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Post#461 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:54 pm

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Post#462 » by Smash3 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:01 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
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mpharris36 wrote: Unless BOS desperetly needed the roster space.


All I ask as compensation for the deal I just saved you a ton of money on is that you vote!



mpharris36 wrote: Speaking of Washington, Boston might have single handily saved that franchise :lol:


I do think the HOU/BOS waiver claim trade makes sense for both. Gets HOU off 150+ of contracts that wont even be in his rotation. And then used the reaming to bring in draymond who still can contribute.
- mentioning this deal for the third time, like he can't think for himself

But to have 2 years on your books dead seems a bit premature unless he was asked to waive him and given that trade which still seems like light value

a very very late first round pick to eat $880 is a pricey cost


I mean would deeez trading Giannis for Draymond be subjectively bad or objectively bad?
- comparing it to a deal like this...


I mean all these posts IMO were petty and disrespectful towards Wackbone.


To respond to each point:

Wack has been upfront he plans on being horrible for 2 years and wanted to collect assests. I was making a joke that Washington didn't have to do anything this offseason and ended up getting one of the best trade assets in the league by him owning the Celtics 2021 1st round pick. Wack has mentioned a few times now he doesn't plan to be good so how am I disrespecting him when he said he doesn't plan on being good? And if anything I commended him on the direction he is now going on.

If I really wanted HOU to do the deal why wouldn't I have quoted him or even PM'd him. Im making conversation and I wasn't even talking to Phish. He is a grown up he can make his own decisions.

As far as me asking them to vote, I mean come on I proposed a rule that I think would better the league I just made a joke about how the compensation I want is for them to vote. And BOS ended up voting against my rule so in theory that backfired and I didn't trash him for it...because I just wanted him to vote I didn't want him to just to vote for me I wanted him to make his own decision.

You are taking the Giannis for Draymond completely out of "context". That was only directed to context and we fight about how GM's can make a bad deal all the time :lol: (if I had a dollar everytime we battle over that topic :lol: ). I only used Dryamond and Giannis because those two names were at the top of my head and had similar contracts in banter with context. So no I wasn't being direspectful to wack at all. I mentioned Tatum for Frank too being a horrible trade for Melo that was also not directed at anyone.

And you seem to be getting upset for Wack for some reason. We have made a few trades in the past and I have always have had a good relationship with him...so it seems you are imparting your feelings onto Wack when he never said I was being disrespectful to him. Because I wasn't.

If anyone can claim that I have been disrespectful towards is Washingtons GM (and I will own up to that and I apologize). Part of that is due I didn't agree with bringing in a poster that doesn't have a history of being active (that was my ultimate issue). He makes a couple deals then he has been AFK for months upon months.

I give every GM the benefit of the doubt especially our long standing GM's. I might be a little critical of newer GM's that make questionable moves because I don't want a team to be ruined so that if that GM potentially leaves we can fill that team. I do believe in the leagues prosperity from that perspective. And if that is overstepping then I do apologize but almost every single vet GM I have no issues with any of there moves. I might comment on them but I don't trash them.

But ultimately only 3 of your quotes were directed at the Draymond waiver specifically. And neither was disrespectful at all. 3 pots is not a "million"


At the end of the day words can be misconstrued.. You've explained there was no disrespect intended towards Wackbone, you weren't aware of our deal, and you weren't just looking out for yourself when you proposed the BOS-HOU trade. With that being the case, my bad, it was never personal just firing back as i interpreted it.
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Post#463 » by Smash3 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:05 pm

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Where we go from Achilles with our previous team, we go to Pinky and Brain with this team. If I asked you to close your eyes and imagined the NBA definition of a treadmill, wouldn't Kevin Love and DeMar DeRozan immediately come to mind? Truly in the worst position of any team in this division, years behind the tanking wars, years behind the good teams. We've finally found Purgatory in the NBA, it resides in Milwaukee.


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Post#464 » by King of Canada » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:10 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Image

Central Division

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I used to respect the Bulls quite a lot, but once you see a man plead out No Mas No Mas after taking a whipping, it's just never the same again. The alimony payments Chicago will be making to Brooklyn is going to be painful to watch.

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My heart almost goes out to the Cavs, imagine saving all your life for a fancy car and going to the gas station and putting in the wrong gas? Brick Jr actually getting playing time on this team will ultimately result in a fatal crash because the car stalls.

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It's truly a bold strategy, I mean truly. Lets take a page out of the Pacers and Cavs playbook, but instead of good players lets do it with even worse players. Bish will actually be put his kids through college with the money before this team becomes relevant.

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Listen up kids, it's story time. There was once this man named Achilles, he was practically invincible, his mother made him that way by dipping his body in the River Styx. The Pacers were gifted Luka Doncic, the road was paved to gold, until he took an arrow to the Achilles tendon because he never learned what an actual point guard was.

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Post#465 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:15 pm

Smash3 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Spoiler:
Smash3 wrote:





- mentioning this deal for the third time, like he can't think for himself



- comparing it to a deal like this...


I mean all these posts IMO were petty and disrespectful towards Wackbone.


To respond to each point:

Wack has been upfront he plans on being horrible for 2 years and wanted to collect assests. I was making a joke that Washington didn't have to do anything this offseason and ended up getting one of the best trade assets in the league by him owning the Celtics 2021 1st round pick. Wack has mentioned a few times now he doesn't plan to be good so how am I disrespecting him when he said he doesn't plan on being good? And if anything I commended him on the direction he is now going on.

If I really wanted HOU to do the deal why wouldn't I have quoted him or even PM'd him. Im making conversation and I wasn't even talking to Phish. He is a grown up he can make his own decisions.

As far as me asking them to vote, I mean come on I proposed a rule that I think would better the league I just made a joke about how the compensation I want is for them to vote. And BOS ended up voting against my rule so in theory that backfired and I didn't trash him for it...because I just wanted him to vote I didn't want him to just to vote for me I wanted him to make his own decision.

You are taking the Giannis for Draymond completely out of "context". That was only directed to context and we fight about how GM's can make a bad deal all the time :lol: (if I had a dollar everytime we battle over that topic :lol: ). I only used Dryamond and Giannis because those two names were at the top of my head and had similar contracts in banter with context. So no I wasn't being direspectful to wack at all. I mentioned Tatum for Frank too being a horrible trade for Melo that was also not directed at anyone.

And you seem to be getting upset for Wack for some reason. We have made a few trades in the past and I have always have had a good relationship with him...so it seems you are imparting your feelings onto Wack when he never said I was being disrespectful to him. Because I wasn't.

If anyone can claim that I have been disrespectful towards is Washingtons GM (and I will own up to that and I apologize). Part of that is due I didn't agree with bringing in a poster that doesn't have a history of being active (that was my ultimate issue). He makes a couple deals then he has been AFK for months upon months.

I give every GM the benefit of the doubt especially our long standing GM's. I might be a little critical of newer GM's that make questionable moves because I don't want a team to be ruined so that if that GM potentially leaves we can fill that team. I do believe in the leagues prosperity from that perspective. And if that is overstepping then I do apologize but almost every single vet GM I have no issues with any of there moves. I might comment on them but I don't trash them.

But ultimately only 3 of your quotes were directed at the Draymond waiver specifically. And neither was disrespectful at all. 3 pots is not a "million"


At the end of the day words can be misconstrued.. You've explained there was no disrespect intended towards Wackbone, you weren't aware of our deal, and you weren't just looking out for yourself when you proposed the BOS-HOU trade. With that being the case, my bad, it was never personal just firing back as i interpreted it.


I appreciate you understanding my points. If anything as 2010 perfectly said this was a move never done before in BAF. From that perspective its a pretty trend setting move in terms of using an asset to add more supply into the FA pool, creating less demand that either you get him or you don't you should benefit either way.

Looking back I also think its interesting you wouldn't have been supportive of HOU making the push. He would have been left with very little room. Currently he has about $300+ of cap space to spend on FA. He has a bad FA rating but he still will be able to spend in FA. Unless you are under the impression he doesn't plan on using his money to go after FA which I don't know if thats the case or not.

I think HOU making that sign and claim deal would have still accomplished what you are looking for by taking $300 plus $$$ out of the FA pool.
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Post#466 » by NewEra » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:16 pm

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Post#467 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:19 pm

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Post#468 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:30 pm

NewEra wrote:Manhattan Project, you are one sick man! :lol: :lol: :lol: These roasts are golden! Just don’t do the West cause we’re all a brotherhood :wink:


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Post#469 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:32 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:
NewEra wrote:Manhattan Project, you are one sick man! :lol: :lol: :lol: These roasts are golden! Just don’t do the West cause we’re all a brotherhood :wink:


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Post#470 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:40 pm

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Post#471 » by HEZI » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:41 pm

Irl Denver Nuggets are running my 5 man big lineup

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Post#472 » by Smash3 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:42 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Smash3 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Spoiler:
To respond to each point:

Wack has been upfront he plans on being horrible for 2 years and wanted to collect assests. I was making a joke that Washington didn't have to do anything this offseason and ended up getting one of the best trade assets in the league by him owning the Celtics 2021 1st round pick. Wack has mentioned a few times now he doesn't plan to be good so how am I disrespecting him when he said he doesn't plan on being good? And if anything I commended him on the direction he is now going on.

If I really wanted HOU to do the deal why wouldn't I have quoted him or even PM'd him. Im making conversation and I wasn't even talking to Phish. He is a grown up he can make his own decisions.

As far as me asking them to vote, I mean come on I proposed a rule that I think would better the league I just made a joke about how the compensation I want is for them to vote. And BOS ended up voting against my rule so in theory that backfired and I didn't trash him for it...because I just wanted him to vote I didn't want him to just to vote for me I wanted him to make his own decision.

You are taking the Giannis for Draymond completely out of "context". That was only directed to context and we fight about how GM's can make a bad deal all the time :lol: (if I had a dollar everytime we battle over that topic :lol: ). I only used Dryamond and Giannis because those two names were at the top of my head and had similar contracts in banter with context. So no I wasn't being direspectful to wack at all. I mentioned Tatum for Frank too being a horrible trade for Melo that was also not directed at anyone.

And you seem to be getting upset for Wack for some reason. We have made a few trades in the past and I have always have had a good relationship with him...so it seems you are imparting your feelings onto Wack when he never said I was being disrespectful to him. Because I wasn't.

If anyone can claim that I have been disrespectful towards is Washingtons GM (and I will own up to that and I apologize). Part of that is due I didn't agree with bringing in a poster that doesn't have a history of being active (that was my ultimate issue). He makes a couple deals then he has been AFK for months upon months.

I give every GM the benefit of the doubt especially our long standing GM's. I might be a little critical of newer GM's that make questionable moves because I don't want a team to be ruined so that if that GM potentially leaves we can fill that team. I do believe in the leagues prosperity from that perspective. And if that is overstepping then I do apologize but almost every single vet GM I have no issues with any of there moves. I might comment on them but I don't trash them.

But ultimately only 3 of your quotes were directed at the Draymond waiver specifically. And neither was disrespectful at all. 3 pots is not a "million"


At the end of the day words can be misconstrued.. You've explained there was no disrespect intended towards Wackbone, you weren't aware of our deal, and you weren't just looking out for yourself when you proposed the BOS-HOU trade. With that being the case, my bad, it was never personal just firing back as i interpreted it.


I appreciate you understanding my points. If anything as 2010 perfectly said this was a move never done before in BAF. From that perspective its a pretty trend setting move in terms of using an asset to add more supply into the FA pool, creating less demand that either you get him or you don't you should benefit either way.

Looking back I also think its interesting you wouldn't have been supportive of HOU making the push. He would have been left with very little room. Currently he has about $300+ of cap space to spend on FA. He has a bad FA rating but he still will be able to spend in FA. Unless you are under the impression he doesn't plan on using his money to go after FA which I don't know if thats the case or not.

I think HOU making that sign and claim deal would have still accomplished what you are looking for by taking $300 plus $$$ out of the FA pool.


True, I was thinking the same thing. I think Rockets are going to tank another year for the upcoming talented draft, and save their money for next year’s FA crop where there’s little competition. They don’t have the money for a Sabonis or Booker, they already have a PG for the future so I don’t see the point of signing vets that will help them win meaningless games the upcoming season.

If Rockets draft well this draft, get another top 10 pick next year, grab a impact FA a year or two from now they’ll be up there with the best teams in the game no doubt. However if they go all in this FA, their ceiling will be a lot lower IMO. So I haven’t considered them as competition even though they do have a lot of cap space. I could be wrong though :lol:
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Post#474 » by HEZI » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:44 pm

Bol Bol out here hitting fastbreak pull up 3s

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HEZI wrote:Bol Bol out here hitting fastbreak pull up 3s

Lol

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Post#476 » by HEZI » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:49 pm

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HEZI wrote:Bol Bol out here hitting fastbreak pull up 3s

Lol

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Post#477 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:50 pm

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This is why I'm not a fan of forcing teams to use a certain lineup. If teams want to experiment with any lineup they want, they should have that right, no matter what you think the purpose behind it is, tanking or winning or whatever, teams should have the freedom to do this.


thats fair. And it wasn't to discriminate against teams trying things to win. I think we have limitations in the SIM where we can't react in real time like a real coach can which I do think could be damaging to the league. Bish just doesn't have the man power to help us manage the ability to account for this all the time.

ultimately the league will decide but it was never an intention to limit teams trying to better there team. And the lineup the nuggets would do would be allowed under the rule change also.

Jokic could be made as a case to play PG. Then grant could play the 2 and then the other centers could play 5-4-3
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Post#478 » by King of Canada » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:50 pm

K-DOT wrote:
HEZI wrote:Bol Bol out here hitting fastbreak pull up 3s

Lol

Block into a fastbreak pull-up 3

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Post#479 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:50 pm

K-DOT wrote:
HEZI wrote:Bol Bol out here hitting fastbreak pull up 3s

Lol

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He was calling off Jokic, like i got this...i can play point too :lol:

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Post#480 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:52 pm

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This is why I'm not a fan of forcing teams to use a certain lineup. If teams want to experiment with any lineup they want, they should have that right, no matter what you think the purpose behind it is, tanking or winning or whatever, teams should have the freedom to do this.


Yea, I was still undecided. I like keeping lineups open to experiment too...letting teams do what they want which is the beauty of baf (as someone mentioned). Who knows? Big lineups could make a comeback and the sim does love size. If teams want to tank, I think they will tank either way.
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SG: Vassell | Trent | Livingston
PG: Spida | Mann | Deuce

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