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Post#41 » by wco81 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:57 pm

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I agree, but that was true of Kawhi too ... I just don't know if the team will get a chance to find out that depth of information. Personally, Edwards is not a player I want for the Warriors.


I was on the Kawhi bandwagon while he was still in school. He was a very cerebral player and was a really good passer and initiator. So I disagree that Edwards is like Kawhi or vice a versa.


For sure, it was always clear Kawhi took basketball seriously. Anybody that predicates their game on defense first is someone I want on my team.

Edwards, otoh, just seems unserious. He's prone to taking the easy way out on the court which usually means jacking up a bad shot early in the shot clock. It could be he'll mature mentally but he's not at the top of my list because of it despite the tremendous physical tools.


Maybe we shouldn't expect too much out of this draft.

There could be a stud in this draft, like Kawhi, who was the #15 pick of this draft. Obviously nobody expected him to become an MVP-level player, probably at least a top 3 player in the league.

Lot of the top 5 players in that 2011 draft are average starters at best. Absolute bust is Derrick Williams at #2.

So either they get another long shot who becomes an All-NBA player later on or someone who's just a role player or maybe even worse a bust.

Hope they're not putting all their eggs into the draft. They should look to sign or acquire some vets who can be expected to be in the rotation, including in the playoffs.
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Post#42 » by B-King » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:55 pm

I am worried about this draft. It reminds me of 2010 without a Walls or Cousins. If we draw in the top 4 we should be able to get someone that can help. At 5,we might be rolling the dice. We drafted Udoh at 6 cause he interviewed well and dressed nice. This isn't an office job. Get me some skills and JYD attitude all day.
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Post#43 » by Flash Falcon X » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:51 pm

I doubt Okongwu would go Top 5, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes a perennial All-Star.

He’s not tall and flashy so he’ll be overlooked, but there’s just something about his hustle and his touch. He reminds me of those guys in the gym who look like they’re garbage, but their conditioning and hustle is off the charts that they get buckets all game just from energy alone.

He drives aggressively in the paint, and once he gets there he makes his moves quick, and he’s so energetic that his use of little pump fakes and pauses gets his defenders jumping in the air. Super crafty, and he has intention with each move. Doesn’t look like he blindly attacks. He slashed inside, sees and reads his defender, and makes a simple but effective play.

He looks like he’d have potential to be like a prime David West or Paul Millsap, not in their games, but the fact that West and Millsap were two guys who weren’t flashy but became All-Stars because they could get buckets. Barely any highlight worthy plays and they didn’t look physically imposing, but they could consistently put the ball in the hoop.
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Post#44 » by B-King » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:21 am

Flash Falcon X wrote:I doubt Okongwu would go Top 5, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes a perennial All-Star.

He’s not tall and flashy so he’ll be overlooked, but there’s just something about his hustle and his touch. He reminds me of those guys in the gym who look like they’re garbage, but their conditioning and hustle is off the charts that they get buckets all game just from energy alone.

He drives aggressively in the paint, and once he gets there he makes his moves quick, and he’s so energetic that his use of little pump fakes and pauses gets his defenders jumping in the air. Super crafty, and he has intention with each move. Doesn’t look like he blindly attacks. He slashed inside, sees and reads his defender, and makes a simple but effective play.

He looks like he’d have potential to be like a prime David West or Paul Millsap, not in their games, but the fact that West and Millsap were two guys who weren’t flashy but became All-Stars because they could get buckets. Barely any highlight worthy plays and they didn’t look physically imposing, but they could consistently put the ball in the hoop.


It's funny that Okongwu gets overlooked, but people like him. What hurts his cause is that he is an old school 4. David West is a very good comparison. I would rather have this kid than Toppin, who most people think is a lock for the top 5. Kind is a legit 6'9" with good wingspan.
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Post#45 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:29 am

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Flash Falcon X wrote:I doubt Okongwu would go Top 5, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes a perennial All-Star.

He’s not tall and flashy so he’ll be overlooked, but there’s just something about his hustle and his touch. He reminds me of those guys in the gym who look like they’re garbage, but their conditioning and hustle is off the charts that they get buckets all game just from energy alone.

He drives aggressively in the paint, and once he gets there he makes his moves quick, and he’s so energetic that his use of little pump fakes and pauses gets his defenders jumping in the air. Super crafty, and he has intention with each move. Doesn’t look like he blindly attacks. He slashed inside, sees and reads his defender, and makes a simple but effective play.

He looks like he’d have potential to be like a prime David West or Paul Millsap, not in their games, but the fact that West and Millsap were two guys who weren’t flashy but became All-Stars because they could get buckets. Barely any highlight worthy plays and they didn’t look physically imposing, but they could consistently put the ball in the hoop.


It's funny that Okongwu gets overlooked, but people like him. What hurts his cause is that he is an old school 4. David West is a very good comparison. I would rather have this kid than Toppin, who most people think is a lock for the top 5. Kind is a legit 6'9" with good wingspan.


I too much prefer Okongwu to Toppin.
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Post#46 » by Flash Falcon X » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:18 pm

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Flash Falcon X wrote:I doubt Okongwu would go Top 5, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes a perennial All-Star.

He’s not tall and flashy so he’ll be overlooked, but there’s just something about his hustle and his touch. He reminds me of those guys in the gym who look like they’re garbage, but their conditioning and hustle is off the charts that they get buckets all game just from energy alone.

He drives aggressively in the paint, and once he gets there he makes his moves quick, and he’s so energetic that his use of little pump fakes and pauses gets his defenders jumping in the air. Super crafty, and he has intention with each move. Doesn’t look like he blindly attacks. He slashed inside, sees and reads his defender, and makes a simple but effective play.

He looks like he’d have potential to be like a prime David West or Paul Millsap, not in their games, but the fact that West and Millsap were two guys who weren’t flashy but became All-Stars because they could get buckets. Barely any highlight worthy plays and they didn’t look physically imposing, but they could consistently put the ball in the hoop.


It's funny that Okongwu gets overlooked, but people like him. What hurts his cause is that he is an old school 4. David West is a very good comparison. I would rather have this kid than Toppin, who most people think is a lock for the top 5. Kind is a legit 6'9" with good wingspan.


Yeah maybe perennial All-Star is a little too high of a reach from my original post, but definitely could be a difference maker.

I just like how he moves quickly and aggressively. Doesn't take too long to make his attack, and could finish around the rim with craftiness, so he doesn't have to rely on wide open dunks just to get points. In Kerr's offense, his style of aggressive play could help disorient the defense in the paint, and with elite shooters like Steph and Klay on the outside, Okongwu would have space inside to do work.

But like I mentioned earlier, I doubt he goes Top 5, but he could be a steal if drafted later in the lottery.
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Post#47 » by TB » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:40 pm

Flash Falcon X wrote:I doubt Okongwu would go Top 5, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes a perennial All-Star.

He’s not tall and flashy so he’ll be overlooked, but there’s just something about his hustle and his touch. He reminds me of those guys in the gym who look like they’re garbage, but their conditioning and hustle is off the charts that they get buckets all game just from energy alone.

He drives aggressively in the paint, and once he gets there he makes his moves quick, and he’s so energetic that his use of little pump fakes and pauses gets his defenders jumping in the air. Super crafty, and he has intention with each move. Doesn’t look like he blindly attacks. He slashed inside, sees and reads his defender, and makes a simple but effective play.

He looks like he’d have potential to be like a prime David West or Paul Millsap, not in their games, but the fact that West and Millsap were two guys who weren’t flashy but became All-Stars because they could get buckets. Barely any highlight worthy plays and they didn’t look physically imposing, but they could consistently put the ball in the hoop.


West and Millsap were two of my favorite prospects, and Okongwu definitely falls into that same category of "there is just no way this guy doesnt help you win".

The only negative I have with Okongwu is the negative I always tell myself to focus less on... size. And his size isn't bad, he's just not quite as tall or wide as you'd want as a lead rim protector. I think his lack of size will just keep him from being a NBA blocks leader or rebound leader the way he was in college. But he's still going to be more than solid in those departments.

I could see Taj Gison defense mixed with some David West offense. Thats top 5 for me.

Now, i'll admit i'm becoming enamored and potentially tricked into leaning Wiseman's way because of his freakish size/potential. But I can't help but think my gut is saying to just go with Okongwu and call it a day.

It's also possible we have the same role on our team in Chriss... but i'd hate to not draft Okongwu on the hope that Chriss is the same type of player after half a season of solid play.
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Post#48 » by The Maestro » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:05 pm

Updated top 5 (in order)

1 Wiseman
2 Edwards
3 Vassell
4 Williams
5 Okongwu
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Post#49 » by B-King » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:10 pm

Wiseman could be Andre Drummond 2.0 and that is pretty pretty good.
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Post#50 » by ShayDee » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:40 pm

1 Edwards - Highest upside and trade value. FO HAVE to be patient with his development and give him minutes (at least 25)
2 Wiseman - I swear to God if he is available if Edwards is picked and they skip over him
3 Deni - If we want a back up PG he has the highest ceiling to cover that role although he is more of a SF/PF
4 Saddiq Bey - High floor, IQ, Length and shooting and some playmaking
5 Desmond Bane - Very high Floor, Fits right into our system, shows effort, playmaking, IQ and extreme hardworker. [Weaknesses: Quickness, average-above average athleticism, Age? (he just turned 22 June for a senior), length (he's 6'5 with 6'4 ws)]

Some players on the cusp I wouldn't mind but heavily prefer the ones above:
Devin Vassel - How much of his shot will translate? About mid floor but has decent ceiling. Would he have the patience and Work ethic to realize it? FO will have to be very patient with him and give him more time and minutes compared to our previous failed picks. more suited to guard 1-3s, 4s if he adds any strength.

Tyrese Haliburton - Idk about him. Analysts, gs writers and blog boys love him alot. If the FO think his shot will translate then fine. Just don't pick him top 5 (7-10 maybe)

Patrick Williams - Similar to Vassel's analysis (lower floor) but he is the youngest person out of every one I've mentioned and he will require the most amount of time. Would he have the patience and Work ethic to realize his potential? Funny enough they (him and Vassel) played on the same team. He is more suited to guard 2-4 with some small ball 5. Could guard 1s if he becomes quicker somehow.

Aaron Nesmith - Probably need to study a lot more film. But his ability to self create is zero-minimal. If he is in our system and we feed him the ball in open areas he will be a force to reckon wtih. If we give him time and teach him he might develop above average defense and maybe start later when our core ages.

There's some other few players like Precious, Okoro, Okongwu, Pokuševski, Jahmi'us Ramsey that I kind of like but they would be more of projects than anyone above I believe (apart from Okongwu) and If the FO don't give them minutes, how will it affect their confidence and development? Patrick Williams is obviously a project as well but I might be willing to live with him, not as confident with how our FO will manage him though compared to the top 5
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Post#51 » by a8bil » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:21 pm

How is Olongwu different from or adds anything more than Chriss already does?
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Post#52 » by gswhoops » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:50 pm

Top 5:

1. Wiseman
2. Edwards
3. Avdija
4. Okoro
5. Hayes

Trade down (late lotto):

1. Haliburton
2. Okongwu
3. Vassell
4. S. Bey
5. Nesmith

Trade down (mid-late first):

1. Theo Maledon
2. Josh Green
3. Jahmius Ramsey
4. Paul Reed
5. Leandro Bolmaro
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Post#53 » by Mylie10 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:50 pm

B-King wrote:I am worried about this draft. It reminds me of 2010 without a Walls or Cousins. If we draw in the top 4 we should be able to get someone that can help. At 5,we might be rolling the dice. We drafted Udoh at 6 cause he interviewed well and dressed nice. This isn't an office job. Get me some skills and JYD attitude all day.


I’m going to predict to you right now that Wiseman will be a wayyyy better player than Cousins.
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Post#54 » by Mylie10 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:53 pm

B-King wrote:Wiseman could be Andre Drummond 2.0 and that is pretty pretty good.


Lol, Andre Drummond? Wiseman is already a much better offensive player who projects to be a damn good scorer by year three. He’s already a better free throw shooter and has decent range.

I will give Drummond the rebounding, because he’s elite.
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Post#55 » by B-King » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:11 pm

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B-King wrote:Wiseman could be Andre Drummond 2.0 and that is pretty pretty good.


Lol, Andre Drummond? Wiseman is already a much better offensive player who projects to be a damn good scorer by year three. He’s already a better free throw shooter and has decent range.

I will give Drummond the rebounding, because he’s elite.

The risk with any young big is that they try to become a stretch 4 or 5, fall in love with the 3 and never become the inside force that they should have built as the foundation of their game. Watching Mo Bamba is classic example. He is gonna chuck his way out of the NBA from the 3 point line.
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Post#56 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:38 am

Mylie10 wrote:
B-King wrote:Wiseman could be Andre Drummond 2.0 and that is pretty pretty good.


Lol, Andre Drummond? Wiseman is already a much better offensive player who projects to be a damn good scorer by year three. He’s already a better free throw shooter and has decent range.

I will give Drummond the rebounding, because he’s elite.


My concerns with Wiseman are not at all with what his potential is, it's what his drive will be like and how willing he will be to be physical.

If they are happy with those answers for Wiseman he's clearly the best pick in the draft for the Warriors.

I have less concerns about those things for Okongwu, but he doesn't measure up to Wiseman in other ways.

This draft just doesn't have a clear blue chip no question player. I think there are 10-15 players who can help the Warriors for several years, But I don't see any of them as clearly worth a #1 pick.
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Post#57 » by Mylie10 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:20 am

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B-King wrote:Wiseman could be Andre Drummond 2.0 and that is pretty pretty good.


Lol, Andre Drummond? Wiseman is already a much better offensive player who projects to be a damn good scorer by year three. He’s already a better free throw shooter and has decent range.

I will give Drummond the rebounding, because he’s elite.


My concerns with Wiseman are not at all with what his potential is, it's what his drive will be like and how willing he will be to be physical.

If they are happy with those answers for Wiseman he's clearly the best pick in the draft for the Warriors.

I have less concerns about those things for Okongwu, but he doesn't measure up to Wiseman in other ways.

This draft just doesn't have a clear blue chip no question player. I think there are 10-15 players who can help the Warriors for several years, But I don't see any of them as clearly worth a #1 pick.


If we didn’t have a dirt cheap Chriss already, I might value Okungwu higher. I like him as a player, and watched a bunch of SC games. He’s being hyped up a bit to much right now. Part of that is the play of Adebayo. Okungwu is not Adebayo.

I’m not worried about Wiseman. He was the top rated player coming up throughout his junior senior year and the only game he struggled even a little bit was because of foul trouble against Oregon. He still put up really good numbers per minute and I’ve done enough of my own research to know that he’s going to be an All Star.

I don’t have the fears about him that others do.
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Post#58 » by wco81 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:30 am

If he wants to have the ball on the wing and look to put in on the deck, trying to cross over guys, he may not accept a reduced roll just rebounding and defending and looking for scraps after the Splash Brothers get theirs.

Who knows, he may never bulk up or get physical but want to be more like the Chris Bosh type of player rather than a strict rim runner, pick and roll guy diving to the hoop.

They might have to give him some ISOs around the elbow or post ups to keep him motivated.

If they're going to draft him, they may have to be prepared for that.
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Post#59 » by Mylie10 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:40 am

wco81 wrote:If he wants to have the ball on the wing and look to put in on the deck, trying to cross over guys, he may not accept a reduced roll just rebounding and defending and looking for scraps after the Splash Brothers get theirs.

Who knows, he may never bulk up or get physical but want to be more like the Chris Bosh type of player rather than a strict rim runner, pick and roll guy diving to the hoop.

They might have to give him some ISOs around the elbow or post ups to keep him motivated.

If they're going to draft him, they may have to be prepared for that.


He will love Steve Kerr and Kerr will love him. This ain’t some prima Donna coming into a Warrior situation and demanding shots. He’s going to fit in and gradually you will all see that he is much much more than just a runner and lane filler.
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Post#60 » by Onus » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:25 am

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wco81 wrote:If he wants to have the ball on the wing and look to put in on the deck, trying to cross over guys, he may not accept a reduced roll just rebounding and defending and looking for scraps after the Splash Brothers get theirs.

Who knows, he may never bulk up or get physical but want to be more like the Chris Bosh type of player rather than a strict rim runner, pick and roll guy diving to the hoop.

They might have to give him some ISOs around the elbow or post ups to keep him motivated.

If they're going to draft him, they may have to be prepared for that.


He will love Steve Kerr and Kerr will love him. This ain’t some prima Donna coming into a Warrior situation and demanding shots. He’s going to fit in and gradually you will all see that he is much much more than just a runner and lane filler.


For me it’s more of his defense. Can he stay on the floor when he gets isolated on a perimeter superstar or does he get played off the floor. I’ll take that chance and if we have to change our defense for him so be it.
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