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And now apparently the talks with Thibs have stalled and they are going for Kidd...

The stalled talks/Kidd discussion was from yesterday, wasn't it? Or did it happen again today? I think this is an update that Thibs is actually the guy and they worked through their talks.

Either way, lol.

I think it's the latest news.Either way i feel sorry for Knicks fans.

[Chuck Diesel]

Thibs has made so much frickin money in his career and he’s a wifeless, childless bachelor. Wonder what the hell he spends it on. Hope he’s poppin off.

[trwi7]

Thibs has made so much frickin money in his career and he’s a wifeless, childless bachelor. Wonder what the hell he spends it on. Hope he’s poppin off.

Hookers and blow.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The bubble got me thinking about how the NBA could adjust schedule to do away with conference inequality and make more fun games throughout the season. This idea would also cut 6 games off the 82 game regular season which is about all the owners would ever allow.

So heres my half baked idea:

No conferences and 16 teams still make the playoffs.

You start the season in Phase 1 where you play home and away against the 29 other teams. That's 58 games totally balanced schedule for everyone. At that point you take a week off for the All Star game and give time to reformulate the schedule for Phase 2.

Phase 2 - the top 10 teams from Phase 1 have clinched the 1-10 spots in the playoffs and they now play each other home and away (18 games total) for seeding of the 1-10. You'd have a ton of good team vs good team games to close the season and teams would have to keep trying to win for seeding purposes.

The 11-20 teams play each home and away (18 games) for the final 6 playoff spots. Lots of competitive games with evenly matched teams.

21-30 teams are eliminated from the playoffs and also play the 18 games against each other. You either make these games meaningless towards lotto seeding so teams have no incentive to lose or maybe give some lotto ball bonuses for wins I'm open to either. These would obviously be the worst games of this idea but this way these teams aren't actually playing against other teams with playoffs on the line and they can go young and plan for next season.

Thoughts?

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[Bucksfan28]

The bubble got me thinking about how the NBA could adjust schedule to do away with conference inequality and make more fun games throughout the season. This idea would also cut 6 games off the 82 game regular season which is about all the owners would ever allow.

So heres my half baked idea:

No conferences and 16 teams still make the playoffs.

You start the season in Phase 1 where you play home and away against the 29 other teams. That's 58 games totally balanced schedule for everyone. At that point you take a week off for the All Star game and give time to reformulate the schedule for Phase 2.

Phase 2 - the top 10 teams from Phase 1 have clinched the 1-10 spots in the playoffs and they now play each other home and away (18 games total) for seeding of the 1-10. You'd have a ton of good team vs good team games to close the season and teams would have to keep trying to win for seeding purposes.

The 11-20 teams play each home and away (18 games) for the final 6 playoff spots. Lots of competitive games with evenly matched teams.

21-30 teams are eliminated from the playoffs and also play the 18 games against each other. You either make these games meaningless towards lotto seeding so teams have no incentive to lose or maybe give some lotto ball bonuses for wins I'm open to either. These would obviously be the worst games of this idea but this way these teams aren't actually playing against other teams with playoffs on the line and they can go young and plan for next season.

Thoughts?

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I like the foundation of this outside-the-box idea. I worry about the last grouping.

Maybe incentivize winning a little more by having teams 21 and 22 play a wild card game, and the winner of that gets to play team #16 for their playoff spot? That also provides an avenue for a good team that may have been hurt by injury early on.

[Chuck Diesel]

Thibs has made so much frickin money in his career and he’s a wifeless, childless bachelor. Wonder what the hell he spends it on. Hope he’s poppin off.

Hookers and blow.

Thibs rolls down the window for his crystal meth dealer. “Ice!”

[ReasonablySober]

Thibs has made so much frickin money in his career and he’s a wifeless, childless bachelor. Wonder what the hell he spends it on. Hope he’s poppin off.

Hookers and blow.

Nah, I'm not rich and even I can fit hookers and blow into my monthly budget.

[trwi7]

Thibs has made so much frickin money in his career and he’s a wifeless, childless bachelor. Wonder what the hell he spends it on. Hope he’s poppin off.

Hookers and blow.

Nah, I'm not rich and even I can fit hookers and blow into my monthly budget.

That's because you're sexy af. Thibs doesn't have that luxury.

[FlagsFlyForever]

The bubble got me thinking about how the NBA could adjust schedule to do away with conference inequality and make more fun games throughout the season. This idea would also cut 6 games off the 82 game regular season which is about all the owners would ever allow.

So heres my half baked idea:

No conferences and 16 teams still make the playoffs.

You start the season in Phase 1 where you play home and away against the 29 other teams. That's 58 games totally balanced schedule for everyone. At that point you take a week off for the All Star game and give time to reformulate the schedule for Phase 2.

Phase 2 - the top 10 teams from Phase 1 have clinched the 1-10 spots in the playoffs and they now play each other home and away (18 games total) for seeding of the 1-10. You'd have a ton of good team vs good team games to close the season and teams would have to keep trying to win for seeding purposes.

The 11-20 teams play each home and away (18 games) for the final 6 playoff spots. Lots of competitive games with evenly matched teams.

21-30 teams are eliminated from the playoffs and also play the 18 games against each other. You either make these games meaningless towards lotto seeding so teams have no incentive to lose or maybe give some lotto ball bonuses for wins I'm open to either. These would obviously be the worst games of this idea but this way these teams aren't actually playing against other teams with playoffs on the line and they can go young and plan for next season.

Thoughts?

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I like the outside the box thinking. The playoffs would benefit from eliminating conferences and ensuring the strongest teams always get in. I also like giving the bottom teams motivation to win at the end of the season.

My criticisms of your idea are that your scenario doesn't reward a team for a great regular season. The Bucks could blow everybody out and run away with first place through 58 games and then during the first postseason phase they would be right back even with every other team. At that point, the games don't really matter early in the season because it doesn't matter if you finish 1st or 10th. So why wouldn't the Bucks just rest Giannis 3 out of every 4 games knowing they'll still be a top ten team? I think it's important that every regular season game is as important as possible starting from Game 1.

I also don't like the arbitrary cut off of ten teams. Teams 10 and 11 could be tied and the difference determined by a tiebreaker so I don't think their rewards should be so drastically different.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The bubble got me thinking about how the NBA could adjust schedule to do away with conference inequality and make more fun games throughout the season. This idea would also cut 6 games off the 82 game regular season which is about all the owners would ever allow.

So heres my half baked idea:

No conferences and 16 teams still make the playoffs.

You start the season in Phase 1 where you play home and away against the 29 other teams. That's 58 games totally balanced schedule for everyone. At that point you take a week off for the All Star game and give time to reformulate the schedule for Phase 2.

Phase 2 - the top 10 teams from Phase 1 have clinched the 1-10 spots in the playoffs and they now play each other home and away (18 games total) for seeding of the 1-10. You'd have a ton of good team vs good team games to close the season and teams would have to keep trying to win for seeding purposes.

The 11-20 teams play each home and away (18 games) for the final 6 playoff spots. Lots of competitive games with evenly matched teams.

21-30 teams are eliminated from the playoffs and also play the 18 games against each other. You either make these games meaningless towards lotto seeding so teams have no incentive to lose or maybe give some lotto ball bonuses for wins I'm open to either. These would obviously be the worst games of this idea but this way these teams aren't actually playing against other teams with playoffs on the line and they can go young and plan for next season.

Thoughts?

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I like the outside the box thinking. The playoffs would benefit from eliminating conferences and ensuring the strongest teams always get in. I also like giving the bottom teams motivation to win at the end of the season.

My criticisms of your idea are that your scenario doesn't reward a team for a great regular season. The Bucks could blow everybody out and run away with first place through 58 games and then during the first postseason phase they would be right back even with every other team. At that point, the games don't really matter early in the season because it doesn't matter if you finish 1st or 10th. So why wouldn't the Bucks just rest Giannis 3 out of every 4 games knowing they'll still be a top ten team? I think it's important that every regular season game is as important as possible starting from Game 1.

I also don't like the arbitrary cut off of ten teams. Teams 10 and 11 could be tied and the difference determined by a tiebreaker so I don't think their rewards should be so drastically different.

Thanks. You nailed one of the potential flaws where a team won't have much motivation once the clinch top 10. You could have that record carry over to Phase 2 (like they are doing with this 8 game season in Orlando) but then you run into teams clinching early in Phase 2 and I'd want those games to be competitive. Maybe the reward for clinching top 10 is you simply can get the opportunity to rest some guys mid season. Maybe there's a solution in between someone smarter than me can figure out.

I get what you're saying on ties but I think you need the arbitrary 10 cut off to keep schedules balanced. Typically there aren't 10 actual contenders so if team 11 feels screwed over I'm not too concerned and they should be the best team in that middle group and make the playoffs anyway. I have 0 issue with team 21 feeling screwed because that's not a good team anyway.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

The bubble got me thinking about how the NBA could adjust schedule to do away with conference inequality and make more fun games throughout the season. This idea would also cut 6 games off the 82 game regular season which is about all the owners would ever allow.

So heres my half baked idea:

No conferences and 16 teams still make the playoffs.

You start the season in Phase 1 where you play home and away against the 29 other teams. That's 58 games totally balanced schedule for everyone. At that point you take a week off for the All Star game and give time to reformulate the schedule for Phase 2.

Phase 2 - the top 10 teams from Phase 1 have clinched the 1-10 spots in the playoffs and they now play each other home and away (18 games total) for seeding of the 1-10. You'd have a ton of good team vs good team games to close the season and teams would have to keep trying to win for seeding purposes.

The 11-20 teams play each home and away (18 games) for the final 6 playoff spots. Lots of competitive games with evenly matched teams.

21-30 teams are eliminated from the playoffs and also play the 18 games against each other. You either make these games meaningless towards lotto seeding so teams have no incentive to lose or maybe give some lotto ball bonuses for wins I'm open to either. These would obviously be the worst games of this idea but this way these teams aren't actually playing against other teams with playoffs on the line and they can go young and plan for next season.

Thoughts?

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I like the foundation of this outside-the-box idea. I worry about the last grouping.

Maybe incentivize winning a little more by having teams 21 and 22 play a wild card game, and the winner of that gets to play team #16 for their playoff spot? That also provides an avenue for a good team that may have been hurt by injury early on.

Thanks man. I don't like giving a bottom 10 team a playoff shot but I do think you could build some type of incentive like cash or extra lottery chances or something.

Bad teams end up playing a ton of meaningless games now so at least with this format they just play each other and not impact playoff races like they do now. I do think you have to remove the incentive to lose for the bottom 10 those last 18 games and if you do you might get some fun games with young guys showing out.

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[humanrefutation]

Lou Williams being dishonest about his strip club visit is exactly the kind of **** that will ruin the bubble.

[0BobLobLaw0]

The bubble got me thinking about how the NBA could adjust schedule to do away with conference inequality and make more fun games throughout the season. This idea would also cut 6 games off the 82 game regular season which is about all the owners would ever allow.

So heres my half baked idea:

No conferences and 16 teams still make the playoffs.

You start the season in Phase 1 where you play home and away against the 29 other teams. That's 58 games totally balanced schedule for everyone. At that point you take a week off for the All Star game and give time to reformulate the schedule for Phase 2.

Phase 2 - the top 10 teams from Phase 1 have clinched the 1-10 spots in the playoffs and they now play each other home and away (18 games total) for seeding of the 1-10. You'd have a ton of good team vs good team games to close the season and teams would have to keep trying to win for seeding purposes.

The 11-20 teams play each home and away (18 games) for the final 6 playoff spots. Lots of competitive games with evenly matched teams.

21-30 teams are eliminated from the playoffs and also play the 18 games against each other. You either make these games meaningless towards lotto seeding so teams have no incentive to lose or maybe give some lotto ball bonuses for wins I'm open to either. These would obviously be the worst games of this idea but this way these teams aren't actually playing against other teams with playoffs on the line and they can go young and plan for next season.

Thoughts?

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Love the idea, but it does need work. Travel alone would be insane.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Lou Williams being dishonest about his strip club visit is exactly the kind of **** that will ruin the bubble.

Lou deserves the heat he's going to take and he should have to quarantine for 10 days minimum. But I think this also illustrates why the league was foolish to have separate rules for re-entry depending on what you were doing when you left. Don't put everyone in jeopardy on the honor system.

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[MVP2110]

The bubble got me thinking about how the NBA could adjust schedule to do away with conference inequality and make more fun games throughout the season. This idea would also cut 6 games off the 82 game regular season which is about all the owners would ever allow.

So heres my half baked idea:

No conferences and 16 teams still make the playoffs.

You start the season in Phase 1 where you play home and away against the 29 other teams. That's 58 games totally balanced schedule for everyone. At that point you take a week off for the All Star game and give time to reformulate the schedule for Phase 2.

Phase 2 - the top 10 teams from Phase 1 have clinched the 1-10 spots in the playoffs and they now play each other home and away (18 games total) for seeding of the 1-10. You'd have a ton of good team vs good team games to close the season and teams would have to keep trying to win for seeding purposes.

The 11-20 teams play each home and away (18 games) for the final 6 playoff spots. Lots of competitive games with evenly matched teams.

21-30 teams are eliminated from the playoffs and also play the 18 games against each other. You either make these games meaningless towards lotto seeding so teams have no incentive to lose or maybe give some lotto ball bonuses for wins I'm open to either. These would obviously be the worst games of this idea but this way these teams aren't actually playing against other teams with playoffs on the line and they can go young and plan for next season.

Thoughts?

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I like the outside the box thinking. The playoffs would benefit from eliminating conferences and ensuring the strongest teams always get in. I also like giving the bottom teams motivation to win at the end of the season.

My criticisms of your idea are that your scenario doesn't reward a team for a great regular season. The Bucks could blow everybody out and run away with first place through 58 games and then during the first postseason phase they would be right back even with every other team. At that point, the games don't really matter early in the season because it doesn't matter if you finish 1st or 10th. So why wouldn't the Bucks just rest Giannis 3 out of every 4 games knowing they'll still be a top ten team? I think it's important that every regular season game is as important as possible starting from Game 1.

I also don't like the arbitrary cut off of ten teams. Teams 10 and 11 could be tied and the difference determined by a tiebreaker so I don't think their rewards should be so drastically different.

I'm fine with the arbitrary cutoff, we have one now with 8 in each conference. I do agree with rolling over the records from phase 1 to phase 2 though.

[FlagsFlyForever]

The bubble got me thinking about how the NBA could adjust schedule to do away with conference inequality and make more fun games throughout the season. This idea would also cut 6 games off the 82 game regular season which is about all the owners would ever allow.

So heres my half baked idea:

No conferences and 16 teams still make the playoffs.

You start the season in Phase 1 where you play home and away against the 29 other teams. That's 58 games totally balanced schedule for everyone. At that point you take a week off for the All Star game and give time to reformulate the schedule for Phase 2.

Phase 2 - the top 10 teams from Phase 1 have clinched the 1-10 spots in the playoffs and they now play each other home and away (18 games total) for seeding of the 1-10. You'd have a ton of good team vs good team games to close the season and teams would have to keep trying to win for seeding purposes.

The 11-20 teams play each home and away (18 games) for the final 6 playoff spots. Lots of competitive games with evenly matched teams.

21-30 teams are eliminated from the playoffs and also play the 18 games against each other. You either make these games meaningless towards lotto seeding so teams have no incentive to lose or maybe give some lotto ball bonuses for wins I'm open to either. These would obviously be the worst games of this idea but this way these teams aren't actually playing against other teams with playoffs on the line and they can go young and plan for next season.

Thoughts?

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I like the outside the box thinking. The playoffs would benefit from eliminating conferences and ensuring the strongest teams always get in. I also like giving the bottom teams motivation to win at the end of the season.

My criticisms of your idea are that your scenario doesn't reward a team for a great regular season. The Bucks could blow everybody out and run away with first place through 58 games and then during the first postseason phase they would be right back even with every other team. At that point, the games don't really matter early in the season because it doesn't matter if you finish 1st or 10th. So why wouldn't the Bucks just rest Giannis 3 out of every 4 games knowing they'll still be a top ten team? I think it's important that every regular season game is as important as possible starting from Game 1.

I also don't like the arbitrary cut off of ten teams. Teams 10 and 11 could be tied and the difference determined by a tiebreaker so I don't think their rewards should be so drastically different.

I'm fine with the arbitrary cutoff, we have one now with 8 in each conference. I do agree with rolling over the records from phase 1 to phase 2 though.

That's for the playoffs so I don't have a problem with it. I really like the NBA's best-of-two play-in idea they're using this year which gives the 9 seed a chance if they're within 4 games of the 8 seed. I would love to see that continue on into future seasons.

I think an 18 game second season is too short to make so much more important than the 58 game season. Anything can happen over 18 games if a team gets hot or a player gets injured. The results are less likely to be indicative of who the best teams are compared to a 58 game season. That's why I don't think it's fair to give the 10 seed automatic entry into the playoffs and a chance at home court throughout. Meanwhile, an equal team is virtually guaranteed to play every series on the road even if they go 18-0. And if they go 9-9 or 8-10 they might not make the playoffs altogether even if they have a better overall record than several playoff teams.

I also believe teams tend to hide things against teams they expect to play in the playoffs. So while it sounds great to see so many high profile matchups, I don't think they'd be played with the intense playoff atmosphere we're envisioning.

Since we're throwing out outside of the box ideas, here's an idea that wouldn't take anything away from the regular season but would add importance to many games. Instead of issuing a hard cut off at a particular point in the season, have several elimination points throughout the season. The 82 game regular season will play out as regularly scheduled but teams have to remain above a certain threshold to have a chance for home court. For example, on Dec. 1, the bottom four teams in the standings are eliminated from home court contention. On Dec 15, the bottom four of the remaining 26 teams are eliminated. Four more teams are eliminated on Jan 1, Jan 15, and Feb 1. During the ASB, three teams are eliminated and on Mar 1, Mar 15, and Apr 1 one team is eliminated leaving four teams remaining to play out the rest of the season for home court advantage.

After each round of cuts, teams would get bunched up. For example, after each cut, the 1st place team starts the next phase with a 0.5 game lead over 2nd who has a 0.5 game lead over 3rd, etc. Every team plays the same number of games (7 or 8) during each period between cuts. It still rewards teams for excelling throughout the season by giving them advantageous position, but makes the games more competitive because no team can run away with home court and rest everybody at the end of the season. This would only be for home court. The teams that make the playoffs would still be the 16 teams with the best overall W-L records throughout the entire 82 game season.

[DrWood]

Lou Williams being dishonest about his strip club visit is exactly the kind of **** that will ruin the bubble.

The NBA has about 450 players who are tall enough, rich enough, and young enough to get a piece of ass any night they want, without paying for it. I don't know how many of them take advantage of that opportunity, but some must. I wonder how motivated they are to break out of the bubble.

[AussieBuck]

On the one hand, players need to be professional, there's a lot at stake. On the other hand, I know I'd be breaking curfew after 2 weeks without some action.

[Chuck Diesel]

I get take out wings from the massage parlor all the time. Don’t see what the big deal is.

[Chuck Diesel]

All the current Euro chatter points to Campazzo making the leap this fall. Would energize fans, coaches and teammates. Giannis especially would appreciate his competitive wiring and insane passing talent. Might be more opportunity for playing time in Mil than meets the eye, with blowouts and versatile lineups. He seems like the type to value organization and title pursuits, but the buyout is big.