Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

MotownMadness · Post #321 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:32 pm

At this point i think my preferences are

A) Edwards
B) Hayes
C) Hali

Pharaoh · Post #322 » by **Pharaoh** » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:45 pm

Find it funny that people have said they don't want Okoro because he can't shoot and then state they want Ball.

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rmfc · Post #323 » by **rmfc** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:52 pm

If you are a guard and are getting drafted in top 5, shooting ability should be one of your top strengths ... especially for today's NBA.

rmfc · Post #324 » by **rmfc** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:56 pm

Not sure if this link was already posted:
https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Pretty good analysis.

hoophabit · Post #325 » by **hoophabit** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:28 pm

rmfc wrote:Not sure if this link was already posted:
https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Pretty good analysis.

First one I've seen that has Hayes at #1. This draft is hard to call. Should be fun to watch.

DBC10 · Post #326 » by **DBC10** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:33 pm

I like Hayes and Halliburton as my guards. Outside of that, I have no idea about the rest of the positions since guards are so dire for us right now.

Pharaoh · Post #327 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:56 am

Hayes is intriguing for a lot of reasons but we're deep af at both spots.

Luke, Brown, Rose, Svi, Bone, Thomas might all be on the roster fighting for minutes

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bjones521 · Post #328 » by **bjones521** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:10 am

You guys have convinced me. I didn't realize Ball was Ben Simmons almost when it comes to shooting. I thought he could shoot somewhat but that push shot is awful.

Im all in for Killian Hayes. He has no right hand but at least he can shoot. Plus him and Sekou are boys.

The_Irony · Post #329 » by **The_Irony** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:25 pm

bjones521 wrote:You guys have convinced me. I didn't realize Ball was Ben Simmons almost when it comes to shooting. I thought he could shoot somewhat but that push shot is awful.

Im all in for Killian Hayes. He has no right hand but at least he can shoot. Plus him and Sekou are boys.

Lonzo had a horrible shot and increased his 3 ball by 8%. Shooting can be developed. The way Lamelo creates for others is a special talent and isnt something you necessarily pass on. Lamelo makes Luke, wood, sekou etc instantly better.

Pharaoh wrote:Hayes is intriguing for a lot of reasons but we're deep af at both spots.

Luke, Brown, Rose, Svi, Bone, Thomas might all be on the roster fighting for minutes

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Just because we have a lot of guards doesn't mean we're deep and this team is so bad that we parade second rounders like theyre the legitimate future. The Pistons are the only team in the NBA that has ignored getting a starter level playmaking guard for over 10 years. Downright embarrassing and theres no way they pass up a point guard because bone and khyri thomas are on the team. Rose has a year left and Kennard can and should easily be traded. We are not deep in its truest sense.

flow · Post #330 » by **flow** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:30 pm

Pharaoh wrote:Hayes is intriguing for a lot of reasons but we're deep af at both spots.

Luke, Brown, Rose, Svi, Bone, Thomas might all be on the roster fighting for minutes

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But we're in a rebuild, remember. This draft should be for the future, not opening night.

Bone, Thomas, Rose & Brown are irrelevant to the decision.

Invictus88 · Post #331 » by **Invictus88** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:17 am

The_Irony wrote:
bjones521 wrote:You guys have convinced me. I didn't realize Ball was Ben Simmons almost when it comes to shooting. I thought he could shoot somewhat but that push shot is awful.

Im all in for Killian Hayes. He has no right hand but at least he can shoot. Plus him and Sekou are boys.

Lonzo had a horrible shot and increased his 3 ball by 8%. Shooting can be developed. The way Lamelo creates for others is a special talent and isnt something you necessarily pass on. Lamelo makes Luke, wood, sekou etc instantly better.

Pharaoh wrote:Hayes is intriguing for a lot of reasons but we're deep af at both spots.

Luke, Brown, Rose, Svi, Bone, Thomas might all be on the roster fighting for minutes

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Just because we have a lot of guards doesn't mean we're deep and this team is so bad that we parade second rounders like theyre the legitimate future. The Pistons are the only team in the NBA that has ignored getting a starter level playmaking guard for over 10 years. Downright embarrassing and theres no way they pass up a point guard because bone and khyri thomas are on the team. Rose has a year left and Kennard can and should easily be traded. We are not deep in its truest sense.

This.

We are at the very bottom of the barrel talent-wise. So we aren't deep anywhere w/regards to getting quality minutes.
This draft is so flawed from that aspect that you really can't afford to draft by position of need. Beggars can't be choosers. Just grab the player available most likely to give you value back later on. If that happens to be a guard then so be it.

DBC10 · Post #332 » by **DBC10** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:31 am

Pharaoh wrote:Hayes is intriguing for a lot of reasons but we're deep af at both spots.

Luke, Brown, Rose, Svi, Bone, Thomas might all be on the roster fighting for minutes

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I'm not locking up the roster spot for any of those guys in the near future. This goes for virtually all positions in our team right now, 1 to 5.

As far as I'm concerned, it's an open field in terms of locking up any semblance of young and new talent.

MotownMadness · Post #333 » by **MotownMadness** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:54 am

MSU losing a 5 star recruit for next year

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JohnReese · Post #334 » by **JohnReese** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:45 am

Haliburton
Advija
Wiseman

Those 3 are really interesting to me. I love the leadership that Advija brings to the table. Wiseman got the tools to be great and Haliburton is one of the safest picks of this draft.

Pharaoh · Post #335 » by **Pharaoh** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:13 am

IF a guard is the BPA then sure take him but from what I've seen I'm hoping Okoro falls to us at 5.

Wiseman
Edwards
Ball
Okungwu
Okoro
Hayes

Those are my top 6 prospects based on what I've read

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MotownMadness · Post #336 » by **MotownMadness** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:21 pm

Getrichordie did a big board in the the Draft forum over the last month or so and here it is. (Actually looks pretty good)

We are finally finished polling! Cheers to everyone who participated! Thanks!

Thoughts?

CONSENSUS BIG BOARD

Anthony Edwards
2. LaMelo Ball
3. James Wiseman
4. Killian Hayes
5. Deni Avdija
6. Tyrese Haliburton
7. Isaac Okoro
8. Cole Anthony
9. Onyeka Okongwu
10. Devin Vassell
11. Obi Toppin
12. R.J. Hampton
13. Tyrese Maxey
14. Kira Lewis Jr.
15. Aaron Nesmith
16. Aleksej Pokusevski
17. Patrick Williams
18. Josh Green
19. Jaden McDaniels
20. Paul Reed
21. Grant Riller
22. Saddiq Bey
23. Theo Maledon
24. Precious Achiuwa
25. Tyler Bey
26. Jalen Smith
27. Leandro Bolmaro
28. Jahmi'us Ramsey
29. Isaiah Stewart
30. Tyrell Terry

LaSheed · Post #337 » by **LaSheed** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:44 pm

I'm down for Hayes as well.

I'm nervous of Lamelo. Dudes quit on his team on every level he's played.

Doesn't matter if I'm top 5 im taking

Edwards
Wiseman
Hayes
Toppin
Okoro

I wanna like Haliburton but will he be able to create separation and get his shot off at the next level?

rmfc · Post #338 » by **rmfc** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:04 am

LaSheed wrote:I'm down for Hayes as well.

I'm nervous of Lamelo. Dudes quit on his team on every level he's played.

Doesn't matter if I'm top 5 im taking

Edwards
Wiseman
Hayes
Toppin
Okoro

I love the top 3 in your list. My order is the same.

rmfc · Post #339 » by **rmfc** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:11 am

Pharaoh wrote:Hayes is intriguing for a lot of reasons but we're deep af at both spots.

Luke, Brown, Rose, Svi, Bone, Thomas might all be on the roster fighting for minutes

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I don't think any team in the NBA would consider itself "deep" if those are the guys filling those spots. To me, those spots are still empty on the Pistons roster(especially after looking at those names).

dripdrop · Post #340 » by **dripdrop** » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:48 am

Anyone have an opinion on Hayes vs Kira Lewis Jr?

Hayes often gets mocked top 3, but Kira seems to have more speed, handles, ambidexterity, 3 point shot and I feel like if we gave him a starting job, he'd quickly improve within a couple years like Fox or Sexton did recently. Bonus would be potentially being able to trade down to get him and maybe grab someone like Saddiq Bey if we get an extra pick.

I like both of them, but are their ceilings De'Aaron Fox vs D'Angelo Russel? Because Fox has sneakily been the better player this past year with better FG%, 3P%, AST, steals/blocks, much better defense, and better advanced stats across the board.