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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1781 » by MrFortune3 » Thu Jul 9, 2020 8:04 pm

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dice wrote:if the league could lock in zion signing with the knicks when his rookie deal is complete they'd do it immediately


Would hurt the Pels too much. The Knicks need to develop their own stars. Until they do it will be another Melo situation.

it would hurt the pels as much as it would help the knicks. if zion is only as good as melo, then your initial statement is moot. if he's amazing enough to turn the pelicans into a dynasty, the league would rather have him do that in the #1 market instead of the 2nd smallest market in the league


The Knicks would have to have talent around him to help him. As of right now, they have next to nothing. You would need Zion + a core and another guy who wanted to play with him to help the Knicks.
otherwise it's just another Melo situation where it's 1 guy and scrubs.

Zion on the Pelicans with a young core and exciting play helps the league far more. Brings eyeballs to the Pels games and drives fans to the arena(once the pandemic is over).
Imagine how the Warriors would be different if Steph or Klay left for a bigger market.
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Post#1782 » by dice » Thu Jul 9, 2020 10:55 pm

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Would hurt the Pels too much. The Knicks need to develop their own stars. Until they do it will be another Melo situation.

it would hurt the pels as much as it would help the knicks. if zion is only as good as melo, then your initial statement is moot. if he's amazing enough to turn the pelicans into a dynasty, the league would rather have him do that in the #1 market instead of the 2nd smallest market in the league


The Knicks would have to have talent around him to help him. As of right now, they have next to nothing. You would need Zion + a core and another guy who wanted to play with him to help the Knicks.
otherwise it's just another Melo situation where it's 1 guy and scrubs.

same thing for whatever team he's with! there's no guarantee that the pelicans are going to have much talent around him in the long-term. and it's not like they're talent central right now. is zion, ingram, lonzo and jaxson hayes really a foundation for a dynasty? doubt it. and holiday is 30 w/ 1-2 years left on his deal. doubt he's in their long-term plans

Zion on the Pelicans with a young core and exciting play helps the league far more. Brings eyeballs to the Pels games and drives fans to the arena(once the pandemic is over).

are you trying to help the pelicans or help the entire league? 'cause at least locally, there are more than 10x the potential eyeballs on the knicks then there are on the pels. particularly when NY basketball fans are starved for a winner

Imagine how the Warriors would be different if Steph or Klay left for a bigger market.

there's a difference between breaking up a made dynasty and breaking up a young team with potential.

i bet if the league could go back and blow up the warriors dynasty before it even happened and send steph to NYC they'd even consider that
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Post#1785 » by Andi Obst » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:55 am

Matisse Thybulle started a YouTube series on his life in the bubble. Really hope he keeps this going because I think it's interesting to see and Matisse seems to be a cool dude. Here's the first one:

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Post#1787 » by samwana » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:43 am

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=29452319

I appreciate Jay Williams for what he said here. Good for you Jay
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I appreciate Jay Williams for what he said here. Good for you Jay


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Post#1789 » by MrSparkle » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:41 pm

In the end, shouldn’t these guys be happy their company/employers are going to maximum lengths for health security and also supporting BLM, which is very divisive for share-holders, investors, sponsors?

Personally, I get that it’s in the NBA owners interests to just get the ball going so that some money is recouped in ratings and sponsorship, but I give them kudos for seemingly doing their best working with the player association.

Only thing I didn’t care for is that they chose Orlando, especially now that FL is the epicenter. Wouldn’t it have made more precautionary sense putting the bubble in Iowa or something? It’s just strange that this coincides with Disney World opening up. How are the risks not magnified?

Moving forward, it might actually make sense to build up something like an Olympic village in the complete middle of no-where for next season(s). You don’t need stadium seating so these courts can be relatively small.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1790 » by DASMACKDOWN » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:47 pm

MrSparkle wrote:In the end, shouldn’t these guys be happy their company/employers are going to maximum lengths for health security and also supporting BLM, which is very divisive for share-holders, investors, sponsors?

Personally, I get that it’s in the NBA owners interests to just get the ball going so that some money is recouped in ratings and sponsorship, but I give them kudos for seemingly doing their best working with the player association.

Only thing I didn’t care for is that they chose Orlando, especially now that FL is the epicenter. Wouldn’t it have made more precautionary sense putting the bubble in Iowa or something? It’s just strange that this coincides with Disney World opening up. How are the risks not magnified?

Moving forward, it might actually make sense to build up something like an Olympic village in the complete middle of no-where for next season(s). You don’t need stadium seating so these courts can be relatively small.


The Florida thing was seen a mile away that would eventually be an epicenter. They declared sports as an essential service so here we are.

They choice was Vegas or Disney. I think Vegas would have been too much of a temptation to burst the bubble so Florida it was. And when you think its part of ESPN, it was a no brainer.

To tell you the truth, I still dont like the idea of this because I think it will somewhat break 2 seasons.
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Post#1794 » by MrFortune3 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:01 pm

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Post#1795 » by MrFortune3 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:05 pm

MrSparkle wrote:In the end, shouldn’t these guys be happy their company/employers are going to maximum lengths for health security and also supporting BLM, which is very divisive for share-holders, investors, sponsors?

Personally, I get that it’s in the NBA owners interests to just get the ball going so that some money is recouped in ratings and sponsorship, but I give them kudos for seemingly doing their best working with the player association.

Only thing I didn’t care for is that they chose Orlando, especially now that FL is the epicenter. Wouldn’t it have made more precautionary sense putting the bubble in Iowa or something? It’s just strange that this coincides with Disney World opening up. How are the risks not magnified?

Moving forward, it might actually make sense to build up something like an Olympic village in the complete middle of no-where for next season(s). You don’t need stadium seating so these courts can be relatively small.


The goal was to have all the teams in one place and easily able to accommodate the people they brought along. Only a few cities could accomplish this and Disney World is already set up with resorts, hotels, arenas and etc.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1796 » by dice » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:30 pm

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MrSparkle wrote:In the end, shouldn’t these guys be happy their company/employers are going to maximum lengths for health security and also supporting BLM, which is very divisive for share-holders, investors, sponsors?

Personally, I get that it’s in the NBA owners interests to just get the ball going so that some money is recouped in ratings and sponsorship, but I give them kudos for seemingly doing their best working with the player association.

Only thing I didn’t care for is that they chose Orlando, especially now that FL is the epicenter. Wouldn’t it have made more precautionary sense putting the bubble in Iowa or something? It’s just strange that this coincides with Disney World opening up. How are the risks not magnified?

Moving forward, it might actually make sense to build up something like an Olympic village in the complete middle of no-where for next season(s). You don’t need stadium seating so these courts can be relatively small.


The goal was to have all the teams in one place and easily able to accommodate the people they brought along. Only a few cities could accomplish this and Disney World is already set up with resorts, hotels, arenas and etc.

perhaps most importantly, when the decision was made we were at the height of lockdown. and florida was hanging "grand reopening soon!" banners everywhere
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Post#1797 » by dice » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:33 pm

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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#1798 » by MrFortune3 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:36 pm

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MrSparkle wrote:In the end, shouldn’t these guys be happy their company/employers are going to maximum lengths for health security and also supporting BLM, which is very divisive for share-holders, investors, sponsors?

Personally, I get that it’s in the NBA owners interests to just get the ball going so that some money is recouped in ratings and sponsorship, but I give them kudos for seemingly doing their best working with the player association.

Only thing I didn’t care for is that they chose Orlando, especially now that FL is the epicenter. Wouldn’t it have made more precautionary sense putting the bubble in Iowa or something? It’s just strange that this coincides with Disney World opening up. How are the risks not magnified?

Moving forward, it might actually make sense to build up something like an Olympic village in the complete middle of no-where for next season(s). You don’t need stadium seating so these courts can be relatively small.


The goal was to have all the teams in one place and easily able to accommodate the people they brought along. Only a few cities could accomplish this and Disney World is already set up with resorts, hotels, arenas and etc.

perhaps most importantly, when the decision was made we were at the height of lockdown. and florida was hanging "grand reopening soon!" banners everywhere


Indeed. The state was really clamoring for business and wanted to open to get back to normal.
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Post#1799 » by dice » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:38 pm

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Post#1800 » by MrFortune3 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:16 am

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maybe he should've gotten started a bit earlier


Definitely :lol:

Seriously need him to turn it around. He has to be a key cog in the rebuild for it to work, unless we go full tear it down and build from scratch.

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