Official Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[MikeMars]

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Could that be a result of more testing? Either way seems normal, once the virus takes hold it'll run its coarse, the good news is the mortality rate is going down, its actually less then the flu now i heard, but i know i know you want this to be the worst virus ever, go team doom and gloom!

There is no sugarcoationg the U.S. response to this SARS 2 virus. There are two nations south of the border. The New Confederacy of interference running yahoos and then states like Colorado that because of changing demographics more resemble Canada in how they govern themselves. So the virus is only as doom and gloom as a society's ability to fund and implement emergency response and pandemic spread prevention. Somebody termed the United States as a fractured nation with a broken sense of common purpose. This is as much the disease, a profound illness, as is Corona.

Ahh so a virus with a less than 1% mortality rate isnt giving you your doom and gloom fix anymore so you've projected it onto the USA as a whole, i think you've found something, go with it! Dorry worry basketball is starting soon, there will be lots of material for you there.

[anon2222]

This whole coronavirus pandemic is such a complex issue. Of course the best thing would be to have a vaccine, proven medical treatment with consistent high rates of curability etc. Unfortunately we have none of that now and we have idiots in high level positions around the world with vastly differing opinions that help this virus.

You have some stupid, idiotic conservatives in the US still debating and arguing about masks and lock downs because either they are so stupid or they think of their own political outcomes as priority.

If you enforce a full lock down on a region your people will suffer economically and the governments cannot keep up pumping emergency funds.What is one to do? This is the definition of a pandemic. It not only affects your health but pretty much everything else in the economy. Not easy to manage but definitely easier to put stricter measures to control the spread.

Can you imagine the potential spread/damage in the fall/winter with the flu combined? Scary thought. They said this virus spread will go down in the heat of the summer: imagine winter when we are mostly indoors. It's a pandemic for more than than health reasons. Its going to affect us more severely in such different ways. Maybe it's nature's way of cutting down our increasing population on this planet. Who knows.

[Kevin Willis]

Could that be a result of more testing? Either way seems normal, once the virus takes hold it'll run its coarse, the good news is the mortality rate is going down, its actually less then the flu now i heard, but i know i know you want this to be the worst virus ever, go team doom and gloom!

There is no sugarcoationg the U.S. response to this SARS 2 virus. There are two nations south of the border. The New Confederacy of interference running yahoos and then states like Colorado that because of changing demographics more resemble Canada in how they govern themselves. So the virus is only as doom and gloom as a society's ability to fund and implement emergency response and pandemic spread prevention. Somebody termed the United States as a fractured nation with a broken sense of common purpose. This is as much the disease, a profound illness, as is Corona.

Ahh so a virus with a less than 1% mortality rate isnt giving you your doom and gloom fix anymore so you've projected it onto the USA as a whole, i think you've found something, go with it! Dorry worry basketball is starting soon, there will be lots of material for you there.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

[MikeMars]

There is no sugarcoationg the U.S. response to this SARS 2 virus. There are two nations south of the border. The New Confederacy of interference running yahoos and then states like Colorado that because of changing demographics more resemble Canada in how they govern themselves. So the virus is only as doom and gloom as a society's ability to fund and implement emergency response and pandemic spread prevention. Somebody termed the United States as a fractured nation with a broken sense of common purpose. This is as much the disease, a profound illness, as is Corona.

Ahh so a virus with a less than 1% mortality rate isnt giving you your doom and gloom fix anymore so you've projected it onto the USA as a whole, i think you've found something, go with it! Dorry worry basketball is starting soon, there will be lots of material for you there.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

+1 team doom and gloom

I used CDC number for the month of june to get less than one percent, which illustrates the importance that mortality rate has gone down, probably was the same all along and the originals were fudged like i suspected, and with people comming out , doctors even in the USA were being told to put it was covid when it wasnt there was obviously an agenda to hype this thing up, and with doom and gloomers cheering them on , media happy to sensationalize its no wonder this is how we reacted to a relatlively harmless virus. Shouldnt say its harmless, my physics lab partner died from the flu, so it happens. But 327 deaths out of 1 million in the USA in June. Thats nothings to be worried about, you can go outside, have a life.

[beanbag]

Ahh so a virus with a less than 1% mortality rate isnt giving you your doom and gloom fix anymore so you've projected it onto the USA as a whole, i think you've found something, go with it! Dorry worry basketball is starting soon, there will be lots of material for you there.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

+1 team doom and gloom

I used CDC number for the month of june to get less than one percent, which illustrates the importance that mortality rate has gone down, probably was the same all along and the originals were fudged like i suspected, and with people comming out , doctors even in the USA were being told to put it was covid when it wasnt there was obviously an agenda to hype this thing up, and with doom and gloomers cheering them on , media happy to sensationalize its no wonder this is how we reacted to a relatlively harmless virus. Shouldnt say its harmless, my physics lab partner died from the flu, so it happens. But 327 deaths out of 1 million in the USA in June. Thats nothings to be worried about, you can go outside, have a life.

You would have done well to take one less physics class and one more grammar class. That's just me though.

[Johnny Bball]

Ahh so a virus with a less than 1% mortality rate isnt giving you your doom and gloom fix anymore so you've projected it onto the USA as a whole, i think you've found something, go with it! Dorry worry basketball is starting soon, there will be lots of material for you there.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

+1 team doom and gloom

I used CDC number for the month of june to get less than one percent, which illustrates the importance that mortality rate has gone down, probably was the same all along and the originals were fudged like i suspected, and with people comming out , doctors even in the USA were being told to put it was covid when it wasnt there was obviously an agenda to hype this thing up, and with doom and gloomers cheering them on , media happy to sensationalize its no wonder this is how we reacted to a relatlively harmless virus. Shouldnt say its harmless, my physics lab partner died from the flu, so it happens. But 327 deaths out of 1 million in the USA in June. Thats nothings to be worried about, you can go outside, have a life.

You really are having a tough time with your life being interrupted, and not being allowed to make everything all about you, aren't you.

[OAKLEY_2]

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

+1 team doom and gloom

I used CDC number for the month of june to get less than one percent, which illustrates the importance that mortality rate has gone down, probably was the same all along and the originals were fudged like i suspected, and with people comming out , doctors even in the USA were being told to put it was covid when it wasnt there was obviously an agenda to hype this thing up, and with doom and gloomers cheering them on , media happy to sensationalize its no wonder this is how we reacted to a relatlively harmless virus. Shouldnt say its harmless, my physics lab partner died from the flu, so it happens. But 327 deaths out of 1 million in the USA in June. Thats nothings to be worried about, you can go outside, have a life.

You would have done well to take one less physics class and one more grammar class. That's just me though.

FYI people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/27/health/coronavirus-antibodies-asymptomatic.html

But sure let's ignore. "The prevalence of infections is more than 10 times higher than the counted number of cases in six regions of the United States".

And this number: 140,000 dead. And what is to say about older or at risk people. People who are higher risk just because of the neighbourhoods they live in. So long suckers? People playing this down are playing with serious delusional fire. We should not have to moved to the latest level. Foolishness. Our politicians blinked.

[OAKLEY_2]

This whole coronavirus pandemic is such a complex issue. Of course the best thing would be to have a vaccine, proven medical treatment with consistent high rates of curability etc. Unfortunately we have none of that now and we have idiots in high level positions around the world with vastly differing opinions that help this virus.

You have some stupid, idiotic conservatives in the US still debating and arguing about masks and lock downs because either they are so stupid or they think of their own political outcomes as priority.

If you enforce a full lock down on a region your people will suffer economically and the governments cannot keep up pumping emergency funds.What is one to do? This is the definition of a pandemic. It not only affects your health but pretty much everything else in the economy. Not easy to manage but definitely easier to put stricter measures to control the spread.

Can you imagine the potential spread/damage in the fall/winter with the flu combined? Scary thought. They said this virus spread will go down in the heat of the summer: imagine winter when we are mostly indoors. It's a pandemic for more than than health reasons. Its going to affect us more severely in such different ways. Maybe it's nature's way of cutting down our increasing population on this planet. Who knows.

Your dead wrong about the funds. We have been in the virus for 4 months. From 1940-45 Canada was in a World War and amassed much greater debt. All the while they had a plan to finance a major war. This is a war as well, one we didn't match a response to what we knew would eventually happen. Bottom line is this whole episode can be financed in exactly the same way as World War II.

[lolwut]

+1 team doom and gloom

I used CDC number for the month of june to get less than one percent, which illustrates the importance that mortality rate has gone down, probably was the same all along and the originals were fudged like i suspected, and with people comming out , doctors even in the USA were being told to put it was covid when it wasnt there was obviously an agenda to hype this thing up, and with doom and gloomers cheering them on , media happy to sensationalize its no wonder this is how we reacted to a relatlively harmless virus. Shouldnt say its harmless, my physics lab partner died from the flu, so it happens. But 327 deaths out of 1 million in the USA in June. Thats nothings to be worried about, you can go outside, have a life.

You would have done well to take one less physics class and one more grammar class. That's just me though.

FYI people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/27/health/coronavirus-antibodies-asymptomatic.html

But sure let's ignore. "The prevalence of infections is more than 10 times higher than the counted number of cases in six regions of the United States".

And this number: 140,000 dead. And what is to say about older or at risk people. People who are higher risk just because of the neighbourhoods they live in. So long suckers? People playing this down are playing with serious delusional fire. We should not have to moved to the latest level. Foolishness. Our politicians blinked.

Over 140000 people dead and counting, but to MikeMars, that works out to be a low mortality rate so this thing is relatively harmless. We should just ignore it and let it run its course instead of actually preventing more people from catching it and dying.

What's the matter with some people?

Let's say I catch the virus but it's asymptomatic on me, so I don't even know I have it. I go visit my grandma for her birthday. A month later, she's six feet under. But who cares... low mortality rate for the overall population. Harmless.

[Coach Smiley]

140,000+ dead in a pandemic = no big deal don't impede my freedoms big bad government!

3,000 dead in a terrorist attack = spend trillions on a pointless war and take all the freedoms you need!

[Pointgod]

It’s insane just to think that 3 months ago the US and Italy were in the same position. Now Italy has flattened the curve and the US is a raging dumpster fire. One day last week Florida had slightly more cases as all of the EU. EU is roughly 10 times the side of Florida population wise.

This just goes to show you how much leadership at the top matters. I mean you even have a bunch of Republican Governors fallowing Trump’s lead and making insanely stupid decisions.

You might want to pay less attention to sensationalized media headlines and actually look at data once in a while. Your assertions here are grossly out of touch with reality.

Italy has a death rate of 580 per million people from COVID, vs 434 in the USA. Meaning Italy has fared about 33% worse than the US has - and this is not a small difference. Yes the US has more people dying from COVID than Italy does at the moment, but the number of deaths in the US will likely continue to trend downward and this gap will not come even close to closing.

When all is said and done, vastly more people per capita have died from COVID in Italy than in the US.

So tell me why we should be looking at the mortality rates only and not the rates in positivity, hospitalization and trend lines over the past few months? Also why are you using a point in time mortality rate and not going by the trend in mortality rate? Tell me what you think the data is trying to say.

[JustWin]

I just wanna go on vacation

[OAKLEY_2]

I just wanna go on vacation

It's so sad Black Friday and clubbing are under a microscope. How will we cope?

[MikeMars]

140,000+ dead in a pandemic = no big deal don't impede my freedoms big bad government!

3,000 dead in a terrorist attack = spend trillions on a pointless war and take all the freedoms you need!

150 000 people die every day. 57 million a year. Life is still more dangerous than Covid.

[nikster]

140,000+ dead in a pandemic = no big deal don't impede my freedoms big bad government!

3,000 dead in a terrorist attack = spend trillions on a pointless war and take all the freedoms you need!

150 000 people die every day. 57 million a year. Life is still more dangerous than Covid.

Thank you. Its like ive been saying forever, Why waste all this money on policing and prisons? only 15, 000 americans are murdered every year. Life is still more dangerous than murderers.

[MikeMars]

140,000+ dead in a pandemic = no big deal don't impede my freedoms big bad government!

3,000 dead in a terrorist attack = spend trillions on a pointless war and take all the freedoms you need!

150 000 people die every day. 57 million a year. Life is still more dangerous than Covid.

Thank you. Its like ive been saying forever, Why waste all this money on policing and prisons? only 15, 000 americans are murdered every year. Life is still more dangerous than murderers.

I know right, and they only show up after the murder is commited... pffft. Well maybe we should be thankful for that, preventative measures would be like a brain chip that reads your mind and calls the police when you're thinking criminal thoughts. But going to jail is actually a good deterant, ive heard some people say they'd kill someone but dont want to goto jail...

[nikster]

150 000 people die every day. 57 million a year. Life is still more dangerous than Covid.

Thank you. Its like ive been saying forever, Why waste all this money on policing and prisons? only 15, 000 americans are murdered every year. Life is still more dangerous than murderers.

I know right, and they only show up after the murder is commited... pffft. Well maybe we should be thankful for that, preventative measures would be like a brain chip that reads your mind and calls the police when you're thinking criminal thoughts. But going to jail is actually a good deterant, ive heard some people say they'd kill someone but dont want to goto jail...

if only there were preventative measures and deterrents for COVID

[Kevin Willis]

140,000+ dead in a pandemic = no big deal don't impede my freedoms big bad government!

3,000 dead in a terrorist attack = spend trillions on a pointless war and take all the freedoms you need!

150 000 people die every day. 57 million a year. Life is still more dangerous than Covid.

Why are you trolling? What's the value in keeping up this schtick? Amusement - that's slightly demented you know.

[beanbag]

150 000 people die every day. 57 million a year. Life is still more dangerous than Covid.

Thank you. Its like ive been saying forever, Why waste all this money on policing and prisons? only 15, 000 americans are murdered every year. Life is still more dangerous than murderers.

I know right, and they only show up after the murder is commited... pffft. Well maybe we should be thankful for that, preventative measures would be like a brain chip that reads your mind and calls the police when you're thinking criminal thoughts. But going to jail is actually a good deterant, ive heard some people say they'd kill someone but dont want to goto jail...

Too bad there isn't a brain chip allowing you to write coherently.

[gei]

It’s insane just to think that 3 months ago the US and Italy were in the same position. Now Italy has flattened the curve and the US is a raging dumpster fire. One day last week Florida had slightly more cases as all of the EU. EU is roughly 10 times the side of Florida population wise.

This just goes to show you how much leadership at the top matters. I mean you even have a bunch of Republican Governors fallowing Trump’s lead and making insanely stupid decisions.

You might want to pay less attention to sensationalized media headlines and actually look at data once in a while. Your assertions here are grossly out of touch with reality.

Italy has a death rate of 580 per million people from COVID, vs 434 in the USA. Meaning Italy has fared about 33% worse than the US has - and this is not a small difference. Yes the US has more people dying from COVID than Italy does at the moment, but the number of deaths in the US will likely continue to trend downward and this gap will not come even close to closing.

When all is said and done, vastly more people per capita have died from COVID in Italy than in the US.

So tell me why we should be looking at the mortality rates only and not the rates in positivity, hospitalization and trend lines over the past few months? Also why are you using a point in time mortality rate and not going by the trend in mortality rate? Tell me what you think the data is trying to say.

The data is clearly saying that the virus has hit places like Italy far worse than the US. Again, 33% harder. If you aren't able to interpret such simple data you may want to steer clear of making opinions like this.