Around the NBA 2019-20

[King4Day]

To spice up the all star game, I wouldn't mind seeing games like this that include current NBA stars playing with celebrities.
Or maybe some players who didn't make the team, they can do this as the 'celebrity game'. Could be fun seeing legit NBA'er making non athletes look good.

https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2020/03/23/kenny-rogers-pump-fakes-michael-jordan-drains-jumper-in-88-pickup-game/?fbclid=IwAR36OQvnXqT2RembdsGMMcCCwTn_n3uW8Ws-YRBa6NuX6EZQQT9bbpN92bI

[bwgood77]

Man, Melo with 2 quick 3s in the final minute to put Portland ahead twice.

[suns12345]

Waiting for the TJ Warren trade mistake posts after his game today...

[darealjuice]

Lol damn TJ hates the Sixers

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Thought this was funny. But yea jeez, if you’re a Suns fan today is the day to lay off all social media and enjoy your Saturday night doing just about anything else. Otherwise it won’t be fun, we’re getting destroyed everywhere for the trade. (Even tho ppl don’t realize we needed to trade him to get cap space for Rubio because of the awful Tyler Johnson for Ryan Anderson trade James Jones did a year before).

[nevetsov]

Yeah, those SF minutes we are now giving to Bridges haven't worked out for us at all.

[ATTL]

General board didnt give a **** about TJ until he was off the suns.
Trade board offers for him were terrible.

[bwgood77]

General board didnt give a **** about TJ until he was off the suns.
Trade board offers for him were terrible.

Yeah, I argued a little on the trade board, but his low value on the trade board of course ended up being proved correct to say the least. A lot of Suns fans didn't like TJ either...wanting Jackson to play over him..then Oubre.

[Damkac]

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Thought this was funny. But yea jeez, if you’re a Suns fan today is the day to lay off all social media and enjoy your Saturday night doing just about anything else. Otherwise it won’t be fun, we’re getting destroyed everywhere for the trade. (Even tho ppl don’t realize we needed to trade him to get cap space for Rubio because of the awful Tyler Johnson for Ryan Anderson trade James Jones did a year before).

So JJ needed to make dumb move because he made dumb move before. That's a bad excuse.

[Bogyo]

Yeah, those SF minutes we are now giving to Bridges haven't worked out for us at all.

Not a question of that. I think we all like Bridges here, better than Warren. He is as better fit for sure.
We just hate the trade for cash, and I (for one) simply DO NOT believe that there wasn't anyhing better out there, if we were truly trying. Basically Jones just took the first offer, and didn't even pick up the goddamn phone to try do do better.

[nevetsov]

Yeah, those SF minutes we are now giving to Bridges haven't worked out for us at all.

Not a question of that. I think we all like Bridges here, better than Warren. He is as better fit for sure.
We just hate the trade for cash, and I (for one) simply DO NOT believe that there wasn't anyhing better out there, if we were truly trying. Basically Jones just took the first offer, and didn't even pick up the goddamn phone to try do do better.

I'm quite sure it was more about creating the cap space to sign Rubio.

If you want to think that we didn't take the best offer available, then I don't know what to tell you.

[Saberestar]

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[Bogyo]

Yeah, those SF minutes we are now giving to Bridges haven't worked out for us at all.

Not a question of that. I think we all like Bridges here, better than Warren. He is as better fit for sure.
We just hate the trade for cash, and I (for one) simply DO NOT believe that there wasn't anyhing better out there, if we were truly trying. Basically Jones just took the first offer, and didn't even pick up the goddamn phone to try do do better.

I'm quite sure it was more about creating the cap space to sign Rubio.

If you want to think that we didn't take the best offer available, then I don't know what to tell you.

I believe we took the first offer, and didn't even check for anything else, becouse it did fit our plans to sign Rubio.

[Saberestar]

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Thought this was funny. But yea jeez, if you’re a Suns fan today is the day to lay off all social media and enjoy your Saturday night doing just about anything else. Otherwise it won’t be fun, we’re getting destroyed everywhere for the trade. (Even tho ppl don’t realize we needed to trade him to get cap space for Rubio because of the awful Tyler Johnson for Ryan Anderson trade James Jones did a year before).

I have seen this idea a few times and it's wrong. "WE NEEDED"?? No way it was "needed". There were like 50 different options to have the cap space to sign Rubio as a FA and James Jones selected this one.

You don't trade for free a young efficient wing under a friendly long-term contract. A guy who breathes basketball.
Good teams don't make that decisions, they find the way to stay away of those terrible mistakes.

[Scoot McGroot]

Not a question of that. I think we all like Bridges here, better than Warren. He is as better fit for sure.
We just hate the trade for cash, and I (for one) simply DO NOT believe that there wasn't anyhing better out there, if we were truly trying. Basically Jones just took the first offer, and didn't even pick up the goddamn phone to try do do better.

I'm quite sure it was more about creating the cap space to sign Rubio.

If you want to think that we didn't take the best offer available, then I don't know what to tell you.

I believe we took the first offer, and didn't even check for anything else, becouse it did fit our plans to sign Rubio.

The reports out of Indy (from an itinerant kind of journalist who's not really tied originally to Indy, but salt ready) were that Phoenix HAD called around to multiple teams and offered Warren for free a bit before the draft, and no one was biting. Some didn't see him as a fit, and some just didn't want to commit their cap space/TPE early before seeing what free agency might offer them. By the time James was calling Indy on draft day, they had basically said they need to get it done, and decided to include the 2nd. Pritchard, knowing that Indy wasn't naturally a target in free agency jumped on it immediately. I think IF Phoenix was willing to wait until after the draft, and into free agency, they likely would have been able to move TJ for no cost, if not maybe getting a future 2nd or two in return. But, timing affects value a ton, too.

As for Rubio, we apparently had a deal ready for him in Indy, until we found out that Brogdon was gettable, and Simon (Pacers owner) called Milwaukee ownership personally to make a simple trade to get the deal done. We backed away from Rubio, and then he swung immediately to Phoenix.

[bwgood77]

Yeah, those SF minutes we are now giving to Bridges haven't worked out for us at all.

Not a question of that. I think we all like Bridges here, better than Warren. He is as better fit for sure.
We just hate the trade for cash, and I (for one) simply DO NOT believe that there wasn't anyhing better out there, if we were truly trying. Basically Jones just took the first offer, and didn't even pick up the goddamn phone to try do do better.

There may not have been anything better out there, simply because teams were preserving cap space for FA, and didn't want to take on money before the draft. Once FA started to play out, and teams struck out, he would have had a nice market, pretty certainly. They just jumped the gun and panicked and felt they needed to trade him by draft night for whatever reason. The Pacers were obviously shocked..

“What I heard was when Indiana got the call, ‘Hey we’ll give you T.J. and the 32nd pick,’ the Pacers thought it was a joke, they didn’t think this was a serious offer,” Elhassan said on The Burns & Gambo Show. “And when they realized it was, (Indiana said) ‘OK it has to get done now, because we’re not going to wait for you to figure out the mistake that you’re making here.’”

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2019/7/3/20681223/indiana-pacers-phoenix-suns-offer-tj-warren-joke

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Thought this was funny. But yea jeez, if you’re a Suns fan today is the day to lay off all social media and enjoy your Saturday night doing just about anything else. Otherwise it won’t be fun, we’re getting destroyed everywhere for the trade. (Even tho ppl don’t realize we needed to trade him to get cap space for Rubio because of the awful Tyler Johnson for Ryan Anderson trade James Jones did a year before).

I have seen this idea a few times and it's wrong. "WE NEEDED"?? No way it was "needed". There were like 50 different options to have the cap space to sign Rubio as a FA and James Jones selected this one.

You don't trade for free a young efficient wing under a friendly long-term contract. A guy who breathes basketball.
Good teams don't make that decisions, they find the way to stay away of those terrible mistakes.

Yeah I was trying to make it sound better than it is lol. Regardless of Jones idiocy of trading for Tyler Johnson that put us in that situation in the first place.

[SunsLyf3]

I'm quite sure it was more about creating the cap space to sign Rubio.

If you want to think that we didn't take the best offer available, then I don't know what to tell you.

I believe we took the first offer, and didn't even check for anything else, becouse it did fit our plans to sign Rubio.

The reports out of Indy (from an itinerant kind of journalist who's not really tied originally to Indy, but salt ready) were that Phoenix HAD called around to multiple teams and offered Warren for free a bit before the draft, and no one was biting. Some didn't see him as a fit, and some just didn't want to commit their cap space/TPE early before seeing what free agency might offer them. By the time James was calling Indy on draft day, they had basically said they need to get it done, and decided to include the 2nd. Pritchard, knowing that Indy wasn't naturally a target in free agency jumped on it immediately. I think IF Phoenix was willing to wait until after the draft, and into free agency, they likely would have been able to move TJ for no cost, if not maybe getting a future 2nd or two in return. But, timing affects value a ton, too.

As for Rubio, we apparently had a deal ready for him in Indy, until we found out that Brogdon was gettable, and Simon (Pacers owner) called Milwaukee ownership personally to make a simple trade to get the deal done. We backed away from Rubio, and then he swung immediately to Phoenix.

The details matter. We should have at least asked for a late 1st with protections but details matter. They won't talk about that on TV though.

[bwgood77]

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Thought this was funny. But yea jeez, if you’re a Suns fan today is the day to lay off all social media and enjoy your Saturday night doing just about anything else. Otherwise it won’t be fun, we’re getting destroyed everywhere for the trade. (Even tho ppl don’t realize we needed to trade him to get cap space for Rubio because of the awful Tyler Johnson for Ryan Anderson trade James Jones did a year before).

I have seen this idea a few times and it's wrong. "WE NEEDED"?? No way it was "needed". There were like 50 different options to have the cap space to sign Rubio as a FA and James Jones selected this one.

You don't trade for free a young efficient wing under a friendly long-term contract. A guy who breathes basketball.
Good teams don't make that decisions, they find the way to stay away of those terrible mistakes.

Yeah I was trying to make it sound better than it is lol. Regardless of Jones idiocy of trading for Tyler Johnson that put us in that situation in the first place.

Still could have stretched Tyler Johnson...that saves the money right there. Of course we thought he might be pretty good...bad thought.

[Scoot McGroot]

I believe we took the first offer, and didn't even check for anything else, becouse it did fit our plans to sign Rubio.

The reports out of Indy (from an itinerant kind of journalist who's not really tied originally to Indy, but salt ready) were that Phoenix HAD called around to multiple teams and offered Warren for free a bit before the draft, and no one was biting. Some didn't see him as a fit, and some just didn't want to commit their cap space/TPE early before seeing what free agency might offer them. By the time James was calling Indy on draft day, they had basically said they need to get it done, and decided to include the 2nd. Pritchard, knowing that Indy wasn't naturally a target in free agency jumped on it immediately. I think IF Phoenix was willing to wait until after the draft, and into free agency, they likely would have been able to move TJ for no cost, if not maybe getting a future 2nd or two in return. But, timing affects value a ton, too.

As for Rubio, we apparently had a deal ready for him in Indy, until we found out that Brogdon was gettable, and Simon (Pacers owner) called Milwaukee ownership personally to make a simple trade to get the deal done. We backed away from Rubio, and then he swung immediately to Phoenix.

The details matter. We should have at least asked for a late 1st with protections but details matter. They won't talk about that on TV though.

I’m not sure what you mean.

But, at the time he was dealt, Warren did not have the value to return cap space and a 1st. If you were willing to take back bad salary, you definitely could’ve, but that would’ve negated the whole reason to trade Warren.

Now, after he’s had essentially a healthy year, and played good defense, and proven that the improvements he was showing in his long range shooting are more real than just a hot hand, he definitely has more value than he did last year in trade.