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Re: Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason! 

Post#1061 » by robillionaire » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:55 pm

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Throw the bag at him he's legit


I've been on the wood train for a while now. Just wondering if he's best played at the 4 or 5 and what would be a good fit

the report in march was that the knicks are "enamored" with him but a lot has changed since then in the front office

https://www.sny.tv/articles/sources-some-in-knicks-front-office-are-enamored-with-pending-free-agent-f-christian-wood


He's versatile and can switch from 4 to the 5. It really depends on the rest of the roster to determine where you'd prefer him. He's probably more effective at the 5 for majority of his minutes but definitely can slide to the 4 if need be.


So what would we do about him and Mitch then? I'd kinda hoped that 38.6% from 3 could hold up and he would have potential to be a great stretch 4
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Post#1062 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:01 pm

Randle dropped 22/12/3 against wood the last time they played and the Knicks won. Pistons had lost the last 11 of 12 games. The game before that when they matched up Randle dropped 17/7/3 including a dagger in Wood’s face, handing him another L, while giving the Knicks 4 straight wins. Wood is just a stat padding loser with mediocre defense. No thanks! Pistons can keep him and they will
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason! 

Post#1063 » by HEZI » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:04 pm

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I've been on the wood train for a while now. Just wondering if he's best played at the 4 or 5 and what would be a good fit

the report in march was that the knicks are "enamored" with him but a lot has changed since then in the front office

https://www.sny.tv/articles/sources-some-in-knicks-front-office-are-enamored-with-pending-free-agent-f-christian-wood


He's versatile and can switch from 4 to the 5. It really depends on the rest of the roster to determine where you'd prefer him. He's probably more effective at the 5 for majority of his minutes but definitely can slide to the 4 if need be.


So what would we do about him and Mitch then? I'd kinda hoped that 38.6% from 3 could hold up and he would have potential to be a great stretch 4


He could stretch the floor for sure but just limiting him to that role would hold back his other tools. Interesting to think how he and Robinson would work, they do tend to both prefer the pick and roll. I'd look to unlock Robinson's perimeter skills also then we'd really have something. If both these dudes can shoot, can jump out the gym and finish around the rim the way they do, oof
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Post#1064 » by HEZI » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:35 pm



:lol:

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Post#1065 » by newyorker4ever » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:59 pm

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You just contradicted your entire argument :rofl:

That's how stupid your initial argument was :lol:


Only in your brain :crazy:

You just compared C.Wood who has done nothing in the NBA except for parts of this shortened season on a horrible team to multiple players who have proven themselves over and over and over again with multiple full seasons in the NBA. Good job buddy. :rofl:

I'm way too grown to go back and forth about something so dumb but i have a feeling that you'd keep going on and on and on until you get the last word so have at it kid. :thumbsup:


I just used your own dumb argument of evaluating players only if they play for good teams against you and you just tried to moondwalk out of the comment like you never made it :lol:

I love how Lonzo and Ingram are now consdered "proven" players :rofl:

Was talking up Ingram over a year ago, was super high on him going back to Duke, and folks like you tried to tell me he wasn't shyt but now he's proven right? Even though his team is trash despite having Lonzo and Jrue and Zion. Man Lonzo and Ingram couldn't even win with Lebron but again that never got in my way of realizing their talent and potential. Now they proven though? :lol:

Take the L and move on

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You still talking ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

You thinking that cause you believed in Ingram (along with millions of other people) makes you smart is too funny. I'm also in that group so should i feel special? I love fans who think they can be a GM but spend all their time telling us how smart they are on a message board...Hahahaha.

You just a fan who works a normal 9-5.....maybe?
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Post#1066 » by HEZI » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:41 am

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Only in your brain :crazy:

You just compared C.Wood who has done nothing in the NBA except for parts of this shortened season on a horrible team to multiple players who have proven themselves over and over and over again with multiple full seasons in the NBA. Good job buddy. :rofl:

I'm way too grown to go back and forth about something so dumb but i have a feeling that you'd keep going on and on and on until you get the last word so have at it kid. :thumbsup:


I just used your own dumb argument of evaluating players only if they play for good teams against you and you just tried to moondwalk out of the comment like you never made it :lol:

I love how Lonzo and Ingram are now consdered "proven" players :rofl:

Was talking up Ingram over a year ago, was super high on him going back to Duke, and folks like you tried to tell me he wasn't shyt but now he's proven right? Even though his team is trash despite having Lonzo and Jrue and Zion. Man Lonzo and Ingram couldn't even win with Lebron but again that never got in my way of realizing their talent and potential. Now they proven though? :lol:

Take the L and move on

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You still talking ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

You thinking that cause you believed in Ingram (along with millions of other people) makes you smart is too funny. I'm also in that group so should i feel special? I love fans who think they can be a GM but spend all their time telling us how smart they are on a message board...Hahahaha.

You just a fan who works a normal 9-5.....maybe?


Look at you, spinning out of control like Julius Randle on the court :lol:
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Post#1067 » by knickstape4ever » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:13 am

I think Wood is a better fit than Randle, but Gallo and Mook are better fits than both. IMO the best option next to RJ and Mitch is a true stretch-4, and Wood isn't really that. Yeah, he shot 38.6% from 3, but it was on just 2.3 attempts, and he played a lot of minutes at C

I wouldn't be mad w/ a Wood signing in part b/c I dont like Randle at all, but I'd still rather have a true stretch-4
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Post#1068 » by newyorker4ever » Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:16 am

HEZI wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
HEZI wrote:
I just used your own dumb argument of evaluating players only if they play for good teams against you and you just tried to moondwalk out of the comment like you never made it :lol:

I love how Lonzo and Ingram are now consdered "proven" players :rofl:

Was talking up Ingram over a year ago, was super high on him going back to Duke, and folks like you tried to tell me he wasn't shyt but now he's proven right? Even though his team is trash despite having Lonzo and Jrue and Zion. Man Lonzo and Ingram couldn't even win with Lebron but again that never got in my way of realizing their talent and potential. Now they proven though? :lol:

Take the L and move on

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You still talking ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

You thinking that cause you believed in Ingram (along with millions of other people) makes you smart is too funny. I'm also in that group so should i feel special? I love fans who think they can be a GM but spend all their time telling us how smart they are on a message board...Hahahaha.

You just a fan who works a normal 9-5.....maybe?


Look at you, spinning out of control like Julius Randle on the court :lol:


Awwwwwww truth hurts, poor baby... :naaa:
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Post#1069 » by Richard4444 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:32 am

knickstape4ever wrote:I think Wood is a better fit than Randle, but Gallo and Mook are better fits than both. IMO the best option next to RJ and Mitch is a true stretch-4, and Wood isn't really that. Yeah, he shot 38.6% from 3, but it was on just 2.3 attempts, and he played a lot of minutes at C

I wouldn't be mad w/ a Wood signing in part b/c I dont like Randle at all, but I'd still rather have a true stretch-4


I agree with your Wood analysis.

The problem is that Mook will start next season with 31 years old and Gallo with 32 years old and injury history. And our team is far away to be a contender.

Bertans and Grant are better options.

By the end, I think we will sign who cant come to an agreement with his current team.
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Post#1070 » by HEZI » Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:51 am

newyorker4ever wrote:
HEZI wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
You still talking ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

You thinking that cause you believed in Ingram (along with millions of other people) makes you smart is too funny. I'm also in that group so should i feel special? I love fans who think they can be a GM but spend all their time telling us how smart they are on a message board...Hahahaha.

You just a fan who works a normal 9-5.....maybe?


Look at you, spinning out of control like Julius Randle on the court :lol:


Awwwwwww truth hurts, poor baby... :naaa:


And this is your response? :rofl:
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Post#1071 » by Richard4444 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:51 am

I think we need to make a opportunistic approach next offseason. We have to monitor great deals to be made.

1) Try to get more picks or move up in the draft. If the cap drops, teams would be open to give up picks to save money. Especially playoff teams that cant waste cap space on rookies. We could trade Dallas picks or future second rounders to move up.

2) Try to take salary dumps to earn FRPs. Especially if the salary cap drops significantly. The caos is a ladder.

3) Try to sign VanVleet if we dont draft a PG or draft a PG capable of mark SGs.

4) Try to sign and trade for Malik/Bogdan/Ingram. I will be surprise if Ingram is not one of the first players to sign a extension on moratorium. Malik and Bogdan could be a tougher negotiation with their current teams. Especially if their teams draft a guard with their FRPs (Lamello, Edwards, Hayes, Haliburton, Vassel and RJ could work with DLo and Fox). They might try to lowball Malik or Bogdan and sign and trade them if they dont like the asked salary.

5) Trade Randle for any expiring player or anyone can could be useful in rotation if the contract were longer.

6) Sign a stretch big who cant re-sign with his team.
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Post#1072 » by WargamesX » Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:01 pm

What would it cost the knicks to trade for Aaron Gordon?

Randle’s per is higher and his contract isn’t guaranteed. He would have to be the core of the deal, but what else would it take? Maybe absorbing Aminu’s contract, or sending DSJr or some draft compensation?
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Post#1073 » by newyorker4ever » Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:20 pm

HEZI wrote:
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Look at you, spinning out of control like Julius Randle on the court :lol:


Awwwwwww truth hurts, poor baby... :naaa:


And this is your response? :rofl:


Yes. :roll:
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Post#1074 » by newyorker4ever » Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:42 pm

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Post#1075 » by BowlRips » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:25 pm

Was looking at a mock draft..
It seems Minny is a top trade up candidate if LaMelo Ball is our target.

They don't have their 2021 pick due to the Russel trade.
They have 120mil guaranteed heading into 2021 which includes their projected 1st round pick and doesnt include retaining Juancho and Malik Beasley who they just traded for.. Also they already have their PG in D'Angelo Russell.

Would something like this be enough to move up

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Post#1076 » by a-French-Fan » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:40 pm

WargamesX wrote:What would it cost the knicks to trade for Aaron Gordon?

Randle’s per is higher and his contract isn’t guaranteed. He would have to be the core of the deal, but what else would it take? Maybe absorbing Aminu’s contract, or sending DSJr or some draft compensation?


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Post#1077 » by 8516knicks » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:18 pm

Say Atlanta gets shafted in the lottery and we luck out for a top 3 pick. Any way to pry Kevin Huerter from them and still get Killian Hayes? (they could perhaps get LaMello, Edwards or Wiseman with the pick)? That would solve 2 problems for us with not much of a loss. Throw in Knox also.
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Post#1078 » by br7knicks » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:13 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:I think Wood is a better fit than Randle, but Gallo and Mook are better fits than both. IMO the best option next to RJ and Mitch is a true stretch-4, and Wood isn't really that. Yeah, he shot 38.6% from 3, but it was on just 2.3 attempts, and he played a lot of minutes at C

I wouldn't be mad w/ a Wood signing in part b/c I dont like Randle at all, but I'd still rather have a true stretch-4


I agree with your Wood analysis.

The problem is that Mook will start next season with 31 years old and Gallo with 32 years old and injury history. And our team is far away to be a contender.

Bertans and Grant are better options.

By the end, I think we will sign who cant come to an agreement with his current team.


yeah i like wood, but i don't think he'd be a good fit right now.

mitch should be taking a bunch of the C minutes. wood, although did hit well from 3 this past season, isn't known as a shooter. i think i watched a video by a guy named Coach Daniel, and he gave reasons why that was a bit of a fluke.

now, if wood will come for cheap, that's a different story. but if that's the case, something tells me the pistons will take him.
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Post#1079 » by br7knicks » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:17 pm

WargamesX wrote:What would it cost the knicks to trade for Aaron Gordon?

Randle’s per is higher and his contract isn’t guaranteed. He would have to be the core of the deal, but what else would it take? Maybe absorbing Aminu’s contract, or sending DSJr or some draft compensation?


i like gordon, and i'd take him if it meant unloading randle and taking on a few bad contracts. that's what the knicks should be doing: taking on bad contracts to get picks or young assets. think gordon is mid 20s. problem is, isn't he injury prone?
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Post#1080 » by Richard4444 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:09 am

BowlRips wrote:Was looking at a mock draft..
It seems Minny is a top trade up candidate if LaMelo Ball is our target.

They don't have their 2021 pick due to the Russel trade.
They have 120mil guaranteed heading into 2021 which includes their projected 1st round pick and doesnt include retaining Juancho and Malik Beasley who they just traded for.. Also they already have their PG in D'Angelo Russell.

Would something like this be enough to move up

1st Overall
James Johnson (1 year 16mil)

for

6th Overall
27th Overall via Clippers
2021 Mavericks 1st Round Pick


We could also sign and trade for Malik. Wolves could draft Ball or Edwards to be the starter frontcourt along DLo. They already have 60M+/y in Towns and DLo. They would use 80M Cap Space in Dlo/Towns/Malik. A rookie first round pick costs half of the price of Malik.

If we could get a deal giving 72/4 salary to Malik and the the 2021 Mavs 1 Pick to the Wolves would not be better?

We could draft Hayes/Haliburton/Kira with 6th pick and Ramsey/Smith/Zeke at 27th. We could end with Hayes, Malik and Ramsay instead of Ball and James Johnson.

I like Ball. But I dont know if he is a such great sure player to justify burning 3 FRPs and 16M Cap Space in him.
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