 pm

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midranger wrote:We’ll see how this goes over as testing continues to strain under the weight of the current spike.


As we both repeat ourselves, the real problem is that the bubble is phony. Pauly Shore was far more isolated in BioDome.

They need to get workers into the bubble.

I’m referring to the ethical question of prioritizing daily tests of asymptomatic, non essential athletes at low-risk for complications over every one else in an exploding epidemic.

It’s a terrible look and completely amoral.


Pretty sure teams are testing all of their employees which includes their health care staffs and I’m pretty sure that they are paying for those tests in effort to protect their investment in their guaranteed contracts and their billion dollar industry and all of the charity work and money that they spend globally every year. Pretty sure the exploding part of the epidemic right now is the number of positive tests, the vast majority Of which are asymptomatic, in the US because more testing is being done. If anything the nba is the tip of the spear in finding a way to forge a way forward in dealing with the epidemic without unflattening the curve and should probably be applauded for spending millions to figure it out while hemorrhaging billions instead of laying everyone off and sitting at home waiting for someone else to figure it out. I don’t see any other organization putting as much effort into safety as the nba has and it’s really not even close.
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Post#1565 » by midranger » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:48 pm

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midranger wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
As we both repeat ourselves, the real problem is that the bubble is phony. Pauly Shore was far more isolated in BioDome.

They need to get workers into the bubble.

I’m referring to the ethical question of prioritizing daily tests of asymptomatic, non essential athletes at low-risk for complications over every one else in an exploding epidemic.

It’s a terrible look and completely amoral.


Pretty sure teams are testing all of their employees which includes their health care staffs and I’m pretty sure that they are paying for those tests in effort to protect their investment in their guaranteed contracts and their billion dollar industry and all of the charity work and money that they spend globally every year. Pretty sure the exploding part of the epidemic right now is the number of positive tests, the vast majority Of which are asymptomatic, in the US because more testing is being done. If anything the nba is the tip of the spear in finding a way to forge a way forward in dealing with the epidemic without unflattening the curve and should probably be applauded for spending millions to figure it out while hemorrhaging billions instead of laying everyone off and sitting at home waiting for someone else to figure it out. I don’t see any other organization putting as much effort into safety as the nba has and it’s really not even close.

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Post#1567 » by Badgerlander » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:12 pm

midranger wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
midranger wrote:I’m referring to the ethical question of prioritizing daily tests of asymptomatic, non essential athletes at low-risk for complications over every one else in an exploding epidemic.

It’s a terrible look and completely amoral.


Pretty sure teams are testing all of their employees which includes their health care staffs and I’m pretty sure that they are paying for those tests in effort to protect their investment in their guaranteed contracts and their billion dollar industry and all of the charity work and money that they spend globally every year. Pretty sure the exploding part of the epidemic right now is the number of positive tests, the vast majority Of which are asymptomatic, in the US because more testing is being done. If anything the nba is the tip of the spear in finding a way to forge a way forward in dealing with the epidemic without unflattening the curve and should probably be applauded for spending millions to figure it out while hemorrhaging billions instead of laying everyone off and sitting at home waiting for someone else to figure it out. I don’t see any other organization putting as much effort into safety as the nba has and it’s really not even close.

>>>>>The point.>>>>





You.


By all means explain it to me because I think the point is a solution not the blame.

I’m just saying that you have to make a lot of assumptions to make your point, just asking you to look deeper into the decisions being made and who is making them in order for your statement to be true and I think that you’d probably change your mind if you had all of the facts
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Post#1568 » by trwi7 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:40 pm

Badgerlander wrote:By all means explain it to me because I think the point is a solution not the blame.

I’m just saying that you have to make a lot of assumptions to make your point, just asking you to look deeper into the decisions being made and who is making them in order for your statement to be true and I think that you’d probably change your mind if you had all of the facts


How much more clear can he make this?

I’m referring to the ethical question of prioritizing daily tests of asymptomatic, non essential athletes at low-risk for complications over every one else in an exploding epidemic.

It’s a terrible look and completely amoral.


The NBA tests are being expedited while people out in society are taking a week or longer to get their test results and spreading it to who knows how many more people in the meantime.
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Post#1570 » by midranger » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:55 pm

trwi7 wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:By all means explain it to me because I think the point is a solution not the blame.

I’m just saying that you have to make a lot of assumptions to make your point, just asking you to look deeper into the decisions being made and who is making them in order for your statement to be true and I think that you’d probably change your mind if you had all of the facts


How much more clear can he make this?

I’m referring to the ethical question of prioritizing daily tests of asymptomatic, non essential athletes at low-risk for complications over every one else in an exploding epidemic.

It’s a terrible look and completely amoral.


The NBA tests are being expedited while people out in society are taking a week or longer to get their test results and spreading it to who knows how many more people in the meantime.

Sure they are low risk, asymptomatic, require daily tests draining limited resources (both kits and laboratory time) Needed for actual sick people, and completely non essential; the fact is they are RICH! So **** everyone else.
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Post#1571 » by Badgerlander » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:18 pm

trwi7 wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:By all means explain it to me because I think the point is a solution not the blame.

I’m just saying that you have to make a lot of assumptions to make your point, just asking you to look deeper into the decisions being made and who is making them in order for your statement to be true and I think that you’d probably change your mind if you had all of the facts


How much more clear can he make this?

I’m referring to the ethical question of prioritizing daily tests of asymptomatic, non essential athletes at low-risk for complications over every one else in an exploding epidemic.

It’s a terrible look and completely amoral.


The NBA tests are being expedited while people out in society are taking a week or longer to get their test results and spreading it to who knows how many more people in the meantime.


I just like all the facts and right now I have none. The few people that I know that have been tested got their results back in an hour so I’m not sure what the difference is here, and if you are going to get tested and have to wait a week wouldn’t you self quarantine until you have the results? I realize that’s an inconvenience but
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Post#1572 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:20 pm

I've heard of test results taking awhile to come back. I know someone who waited a week this month. I got tested this week and had the results in about 6 hours. Some labs are backed up but others obviously are not.
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Post#1573 » by midranger » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:25 pm

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/nba-insider-tom-haberstroh/covid-testing-priority-potential-issue-nba

But for those outside the bubble mired in a public health crisis, the swift processing for MLS and NBA may be problematic.

BioReference is experiencing serious delays with the general public. As of Thursday morning, patients attempting to access test results on the BioReference website would be met with an alert that reads: “If you are looking for your COVID-19 PCR (swab) results please note that these may not be available in the patient portal for up to 5-7 days after collection. As always, we appreciate your business and thank you for your patience during this unprecedented time.”

The local stories in Orlando involving BioReference are alarming. Last week, Central Florida’s CBS affiliate WKMG reported that a 74-year-old cancer survivor, along with several senior citizens at a nursing home, waited over a week for their results after being tested at the Orange County Convention Center (OCCC), one of the busiest testing sites in the state of Florida. The OCCC’s testing provider: BioReference.
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Post#1574 » by midranger » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:29 pm

Florida is the epicenter of the crisis currently. Their testing capacity is certainly more strained the Joe in New Berlin’s.

The nba Put in the infamous 113 page document that quest would be their testing provider. They dropped Quest because Quest was only prioritizing hospitalized patients in Florida for rapid testing given the recent surge. They picked this other lab who will shill for nba money while telling everyone else it’ll take a week.


It’s a bad look and completely amoral. It’s what it is. If you’re okay with sick high-risk people waiting so healthy nba players can be tested again and again, that’s on you. Those of us in health care view things like this quite differently.

Additionally, the last thing this country needs is to see their heroes playing indoor, full contact sports, without masks. It’ll only help to legitimize their biases. Further, COVID is a disease that disproportionately kills African Americans. It’ll be a sad irony if African Americans are dying of CoVID in central Florida so/because NBA players can wear their BLM shirts during an exhibition tournament down the street.
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Post#1575 » by Badgerlander » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:38 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I've heard of test results taking awhile to come back. I know someone who waited a week this month. I got tested this week and had the results in about 6 hours. Some labs are backed up but others obviously are not.


A buddy at work got his in an hour on Tuesday. My daughter got hers within an hour 2 weeks ago. Another buddy got his in a few hours back the end of March. All of them were at different local hospitals. I wonder if it’s places that have to ship their tests if they don’t have a lab locally?
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Post#1576 » by Triple 7 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:21 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:I've heard of test results taking awhile to come back. I know someone who waited a week this month. I got tested this week and had the results in about 6 hours. Some labs are backed up but others obviously are not.


A buddy at work got his in an hour on Tuesday. My daughter got hers within an hour 2 weeks ago. Another buddy got his in a few hours back the end of March. All of them were at different local hospitals. I wonder if it’s places that have to ship their tests if they don’t have a lab locally?


I'm guessing you are all in Wisconsin while the discussion is focused on testing in Florida.
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Post#1577 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:24 pm

Florida did over 64,000 tests yesterday. I'm not going to get outraged that the NBA tests are tipping the scales of expeditiousness
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Post#1578 » by Triple 7 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:29 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Florida did over 64,000 tests yesterday. I'm not going to get outraged that the NBA tests are tipping the scales of expeditiousness


And their new cases are orders of magnitude higher than just about everywhere else:

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Post#1579 » by Badgerlander » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:39 pm

midranger wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/nba-insider-tom-haberstroh/covid-testing-priority-potential-issue-nba

But for those outside the bubble mired in a public health crisis, the swift processing for MLS and NBA may be problematic.

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The local stories in Orlando involving BioReference are alarming. Last week, Central Florida’s CBS affiliate WKMG reported that a 74-year-old cancer survivor, along with several senior citizens at a nursing home, waited over a week for their results after being tested at the Orange County Convention Center (OCCC), one of the busiest testing sites in the state of Florida. The OCCC’s testing provider: BioReference.


Hmmm makes me wonder if the OCCC testing site is a government contracted testing site for anyone that wants to be tested for free (which contracts with BioReference to process the tests) while local hospitals that are treating people with symptoms have their own labs?
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Post#1580 » by StickeeFingaz » Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:10 pm

If you think you have COVID and you get a test and are waiting for results, seems to me you have a responsibility to quarantine until you get results back.
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