I Still Know What They Should Do This Summer Atlanta Hawks

[Couch Potato]

Still Young is pushing the GM's buttons to win now when Hawks should be tanking another season or two. Kinda like when the Magic forgot to tank and rushed things and traded for Ibaka then it didn't work and lost value. Gutsy move but i'd consider trading Young for a big haul. But get equal value for a rookie contract is hard to pull off. Real risky though. A GM can get fired if this goes bad. Young is the franchise but a bit punky for my liking.

[NotACat]

Still Young is pushing the GM's buttons to win now when Hawks should be tanking another season or two. Kinda like when the Magic forgot to tank and rushed things and traded for Ibaka then it didn't work and lost value. Gutsy move but i'd consider trading Young for a big haul. But get equal value for a rookie contract is hard to pull off. Real risky though. A GM can get fired if this goes bad. Young is the franchise but a bit punky for my liking.

I can't see any trade where Atlanta is getting even near equal value for Trae Young. Even if they trade him, the best case scenario is they get a franchise cornerstone... like Trae Young.

They're better off building around him and being willing to take in slightly overpaid players if their contract is up before Trae's rookie deal

[Couch Potato]

Still Young is pushing the GM's buttons to win now when Hawks should be tanking another season or two. Kinda like when the Magic forgot to tank and rushed things and traded for Ibaka then it didn't work and lost value. Gutsy move but i'd consider trading Young for a big haul. But get equal value for a rookie contract is hard to pull off. Real risky though. A GM can get fired if this goes bad. Young is the franchise but a bit punky for my liking.

I can't see any trade where Atlanta is getting even near equal value for Trae Young. Even if they trade him, the best case scenario is they get a franchise cornerstone... like Trae Young.

They're better off building around him and being willing to take in slightly overpaid players if their contract is up before Trae's rookie deal

Well Hawks front office has until 22-23 summer to decide if they wanna keep Young or not. He already cried about losing and they traded for Capela and Dedmon. But still I think Hawks are a long ways off doing damage. Hawks need to file in line behind the Bucks,76ers,Raptors,Celtics,Nets,Heat,Pacers,Magic yet.

[Ball4life32]

Still Young is pushing the GM's buttons to win now when Hawks should be tanking another season or two. Kinda like when the Magic forgot to tank and rushed things and traded for Ibaka then it didn't work and lost value. Gutsy move but i'd consider trading Young for a big haul. But get equal value for a rookie contract is hard to pull off. Real risky though. A GM can get fired if this goes bad. Young is the franchise but a bit punky for my liking.

I can't see any trade where Atlanta is getting even near equal value for Trae Young. Even if they trade him, the best case scenario is they get a franchise cornerstone... like Trae Young.

They're better off building around him and being willing to take in slightly overpaid players if their contract is up before Trae's rookie deal

Well Hawks front office has until 22-23 summer to decide if they wanna keep Young or not. He already cried about losing and they traded for Capela and Dedmon. But still I think Hawks are a long ways off doing damage. Hawks need to file in line behind the Bucks,76ers,Raptors,Celtics,Nets,Heat,Pacers,Magic yet.

He got mad after one game when Collins was suspended & Huerter was injured...they finished 12-12 w/ Trae playing (after starting 8-32). Pretty different team at the end of the year when they had a full team. I know people just like to look at the record.

The Hawks aren’t trading Young or trading their young guys for win now players. (barring an overpay)They already played more young guys than anyone + have their own pick. They have enough young guys & decided to trade a non-lottery pick for Capela. Dedmon isn’t part of the future....& I don’t think they’ll be bad enough to tank for 1-2 more years with a full team (& obv barring injuries) but we’ll see.

[Couch Potato]

I can't see any trade where Atlanta is getting even near equal value for Trae Young. Even if they trade him, the best case scenario is they get a franchise cornerstone... like Trae Young.

They're better off building around him and being willing to take in slightly overpaid players if their contract is up before Trae's rookie deal

Well Hawks front office has until 22-23 summer to decide if they wanna keep Young or not. He already cried about losing and they traded for Capela and Dedmon. But still I think Hawks are a long ways off doing damage. Hawks need to file in line behind the Bucks,76ers,Raptors,Celtics,Nets,Heat,Pacers,Magic yet.

He got mad after one game when Collins was suspended & Huerter was injured...they finished 12-12 w/ Trae playing (after starting 8-32). Pretty different team at the end of the year when they had a full team. I know people just like to look at the record.

The Hawks aren’t trading Young or trading their young guys for win now players (barring an overpay) You are running with a false narrative. I don’t think they’ll be bad enough to tank for 1-2 years when they have a full team but we’ll see. Hawks played well with their young guys....

Yeah the suspension and injuries. But every team goes through injuries or sits players these days. Yeah you said not to look at the record but 20 - 47 isn't nothing to brag home to mama either. All it will take is a big losing streak and Young will throw a fit again. He's a immature kid. Hawks GM hands are tied. It's up to the owner to keep Young or go different route eventually. I think Young is the next player to ask for a trade next season. I hope i'm wrong for Hawks fans. But it's just my opinion.

[Buzzard]

Well Hawks front office has until 22-23 summer to decide if they wanna keep Young or not. He already cried about losing and they traded for Capela and Dedmon. But still I think Hawks are a long ways off doing damage. Hawks need to file in line behind the Bucks,76ers,Raptors,Celtics,Nets,Heat,Pacers,Magic yet.

He got mad after one game when Collins was suspended & Huerter was injured...they finished 12-12 w/ Trae playing (after starting 8-32). Pretty different team at the end of the year when they had a full team. I know people just like to look at the record.

The Hawks aren’t trading Young or trading their young guys for win now players (barring an overpay) You are running with a false narrative. I don’t think they’ll be bad enough to tank for 1-2 years when they have a full team but we’ll see. Hawks played well with their young guys....

Yeah the suspension and injuries. But every team goes through injuries or sits players these days. Yeah you said not to look at the record but 20 - 47 isn't nothing to brag home to mama either. All it will take is a big losing streak and Young will throw a fit again. He's a immature kid. Hawks GM hands are tied. It's up to the owner to keep Young or go different route eventually. I think Young is the next player to ask for a trade next season. I hope i'm wrong for Hawks fans. But it's just my opinion.

Not buying Trae forcing his way out before he even inks his 1st big extension. That is almost unheard of; you tell me one All Star player who did that because I cannot think of one.

I get the repeated takes on the overall record; but the Hawks went 6 and 24 in their first 30 games. 25 of them without Collins and one without Trae. Their last 20 games they were 9 and 11. They added Teague, Dedmon, and Capela before the deadline; so take this in its context. Teague played in 19 of those last 20, Dedmon played in 10, and Capela was not in any of them.

I don't think playing .500 ball is out of reach by any stretch. For me the question is can they finish over .500? If they do a good job in free agency, I think the answer is yes.

[Ball4life32]

Well Hawks front office has until 22-23 summer to decide if they wanna keep Young or not. He already cried about losing and they traded for Capela and Dedmon. But still I think Hawks are a long ways off doing damage. Hawks need to file in line behind the Bucks,76ers,Raptors,Celtics,Nets,Heat,Pacers,Magic yet.

He got mad after one game when Collins was suspended & Huerter was injured...they finished 12-12 w/ Trae playing (after starting 8-32). Pretty different team at the end of the year when they had a full team. I know people just like to look at the record.

The Hawks aren’t trading Young or trading their young guys for win now players (barring an overpay) You are running with a false narrative. I don’t think they’ll be bad enough to tank for 1-2 years when they have a full team but we’ll see. Hawks played well with their young guys....

Yeah the suspension and injuries. But every team goes through injuries or sits players these days. Yeah you said not to look at the record but 20 - 47 isn't nothing to brag home to mama either. All it will take is a big losing streak and Young will throw a fit again. He's a immature kid. Hawks GM hands are tied. It's up to the owner to keep Young or go different route eventually. I think Young is the next player to ask for a trade next season. I hope i'm wrong for Hawks fans. But it's just my opinion.

Every team has by far their 2nd best player suspended 25 games? Pretty sure they don’t. Sitting players is nothing similar to that.

And again he got mad after one game when they were starting two rookies (both who struggled early & played much better in 2nd half) + Jabari Parker/Damian Jones frontcourt. They won’t have to endure that next year .....

Literally not one Hawks fan shares your concern. Hawks aren’t considering trading him because he got mad after one game(when they didn’t even have a full team) & there’s nothing pointing to him not signing a max extension next year.

[Couch Potato]

Well hopefully Young stick with the Hawks for your sakes. He just seems like a kid that flaps his trap. I'm sure if you guys don't make playoffs he will spout off again. But my opinion you can have him. I know everyone has a heart and wants to win. But to blame the team and do something to win. That's kinda throwing some players under the bus from the team. Since after all you have to trade.

[Ball4life32]

Well hopefully Young stick with the Hawks for your sakes. He just seems like a kid that flaps his trap. I'm sure if you guys don't make playoffs he will spout off again. But my opinion you can have him. I know everyone has a heart and wants to win. But to blame the team and do something to win. That's kinda throwing some players under the bus from the team. Since after all you have to trade.

He didn’t do any of those things though. I mean the fact you think Hawks traded for Dedmon or are going to trade for a bunch of win now guys because Trae demanded it is all you need to know. But I guess keep running with false narratives.....

[Couch Potato]

Well hopefully Young stick with the Hawks for your sakes. He just seems like a kid that flaps his trap. I'm sure if you guys don't make playoffs he will spout off again. But my opinion you can have him. I know everyone has a heart and wants to win. But to blame the team and do something to win. That's kinda throwing some players under the bus from the team. Since after all you have to trade.

He didn’t do any of those things though. I mean the fact you think Hawks traded for Dedmon or are going to trade for a bunch of win now guys because Trae demanded it is all you need to know. But I guess keep running with false narratives.....

You forgot Capela.

[jayu70]

Still Young is pushing the GM's buttons to win now when Hawks should be tanking another season or two. Kinda like when the Magic forgot to tank and rushed things and traded for Ibaka then it didn't work and lost value. Gutsy move but i'd consider trading Young for a big haul. But get equal value for a rookie contract is hard to pull off. Real risky though. A GM can get fired if this goes bad. Young is the franchise but a bit punky for my liking.

That's not Gutsy....it's stupid.

[giberish]

Well Hawks front office has until 22-23 summer to decide if they wanna keep Young or not. He already cried about losing and they traded for Capela and Dedmon. But still I think Hawks are a long ways off doing damage. Hawks need to file in line behind the Bucks,76ers,Raptors,Celtics,Nets,Heat,Pacers,Magic yet.

He got mad after one game when Collins was suspended & Huerter was injured...they finished 12-12 w/ Trae playing (after starting 8-32). Pretty different team at the end of the year when they had a full team. I know people just like to look at the record.

The Hawks aren’t trading Young or trading their young guys for win now players (barring an overpay) You are running with a false narrative. I don’t think they’ll be bad enough to tank for 1-2 years when they have a full team but we’ll see. Hawks played well with their young guys....

Yeah the suspension and injuries. But every team goes through injuries or sits players these days. Yeah you said not to look at the record but 20 - 47 isn't nothing to brag home to mama either. All it will take is a big losing streak and Young will throw a fit again. He's a immature kid. Hawks GM hands are tied. It's up to the owner to keep Young or go different route eventually. I think Young is the next player to ask for a trade next season. I hope i'm wrong for Hawks fans. But it's just my opinion.

It should be so easy for the Hawks to be a lot better next season. This year they had maybe 5 credible rotation players (Young/Heurter/Reddish/Hunter/Collins). None a solid mid-career vet to provide stability and experience. And with that few guys a setback or two (such as Collins being suspended or Reddish being horrible early in the year) leaves some very bleak lineups.

Go into next year with the returning 5 guys a year older and more experienced, add one more high-upside young guy, add Capella, add 2 or 3 more solid mid-career rotation players with cap space and the Hawks are a massively better team. More talent, much more experience, much more depth (it's a lot easier to compete with a few guys out when you're starting with 10 useful guys and not just 5).

Granted, massively better for the Hawks could just mean near .500, but given Young's youth and limitations it''s going to look silly if he starts complaining about a .500 team.

[jayu70]

Well Hawks front office has until 22-23 summer to decide if they wanna keep Young or not. He already cried about losing and they traded for Capela and Dedmon. But still I think Hawks are a long ways off doing damage. Hawks need to file in line behind the Bucks,76ers,Raptors,Celtics,Nets,Heat,Pacers,Magic yet.

He got mad after one game when Collins was suspended & Huerter was injured...they finished 12-12 w/ Trae playing (after starting 8-32). Pretty different team at the end of the year when they had a full team. I know people just like to look at the record.

The Hawks aren’t trading Young or trading their young guys for win now players (barring an overpay) You are running with a false narrative. I don’t think they’ll be bad enough to tank for 1-2 years when they have a full team but we’ll see. Hawks played well with their young guys....

Yeah the suspension and injuries. But every team goes through injuries or sits players these days. Yeah you said not to look at the record but 20 - 47 isn't nothing to brag home to mama either. All it will take is a big losing streak and Young will throw a fit again. He's a immature kid. [b]Hawks GM hands are tied[/b]. It's up to the owner to keep Young or go different route eventually. I think Young is the next player to ask for a trade next season. I hope i'm wrong for Hawks fans. But it's just my opinion.

He just concluded his 2nd season. He's not immature, he's been impatient.
Pray tell how the GM's hands are tied? He has already upgraded one of last seasons biggest positions in Center by trading for Capela, traded for an adequate enough backup PG (may or may not be brought back) and has $40 million in capspace to upgrade the rest of the roster.

[Buzzard]

Well hopefully Young stick with the Hawks for your sakes. He just seems like a kid that flaps his trap. I'm sure if you guys don't make playoffs he will spout off again. But my opinion you can have him. I know everyone has a heart and wants to win. But to blame the team and do something to win. That's kinda throwing some players under the bus from the team. Since after all you have to trade.

He didn’t do any of those things though. I mean the fact you think Hawks traded for Dedmon or are going to trade for a bunch of win now guys because Trae demanded it is all you need to know. But I guess keep running with false narratives.....

You forgot Capela.

The Center rumor mill was happening in early 2019, a good year before Trae complained. Capela is 26 years old and a proven starting center. All the Hawks have had since Collins hit the floor is a bunch of centers who their own teams had given up on.

The Hawks have to thank all three trade teams for that one but obviously Houston the most.

[Ball4life32]

Well hopefully Young stick with the Hawks for your sakes. He just seems like a kid that flaps his trap. I'm sure if you guys don't make playoffs he will spout off again. But my opinion you can have him. I know everyone has a heart and wants to win. But to blame the team and do something to win. That's kinda throwing some players under the bus from the team. Since after all you have to trade.

He didn’t do any of those things though. I mean the fact you think Hawks traded for Dedmon or are going to trade for a bunch of win now guys because Trae demanded it is all you need to know. But I guess keep running with false narratives.....

You forgot Capela.

Because Capela can help the team win now + he's still young. (why hawks were ok giving up an asset) Plus the Hawks played 5 guys 22 or younger 25+ mins last year & they have their own pick in his draft. They don't want more rookies + a non lottery pick is solid value for Capela imo.

[Couch Potato]

It's a wait and see game. I could care less about the Hawks, they look up to many other teams in the east. They got years to spin wheels doing nothing. Hawks should be tanking. But with Young. He opened his mouth. Case closed. Do whatever you want. The day you says he wants out don't think I jinxed ya. He looks like a punk that would weasel his way out to a easy win team. Heck look at Durant. Do what you will here. But I said my piece and my opinion stands. Yeah risky to trade Young. But cheap and controlled before he demands out. Now be time the to test the waters quietly or listen and say nothing. Weird things happen in the NBA.

[Ball4life32]

It's a wait and see game. I could care less about the Hawks, they look up to many other teams in the east. They got years to spin wheels doing nothing. Hawks should be tanking. But with Young. He opened his mouth. Case closed. Do whatever you want. The day you says he wants out don't think I jinxed ya. He looks like a punk that would weasel his way out to a easy win team. Heck look at Durant. Do what you will here. But I said my piece and my opinion stands. Yeah risky to trade Young. But cheap and controlled before he demands out. Now be time the to test the waters quietly or listen and say nothing. Weird things happen in the NBA.

I mean this is exactly what the Hawks are doing.....They played more young guys last year than anyone like I said.

Your opinion is clearly based on nothing so.....I don’t see anything to back up Trae won’t sign a max next yr. He has said he wants to be in Atlanta long term & I can assure you Hawks won’t trade him. But sure let’s go look at Durant because clearly Trae is the same person right?

[Couch Potato]

Yes my opinion is nothing in your mind. I'll take my opinion. Heck Young cried and Hawks traded for Capela. Not exciting. But trying to win. If he's on the outs of no playoffs long before trade deadline his big mouth may cherp again. If not nothing happens. But this is a forum for chatter. I'm just predicting he's the next guy that wants out.

[Ball4life32]

Yes my opinion is nothing in your mind. I'll take my opinion. Heck Young cried and Hawks traded for Capela. Not exciting. But trying to win. If he's on the outs of no playoffs long before trade deadline his big mouth may cherp again. If not nothing happens. But this is a forum for chatter. I'm just predicting he's the next guy that wants out.

Because of baseless claims like Hawks gm hands are tied & now he has to trade their assets for win now guys or trade Trae. This isn’t the scenario.

They traded a non-lottery pick in a supposed weak draft for Capela. You act like they gave up the farm....

Ok you don’t like Trae but just bc he got mad after one game doesn’t mean he is always crying or he is going to pitch a fit if the Hawks don’t make the playoffs next season.

I seriously seriously doubt he passes up a 5 year max next yr.

[Crizzle]

How long did it take before Booker started running his mouth ?