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ash_k wrote:this is just not a bubble...I would have thought any delivery would not have been possible; so casual. They can just casually show up without being intercepted miles away from the players
It looks like the NHL has much better shot to pulling this off, who would have thought that like 6 weeks ago?!
execoftheyear wrote:watching people risking their lives just for entertainment.
Sinant wrote:I treat the Phoenix/Cleveland/Boston Shaqs like I do Wizards MJ. Never happened.
ash_k wrote:execoftheyear wrote:watching people risking their lives just for entertainment.
y'all drama queens going to need to stop with that nonsense.
-Donovan Mitchell
-Rudy Gobert
-Kevin Durant
-Nikola Jokic
- and hundreds of top athletes (NHL like Austin Matthews, NFL like Ezekiel Elliott,..) have tested positives for COVID. I saw Donovan Mitchell looking just fine the other day.
Mikel Arteta (you might have never heard of him) coach of Arsenal tested positives back in March/April...Lately, EPL fans have gotten to see him every 4 days coaching his team on the sideline. No problem looking just fine..
Y'all need to stop over-dramatizing. If there is an outbreak in the (fake) bubble. Adam will just send everybody back home.
Kevin Willis wrote:Also Florida lied and at the time of the contract said they had it under control. Can't blame the NBA for that considering it was the perfect place to have it next to ESPN, warm weather, facilities and activities in the bubble.
makeready wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:Also Florida lied and at the time of the contract said they had it under control. Can't blame the NBA for that considering it was the perfect place to have it next to ESPN, warm weather, facilities and activities in the bubble.
i'm not opposed to the season being played out, but you definitely can blame the NBA for picking florida. the stats were clear as day the entire time, pointing to a surge of infections in the south.
NHL got it right by waiting to first see how each local government would handle reopening.
Kevin Willis wrote:makeready wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:Also Florida lied and at the time of the contract said they had it under control. Can't blame the NBA for that considering it was the perfect place to have it next to ESPN, warm weather, facilities and activities in the bubble.
i'm not opposed to the season being played out, but you definitely can blame the NBA for picking florida. the stats were clear as day the entire time, pointing to a surge of infections in the south.
NHL got it right by waiting to first see how each local government would handle reopening.
Do you remember the day the NBA made the decision on choosing Florida? I want to go back and check projections and cases on that day.
ash_k wrote:execoftheyear wrote:watching people risking their lives just for entertainment.
y'all drama queens going to need to stop with that nonsense.
-Donovan Mitchell
-Rudy Gobert
-Kevin Durant
-Nikola Jokic
- and hundreds of top athletes (NHL like Austin Matthews, NFL like Ezekiel Elliott,..) have tested positives for COVID. I saw Donovan Mitchell looking just fine the other day.
Mikel Arteta (you might have never heard of him) coach of Arsenal tested positives back in March/April...Lately, EPL fans have gotten to see him every 4 days coaching his team on the sideline. No problem looking just fine..
Y'all need to stop over-dramatizing. If there is an outbreak in the (fake) bubble. Adam will just send everybody back home.
makeready wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:makeready wrote:
i'm not opposed to the season being played out, but you definitely can blame the NBA for picking florida. the stats were clear as day the entire time, pointing to a surge of infections in the south.
NHL got it right by waiting to first see how each local government would handle reopening.
Do you remember the day the NBA made the decision on choosing Florida? I want to go back and check projections and cases on that day.
florida started to reopen on May 4th.
on may 18th Rebekah Jones was fired for refusing to manipulate the florida stats: https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/newswire/2020/06/12/fired-scientist-rebekah-jones-builds-coronavirus-dashboard-to-rival-floridarsquos/3174482001/
presumably the numbers were cooked since at least then, but lets give FL the benefit of the doubt. here's what the official numbers looked like in early june - a rise in cases triggered by the reopening. florida would have been a safe location if the numbers continued to decline after the reopening - the way ontario's have.
the board of governors approved the orlando plan on June 4th, and should have already known better: https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nba-return-to-play-plan-orlando-1.45322326
Kevin Willis wrote:makeready wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:
Do you remember the day the NBA made the decision on choosing Florida? I want to go back and check projections and cases on that day.
florida started to reopen on May 4th.
on may 18th Rebekah Jones was fired for refusing to manipulate the florida stats: https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/newswire/2020/06/12/fired-scientist-rebekah-jones-builds-coronavirus-dashboard-to-rival-floridarsquos/3174482001/
presumably the numbers were cooked since at least then, but lets give FL the benefit of the doubt. here's what the official numbers looked like in early june - a rise in cases triggered by the reopening. florida would have been a safe location if the numbers continued to decline after the reopening - the way ontario's have.
the board of governors approved the orlando plan on June 4th, and should have already known better: https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nba-return-to-play-plan-orlando-1.45322326
Haha, you beat me to it. They made the decision in May and voted on it on June 4th. In May the numbers were going down from April and if they took Florida at face value, dumb I know, then they would feel confident. The numbers were absolutely cooked and I agree with you that they should've been suspicious but based off the presentation given by Florida I can see why they chanced it.
The person that should take more blame is the Florida governor. NBA did not enter the Florida bubble agreement in good faith because Florida cooked the numbers. Unfortunately that would be impossible to prove, they would say they had no idea it would spike soon after signing the agreement. What a coincidence.
execoftheyear wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:makeready wrote:
florida started to reopen on May 4th.
on may 18th Rebekah Jones was fired for refusing to manipulate the florida stats: https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/newswire/2020/06/12/fired-scientist-rebekah-jones-builds-coronavirus-dashboard-to-rival-floridarsquos/3174482001/
presumably the numbers were cooked since at least then, but lets give FL the benefit of the doubt. here's what the official numbers looked like in early june - a rise in cases triggered by the reopening. florida would have been a safe location if the numbers continued to decline after the reopening - the way ontario's have.
the board of governors approved the orlando plan on June 4th, and should have already known better: https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nba-return-to-play-plan-orlando-1.45322326
Haha, you beat me to it. They made the decision in May and voted on it on June 4th. In May the numbers were going down from April and if they took Florida at face value, dumb I know, then they would feel confident. The numbers were absolutely cooked and I agree with you that they should've been suspicious but based off the presentation given by Florida I can see why they chanced it.
The person that should take more blame is the Florida governor. NBA did not enter the Florida bubble agreement in good faith because Florida cooked the numbers. Unfortunately that would be impossible to prove, they would say they had no idea it would spike soon after signing the agreement. What a coincidence.
execoftheyear wrote:ash_k wrote:execoftheyear wrote:watching people risking their lives just for entertainment.
y'all drama queens going to need to stop with that nonsense.
-Donovan Mitchell
-Rudy Gobert
-Kevin Durant
-Nikola Jokic
- and hundreds of top athletes (NHL like Austin Matthews, NFL like Ezekiel Elliott,..) have tested positives for COVID. I saw Donovan Mitchell looking just fine the other day.
Mikel Arteta (you might have never heard of him) coach of Arsenal tested positives back in March/April...Lately, EPL fans have gotten to see him every 4 days coaching his team on the sideline. No problem looking just fine..
Y'all need to stop over-dramatizing. If there is an outbreak in the (fake) bubble. Adam will just send everybody back home.
Ummm Gobert still has yet to gain his sense of taste or smell and it's been, what, 3 months? People are treating this as like if you don't immediately die from it your fine but this can cause long lasting lung/brain/heart/kidney damage even in asymptomatic individuals. This is almost like some sick science experiment and the athletes are the guinea pigs. We won't really know how significant the effects of the virus will be until we see these athletes in game action, pushing their lungs to it's limits. There's also reports of people being reinfected.
.Sinant wrote:I treat the Phoenix/Cleveland/Boston Shaqs like I do Wizards MJ. Never happened.
ash_k wrote:execoftheyear wrote:ash_k wrote:
y'all drama queens going to need to stop with that nonsense.
-Donovan Mitchell
-Rudy Gobert
-Kevin Durant
-Nikola Jokic
- and hundreds of top athletes (NHL like Austin Matthews, NFL like Ezekiel Elliott,..) have tested positives for COVID. I saw Donovan Mitchell looking just fine the other day.
Mikel Arteta (you might have never heard of him) coach of Arsenal tested positives back in March/April...Lately, EPL fans have gotten to see him every 4 days coaching his team on the sideline. No problem looking just fine..
Y'all need to stop over-dramatizing. If there is an outbreak in the (fake) bubble. Adam will just send everybody back home.
Ummm Gobert still has yet to gain his sense of taste or smell and it's been, what, 3 months? People are treating this as like if you don't immediately die from it your fine but this can cause long lasting lung/brain/heart/kidney damage even in asymptomatic individuals. This is almost like some sick science experiment and the athletes are the guinea pigs. We won't really know how significant the effects of the virus will be until we see these athletes in game action, pushing their lungs to it's limits. There's also reports of people being reinfected.
Callum Hudson-Odoi caught Covid in March/April..and has been playing in games in the last couple of weeks in one of biggest football/soccer club in the world...there you "guinea pig"
We are all at "risk" everyday stepping outside. Those top athletes can get tested pre-games/post-games/on-demand with access to the best doctors..I would not worry too much about them if I were you. I would worry more about that worker taking packed public transportation everyday to work (unable to get that daily testing)
ash_k wrote:execoftheyear wrote:ash_k wrote:
y'all drama queens going to need to stop with that nonsense.
-Donovan Mitchell
-Rudy Gobert
-Kevin Durant
-Nikola Jokic
- and hundreds of top athletes (NHL like Austin Matthews, NFL like Ezekiel Elliott,..) have tested positives for COVID. I saw Donovan Mitchell looking just fine the other day.
Mikel Arteta (you might have never heard of him) coach of Arsenal tested positives back in March/April...Lately, EPL fans have gotten to see him every 4 days coaching his team on the sideline. No problem looking just fine..
Y'all need to stop over-dramatizing. If there is an outbreak in the (fake) bubble. Adam will just send everybody back home.
Ummm Gobert still has yet to gain his sense of taste or smell and it's been, what, 3 months? People are treating this as like if you don't immediately die from it your fine but this can cause long lasting lung/brain/heart/kidney damage even in asymptomatic individuals. This is almost like some sick science experiment and the athletes are the guinea pigs. We won't really know how significant the effects of the virus will be until we see these athletes in game action, pushing their lungs to it's limits. There's also reports of people being reinfected.
Callum Hudson-Odoi caught Covid in March/April..and has been playing in games in the last couple of weeks in one of biggest football/soccer club in the world...there you "guinea pig"
We are all at "risk" everyday stepping outside. Those top athletes can get tested pre-games/post-games/on-demand with access to the best doctors..I would not worry too much about them if I were you. I would worry more about that worker taking packed public transportation everyday to work (unable to get that daily testing)
beanbag wrote:ash_k wrote:execoftheyear wrote:
Ummm Gobert still has yet to gain his sense of taste or smell and it's been, what, 3 months? People are treating this as like if you don't immediately die from it your fine but this can cause long lasting lung/brain/heart/kidney damage even in asymptomatic individuals. This is almost like some sick science experiment and the athletes are the guinea pigs. We won't really know how significant the effects of the virus will be until we see these athletes in game action, pushing their lungs to it's limits. There's also reports of people being reinfected.
Callum Hudson-Odoi caught Covid in March/April..and has been playing in games in the last couple of weeks in one of biggest football/soccer club in the world...there you "guinea pig"
We are all at "risk" everyday stepping outside. Those top athletes can get tested pre-games/post-games/on-demand with access to the best doctors..I would not worry too much about them if I were you. I would worry more about that worker taking packed public transportation everyday to work (unable to get that daily testing)
It's perfectly okay to worry about both of them.
Wo1verine wrote:beanbag wrote:ash_k wrote:Callum Hudson-Odoi caught Covid in March/April..and has been playing in games in the last couple of weeks in one of biggest football/soccer club in the world...there you "guinea pig"
We are all at "risk" everyday stepping outside. Those top athletes can get tested pre-games/post-games/on-demand with access to the best doctors..I would not worry too much about them if I were you. I would worry more about that worker taking packed public transportation everyday to work (unable to get that daily testing)
It's perfectly okay to worry about both of them.
You do you - If you're paranoid about the corona so much not sure how you are going to live because who knows what happens in 5 months, 1 year, 5 years, 10 years or 35 years if you catch covid - I think most should live life we aren't here long to begin with.