Scoot McGroot wrote:SunsLyf3 wrote:Scoot McGroot wrote:
The reports out of Indy (from an itinerant kind of journalist who's not really tied originally to Indy, but salt ready) were that Phoenix HAD called around to multiple teams and offered Warren for free a bit before the draft, and no one was biting. Some didn't see him as a fit, and some just didn't want to commit their cap space/TPE early before seeing what free agency might offer them. By the time James was calling Indy on draft day, they had basically said they need to get it done, and decided to include the 2nd. Pritchard, knowing that Indy wasn't naturally a target in free agency jumped on it immediately. I think IF Phoenix was willing to wait until after the draft, and into free agency, they likely would have been able to move TJ for no cost, if not maybe getting a future 2nd or two in return. But, timing affects value a ton, too.
As for Rubio, we apparently had a deal ready for him in Indy, until we found out that Brogdon was gettable, and Simon (Pacers owner) called Milwaukee ownership personally to make a simple trade to get the deal done. We backed away from Rubio, and then he swung immediately to Phoenix.
The details matter. We should have at least asked for a late 1st with protections but details matter. They won't talk about that on TV though.
I’m not sure what you mean.
But, at the time he was dealt, Warren did not have the value to return cap space and a 1st. If you were willing to take back bad salary, you definitely could’ve, but that would’ve negated the whole reason to trade Warren.
Now, after he’s had essentially a healthy year, and played good defense, and proven that the improvements he was showing in his long range shooting are more real than just a hot hand, he definitely has more value than he did last year in trade.
That people will look at the deal and just say it was a bad deal and they could have gotten more. You just explained why they didn't/couldn't which won't be talked about by media. Maybe if they had tried a bit later but they needed to clear space to address the PG position.