Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Rule changes vote on page one

Context · Post #1461 » by **Context** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:13 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:
HEZI wrote:Reddish reminds me way too much of Harrison Barnes

Which honestly, is that a bad thing? Barnes biggest knock from people is that he's overpaid. Can play either forward spot, shoots the three extremely well and understands his role. Reddish will probably be a better on ball defender than Barnes, but it all comes down to whether or not he plays under control. If he's out there trying to do double 360 layups, that'll hurt him, but before the stoppage he was really coming into his own. Also what will his three point percentage be? If he can keep it at around 36/38%, with his ability to attack and run in transition, he's gonna be good. I think he can be a Caron Butler type with a better three if all things click for him.

maturity and experience -will lead to reddish revealed...cant wait for it...I expect him to have a much better career than barnes...

bringbackhoffa · Post #1462 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:16 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Wiseman, Edwards, LaMelo, and Hayes have a lot of potential too. And all are super young prospects like Reddish was.

I think Reddish has a lot of talent I also think he has a more passive mindset when say a prospect like Anthony Edwards is more of a alpha type guy.

Now that might mean more bad shots for Edwards but I think if we are talking high end I think you need to have more of a killer approach.

Wiseman to me looks like the new version of Hassan Whiteside.
Edwards gives me poor mans DeRozan vibes.
LaMelo gives me Livingston vibes (Before Injury) with a Nick Young irrational confidence.

Hayes I'll be the first to admit I didn't really follow this year at all, I'd just be going off mixes and other peoples opinion really.

bang on

bringbackhoffa · Post #1463 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:18 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:
HEZI wrote:Reddish reminds me way too much of Harrison Barnes

Which honestly, is that a bad thing? Barnes biggest knock from people is that he's overpaid. Can play either forward spot, shoots the three extremely well and understands his role. Reddish will probably be a better on ball defender than Barnes, but it all comes down to whether or not he plays under control. If he's out there trying to do double 360 layups, that'll hurt him, but before the stoppage he was really coming into his own. Also what will his three point percentage be? If he can keep it at around 36/38%, with his ability to attack and run in transition, he's gonna be good. I think he can be a Caron Butler type with a better three if all things click for him.

id take a harrison barnes at cam price..i even tried..

HEZI · Post #1464 » by **HEZI** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:43 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:
HEZI wrote:Reddish reminds me way too much of Harrison Barnes

Which honestly, is that a bad thing? Barnes biggest knock from people is that he's overpaid. Can play either forward spot, shoots the three extremely well and understands his role. Reddish will probably be a better on ball defender than Barnes, but it all comes down to whether or not he plays under control. If he's out there trying to do double 360 layups, that'll hurt him, but before the stoppage he was really coming into his own. Also what will his three point percentage be? If he can keep it at around 36/38%, with his ability to attack and run in transition, he's gonna be good. I think he can be a Caron Butler type with a better three if all things click for him.

It's not terrible but this draft has guys like that as well, quite a few of them.

bringbackhoffa · Post #1465 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:47 pm

this draft might be the worst of all time considering development will be shotty with next season likely not starting til Jan 2021 or maybe scrapped all together

Context · Post #1466 » by **Context** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:58 pm

HEZI wrote:
Manhattan Project wrote:
HEZI wrote:Reddish reminds me way too much of Harrison Barnes

Which honestly, is that a bad thing? Barnes biggest knock from people is that he's overpaid. Can play either forward spot, shoots the three extremely well and understands his role. Reddish will probably be a better on ball defender than Barnes, but it all comes down to whether or not he plays under control. If he's out there trying to do double 360 layups, that'll hurt him, but before the stoppage he was really coming into his own. Also what will his three point percentage be? If he can keep it at around 36/38%, with his ability to attack and run in transition, he's gonna be good. I think he can be a Caron Butler type with a better three if all things click for him.

It's not terrible but this draft has guys like that as well, quite a few of them.

IMO- people are sleeping on this draft...

Post #1467 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:58 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:this draft might be the worst of all time considering development will be shotty with next season likely not starting til Jan 2021 or maybe scrapped all together

3toheadmelo · Post #1468 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:59 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:this draft might be the worst of all time considering development will be shotty with next season likely not starting til Jan 2021 or maybe scrapped all together

These players are basically having an extended offseason to work on their games. Wouldn’t be surprised if they started the season better than expected

bringbackhoffa · Post #1469 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:00 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:this draft might be the worst of all time considering development will be shotty with next season likely not starting til Jan 2021 or maybe scrapped all together

tbh you sometimes see guys jump 10 spots just because of the NCAA tourney they wont have the benefit of that, hence i think picks 25-40 are actually quite valuable...

bringbackhoffa · Post #1470 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:01 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:this draft might be the worst of all time considering development will be shotty with next season likely not starting til Jan 2021 or maybe scrapped all together

These players are basically having an extended offseason to work on their games. Wouldn’t be surprised if they started the season better than expected

nah these guys are all shot gunning beers

Post #1471 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:01 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:this draft might be the worst of all time considering development will be shotty with next season likely not starting til Jan 2021 or maybe scrapped all together

Context wrote:IMO- people are sleeping on this draft...

mpharris36 wrote:

Post #1472 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:02 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:this draft might be the worst of all time considering development will be shotty with next season likely not starting til Jan 2021 or maybe scrapped all together

tbh you sometimes see guys jump 10 spots just because of the NCAA tourney they wont have the benefit of that, hence i think picks 25-40 are actually quite valuable...

This class in underrated in the sense there might not be as many flat out studs in the draft. But in terms of guys that you can help build your team I think this draft has quit a few good players that will have strong roles in the NBA.

I think there will be less swing and misses this draft.

Post #1473 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:04 pm

Capn'O wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:this draft might be the worst of all time considering development will be shotty with next season likely not starting til Jan 2021 or maybe scrapped all together

Context wrote:IMO- people are sleeping on this draft...

mpharris36 wrote:

3toheadmelo · Post #1474 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:05 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:this draft might be the worst of all time considering development will be shotty with next season likely not starting til Jan 2021 or maybe scrapped all together

These players are basically having an extended offseason to work on their games. Wouldn’t be surprised if they started the season better than expected

nah these guys are all shot gunning beers

Just saying that this will be pretty good for development and no other draft class has had this benefit before.

bringbackhoffa · Post #1475 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:06 pm

We dont even know which player will have his development stunted by the Knicks IRL...

Context · Post #1476 » by **Context** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:06 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:this draft might be the worst of all time considering development will be shotty with next season likely not starting til Jan 2021 or maybe scrapped all together

IMO, this draft will be better than last years- when its over...(meaning-after the initial window of like 2-3 years between the two)

Context · Post #1477 » by **Context** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:08 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:These players are basically having an extended offseason to work on their games. Wouldn’t be surprised if they started the season better than expected

nah these guys are all shot gunning beers

Just saying that this will be pretty good for development and no other draft class has had this benefit before.

definitely a unique dynamic...we will see who it sharpens...

Post #1478 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:08 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:We dont even know which player will have his development stunted by the Knicks IRL...

3toheadmelo · Post #1479 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:09 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:We dont even know which player will have his development stunted by the Knicks IRL...

Knicks hired Walt Perrin who was responsible for Utah drafting Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, Gordon Hayward, etc. So I wouldn’t bet on the Knicks screwing up things. Our new FO looks promising.

Context · Post #1480 » by **Context** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:12 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:We dont even know which player will have his development stunted by the Knicks IRL...

Knicks hired Walt Perrin who was responsible for Utah drafting Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, Gordon Hayward, etc. So I wouldn’t bet on the Knicks screwing up things. Our new FO looks promising.

if we some how mange to remain a terrible organization after 3 years- then i will believe dolan
must sell in order for our direction to change...