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Jcool0 · Post #1801 » by **Jcool0** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:06 am

ImSlower · Post #1802 » by **ImSlower** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:20 am

I read that quote ten times in a row now, slowly, and I'm still not sure what he's going for. Seems like he is inferring that he doesn't want to be known as simply a person of color, as opposed to what he made himself into?

I guess he's trying to promote Persons of Color to be better than just that label attached to their backs.

MrFortune3 · Post #1803 » by **MrFortune3** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:14 am

ImSlower wrote:I read that quote ten times in a row now, slowly, and I'm still not sure what he's going for. Seems like he is inferring that he doesn't want to be known as simply a person of color, as opposed to what he made himself into?

I guess he's trying to promote Persons of Color to be better than just that label attached to their backs.

He's saying he wants people to look at him as being the same as everyone else of color.

ImSlower · Post #1804 » by **ImSlower** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:50 am

MrFortune3 wrote:
ImSlower wrote:I read that quote ten times in a row now, slowly, and I'm still not sure what he's going for. Seems like he is inferring that he doesn't want to be known as simply a person of color, as opposed to what he made himself into?

I guess he's trying to promote Persons of Color to be better than just that label attached to their backs.

He's saying he wants people to look at him as being the same as everyone else of color.

Interesting, I'm interpreting exactly the opposite. There's an inferred "Then" that he could have used to clarify the statement, "If I wasn't who I was today.. [then] I'm no different than anybody else of color". I think he's saying if he hadn't become Jimmy Butler the self-made success, he'd be just another POC in his Texas town. Not sure how to parse that message further, though; it seems prideful and not supportive.

I like your interpretation better, to be honest - and if he meant it that way it just didn't read clearly.

MrFortune3 · Post #1805 » by **MrFortune3** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:27 am

ImSlower wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
ImSlower wrote:I read that quote ten times in a row now, slowly, and I'm still not sure what he's going for. Seems like he is inferring that he doesn't want to be known as simply a person of color, as opposed to what he made himself into?

I guess he's trying to promote Persons of Color to be better than just that label attached to their backs.

He's saying he wants people to look at him as being the same as everyone else of color.

Interesting, I'm interpreting exactly the opposite. There's an inferred "Then" that he could have used to clarify the statement, "If I wasn't who I was today.. [then] I'm no different than anybody else of color". I think he's saying if he hadn't become Jimmy Butler the self-made success, he'd be just another POC in his Texas town. Not sure how to parse that message further, though; it seems prideful and not supportive.

I like your interpretation better, to be honest - and if he meant it that way it just didn't read clearly.

I felt like with no message, with no name, it's going back to, like, who I was. And if I wasn't who I was today, I'm no different than anybody else of color and want that to be my message in the sense that just because I'm an NBA player, everybody has the same right, no matter what, and that's how I feel about my people of color."

It's implied with the way he worded it even after they cut it down to a minor quote.

ImSlower · Post #1806 » by **ImSlower** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:50 am

MrFortune3 wrote:
ImSlower wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
He's saying he wants people to look at him as being the same as everyone else of color.

Interesting, I'm interpreting exactly the opposite. There's an inferred "Then" that he could have used to clarify the statement, "If I wasn't who I was today.. [then] I'm no different than anybody else of color". I think he's saying if he hadn't become Jimmy Butler the self-made success, he'd be just another POC in his Texas town. Not sure how to parse that message further, though; it seems prideful and not supportive.

I like your interpretation better, to be honest - and if he meant it that way it just didn't read clearly.

I felt like with no message, with no name, it's going back to, like, who I was. And if I wasn't who I was today, I'm no different than anybody else of color and want that to be my message in the sense that just because I'm an NBA player, everybody has the same right, no matter what, and that's how I feel about my people of color."

It's implied with the way he worded it even after they cut it down to a minor quote.

Thanks for the clarification. Reading only the text from my phone, I didn't realize it was a clip of the full quote. It makes much more sense than the smaller quote. The Yahoo truncation made me read it incorrectly, I don't expect I was alone. Yeah, I dig it now though, definitely. Better played than LeBron's reasoning, in my opinion.

StunnerKO · Post #1807 » by **StunnerKO** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:05 pm

Read on Twitter

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drosestruts · Post #1808 » by **drosestruts** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:50 pm

So if the bubble happens I think I'm going to root for Miami in the East and Clippers in the West. Let's see some Jimmy Butler and Joakim Noah fueled upsets in this crazy bubble!

QingJames12 · Post #1809 » by **QingJames12** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:35 pm

Look like Wade tweeted in support of nick cannons anti-semitism.

https://sports.yahoo.com/dwyane-wade-tweets-support-for-nick-cannon-after-he-was-fired-for-anti-semitic-remarks-210322735.html?_fsig=jksiBJ9js4W493d4ROlwcQ--

MrSparkle · Post #1810 » by **MrSparkle** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:09 am

drosestruts wrote:So if the bubble happens I think I'm going to root for Miami in the East and Clippers in the West. Let's see some Jimmy Butler and Joakim Noah fueled upsets in this crazy bubble!

This is gonna be unpopular but I'd like to see Westbrook, Harden and D'Antoni squeeze out a chip. They'd be such an asterisk-type of champ anyway.

Otherwise I'm all behind Milwaukee.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #1811 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:24 am

I miss watching Jimmy G Buckets in a Bulls uniform.

Watch on YouTube

PaKii94 · Post #1812 » by **PaKii94** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:03 am

Repeat 3-peat wrote:I miss watching Jimmy G Buckets in a Bulls uniform.

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Man it was special watching him go from a written off nobody to a star in the league

drosestruts · Post #1813 » by **drosestruts** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:03 pm

PaKii94 wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:I miss watching Jimmy G Buckets in a Bulls uniform.

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Man it was special watching him go from a written off nobody to a star in the league

It's rough looking back on how we squandered Butler and never really built a team that fit around him. He was blossoming while still in the shadow of Rose and Noah who were both on a downturn. The one year where he was the clear lead player we spent our offseason money on Rondo and Wade and there was a clear rift between Rondo and the young players and Butler/Wade. Then Butler goes to Minnesota and doesn't get on with Wiggins and Towns and gets a reputation as a bad teammate. But he was well-liked in Philly and seems to be well-liked in Miami among young and old players alike.

Hindsight obviously gives us a better view, but I think it's clearer now the problems in Chicago and Minnesota were less Jimmy Butler and more so the cast we and they had around him.

Post #1814 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:05 am

Repeat 3-peat wrote:I miss watching Jimmy G Buckets in a Bulls uniform.

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

I aint gonna lie I shed a tear when we traded him. Jimmy was one of my favorite alltime Bulls.

Post #1815 » by **dougthonus** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:31 am

Thought this was kind of funny:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29483160/blazers-carmelo-anthony-slims-ahead-switch-small-forward

Melo apparently lost five pounds but also had a big change in body composition losing a lot of fat in favor of muscle. Dude had a great career, but if he did that 17 years ago, he might have been a top 3-4 player in the league instead of a top 10ish player.

No idea if it will help on the court, but I wouldn't have even recognized him from that interview he looks so much thinner.

StunnerKO · Post #1816 » by **StunnerKO** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:25 am

Jesus Mo

jc23 · Post #1817 » by **jc23** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:02 pm

Id like to see Zion but the blazers are the better team when healthy and no rook is going to upset the lakers.

kodo · Post #1818 » by **kodo** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:27 pm

dougthonus wrote:Thought this was kind of funny:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29483160/blazers-carmelo-anthony-slims-ahead-switch-small-forward

Melo apparently lost five pounds but also had a big change in body composition losing a lot of fat in favor of muscle. Dude had a great career, but if he did that 17 years ago, he might have been a top 3-4 player in the league instead of a top 10ish player.

No idea if it will help on the court, but I wouldn't have even recognized him from that interview he looks so much thinner.

Even the out of shape Melo completely embarrassed the Bulls this season.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #1819 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:38 am

'The Last Dance' is now streaming on Netflix(US)

Post #1820 » by **dougthonus** » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:22 pm

Thought this was interesting:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29495048/lebron-james-rookie-card-goes-record-18m-auction

So LeBron James card sells for 1.8M, and that's kind of nuts. Interesting that the card companies have found a way to stay relevant in this day and age by creating these super rare sets of cards. I don't know how they're distributed normally, if they are just in packs and people get lucky? Either way, seems crazy.

Anyway, what made me think the story is interesting is this:

"At the present time, I would say that basketball in some cases is stronger than baseball and in other cases is neck-and-neck with baseball," Goldin said. "I have a tremendous amount of overseas bidders from China; we've had bidders from the Middle East, bidders from Australia and from Europe. With baseball, it's completely North American; it's 99% from North America. With basketball, it could be as much as 50 to 60% overseas bidding because it's more of a worldwide sport.

It kind of shows how the NBA's global strategy is working to make massive growth. I think they're really the only US based league to pull this off. I'm sure the Champions league in soccer has done this, and given how much indy car drivers make, I wonder if Indy car racing has great global popularity as well.

Either way, I just found it kind of interesting how it shows basketball relative to baseball.