Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Commish Update pg. 93

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I honestly don't see it needed to be carefully judged when we have rules and a process that keep "context" out of it.

bro please man - you know we even had a whats the over /under on how many trades and when bish only posted 4 we were disappointed because we love to see trade after trade like its nba tv we complete trades on top of trades...this is not cool...

again none of this is relevant.

mph, im done bro...no more energy

[3toheadmelo]

If it was a situation where he backed out....I’d more respect him coming on here and saying “I changed my mind” as opposed to just bailing on BAF. That’s disrespectful not just to me, but to all of us participating in this game.

the dude blocked you and koc- it was him- I know it was...

i just think we are dealing with a grey area because of our culture on how we confirm trades- especially preseason...

If it was really him then it’s a no brainer that he doesn’t care about BAF and cared so little that he didn’t even bother to send the trade to BAF.

[Context]

If it was a situation where he backed out....I’d more respect him coming on here and saying “I changed my mind” as opposed to just bailing on BAF. That’s disrespectful not just to me, but to all of us participating in this game.

the dude blocked you and koc- it was him- I know it was...

i just think we are dealing with a grey area because of our culture on how we confirm trades- especially preseason...

If it was really him then it’s a no brainer that he doesn’t care about BAF and cared so little that he didn’t even bother to send the trade to BAF.

Mel my brother...im good...i voted -you voted -we'll see what the others think...

[mpharris36]

bro please man - you know we even had a whats the over /under on how many trades and when bish only posted 4 we were disappointed because we love to see trade after trade like its nba tv we complete trades on top of trades...this is not cool...

again none of this is relevant.

mph, im done bro...no more energy

thats fine but I think you did acknowledge that you thought a trade was official when both GM's agreed with each other. All I'm saying that isn't up for debate the process is it isn't official till its been sent to and approved by the commish. Outside of that I don't know if there is any room for debate.

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[NewEra]

If it was a situation where he backed out....I’d more respect him coming on here and saying “I changed my mind” as opposed to just bailing on BAF. That’s disrespectful not just to me, but to all of us participating in this game.

the dude blocked you and koc- it was him- I know it was...

i just think we are dealing with a grey area because of our culture on how we confirm trades- especially preseason...

Call me naive in this situation, but I did not see this coming from BK. I’m kinda hoping he just pops up and proves us all wrong, but it doesn’t look good.

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again none of this is relevant.

mph, im done bro...no more energy

thats fine but I think you did acknowledge that you thought a trade was official when both GM's agreed with each other. All I'm saying that isn't up for debate the process is it isn't official till its been sent to and approved by the commish. Outside of that I don't know if there is any room for debate.

i saw bish's post...i got it and im good I stalk you guys anyway until you send the confirmation and check that its in the outbox If you thought I was being dramatic or pushy now you know why...

[Context]

If it was a situation where he backed out....I’d more respect him coming on here and saying “I changed my mind” as opposed to just bailing on BAF. That’s disrespectful not just to me, but to all of us participating in this game.

the dude blocked you and koc- it was him- I know it was...

i just think we are dealing with a grey area because of our culture on how we confirm trades- especially preseason...

Call me naive in this situation, but I did not see this coming from BK. I’m kinda hoping he just pops up and proves us all wrong, but it doesn’t look good.

you went with the culture bro- dude was very active...GM's ask me to get players all the time- you went and did that for an active vet in bk and so far you may get screwed for it...its terrible...

[mpharris36]

mph, im done bro...no more energy

thats fine but I think you did acknowledge that you thought a trade was official when both GM's agreed with each other. All I'm saying that isn't up for debate the process is it isn't official till its been sent to and approved by the commish. Outside of that I don't know if there is any room for debate.

i saw bish's post...i got it and im good I stalk you guys anyway until you send the confirmation and check that its in the outbox If you thought I was being dramatic or pushy now you know why...

as you should. If you have a deal pending and someone hasn't sent approval into Bish I'm all for you bugging someone until they send that in. You have every right to do so.

That is usually why I send a confirmation back to GM I am trading with saying that I sent approval to bish so they know my part is done.

[Context]

thats fine but I think you did acknowledge that you thought a trade was official when both GM's agreed with each other. All I'm saying that isn't up for debate the process is it isn't official till its been sent to and approved by the commish. Outside of that I don't know if there is any room for debate.

i saw bish's post...i got it and im good I stalk you guys anyway until you send the confirmation and check that its in the outbox If you thought I was being dramatic or pushy now you know why...

as you should. If you have a deal pending and someone hasn't sent approval into Bish I'm all for you bugging someone until they send that in. You have every right to do so.

That is usually why I send a confirmation back to GM I am trading with saying that I sent approval to bish so they know my part is done.

mph, i have a line "please confirm that your pm to bish is in the outbox"

[BowlRips]

How’d my name come up in this?
I never begrudgingly traded anyone away.
I was gonna quit because el pooch was being a d*ck and I wasn’t able to give proper attention to it

Anyways - IMO, unless the trades are lopsided, irrational and appear to be some type of self sabotage, then the trades should go through. At the end of the day, this is a game. If GMs put that amount of work into completing these deals they shouldn’t be penalized. Need to recognize the time and dedication put into this.
But the commish needs to really scrutinize the deals and ensure there was no foul play

[3toheadmelo]

the dude blocked you and koc- it was him- I know it was...

i just think we are dealing with a grey area because of our culture on how we confirm trades- especially preseason...

If it was really him then it’s a no brainer that he doesn’t care about BAF and cared so little that he didn’t even bother to send the trade to BAF.

Mel my brother...im good...i voted -you voted -we'll see what the others think...

Meant to say he didn’t send the trade to bish. But my point stands.

But whatever bish wants to do..I won’t dispute it.

[Context]

How’d my name come up in this?
I never begrudgingly traded anyone away.
I was gonna quit because el pooch was being a d*ck and I wasn’t able to give proper attention to it

Anyways - IMO, unless the trades are lopsided, irrational and appear to be some type of self sabotage, then the trades should go through. At the end of the day, this is a game. If GMs put that amount of work into completing these deals they shouldn’t be penalized. Need to recognize the time and dedication put into this.
But the commish needs to really scrutinize the deals and ensure there was no foul play

excellent point...its bad enough all three gms missed out on opportunity because of how terribly Bk handled this- but
3 gms spent a ton of time putting this together- getting players for bk...I'm glad someone else sees this...I would be pissed
if this happened to me because i know how much time a gm has to put in to get these complicated trades done...and
i personally rely on the honor code- i couldnt get as many trades done without it...

[3toheadmelo]

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yeah i saw that

[3toheadmelo]

My guy Troy Brown hooping rn

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yeah i saw that

People sleeping on him bro

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My guy Troy Brown hooping rn

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yeah i saw that

People sleeping on him bro

I always wondered what else would i have had to add in that milton deal to get Troy instead

[3toheadmelo]

yeah i saw that

People sleeping on him bro

I always wondered what else would i have had to add in that milton deal to get Troy instead

Probably Rui

[2010]

I've been tied up but can finally speak my piece on this situation.

BK has always been solid with me. We've done big trades in the past like the KAT blockbuster. As such we communicated frequently via PM up until right before his disappearance, and even on WhatsApp many times previously.

We discussed deals all the time. I know first hand that he agreed to deal Capela to ribs. How so? Because I was initially targeting Capela, and BK respectfully let me know he had a better deal, and that Capela was Atlanta bound. He would always get back to me, and never left me in limbo regardless of whether or not a trade could be consummated.

I'm also solid in communications with NewEra. So I know for a fact that BK agreed to a major deal with him, as well. I won't speak on the moving parts in this one, out of respect for the confidentiality element between NewEra and I. But the deal was there and in place, to the point it altered my perspective and my planning for this offseason.

Smash3 and I, are also good money. As you all know, we completed a Bagley/Nunn deal at the turn of the new league season. As such, since I was in communication with him, and with BK, in independent negotiations, I know for a fact Tobias Harris was due to be heading Portland's way.

I say all that to say this. I'd like to think I’m good with the vast majority of GMs here. I firmly believe in honoring ones word when a deal is agreed to in principle. Handshake deals should be honored by GMs for credibility purposes alone.

At the same time, I do not view this situation as a flaw in our trade protocols, at all. The system we have in place works like a well-oiled machine. Bish has come to the rescue countless times on deals that were agreed upon, but could not be processed, for a myriad of reasons. Issues such as cap implications, pick discrepancies, roster spots, Exempt List player issues, etc.

Therefore, it would simply be inefficient to consider agreements between GMs "official." Quite frankly, a deal is not official until it has been agreed to by all parties, sent in by all parties to bish via PM, and subsequently announced in the discussion thread. Anything outside of that is unofficial and premature, rendering it incapable of being considered an official trade transaction.

I have a lot of respect for all parties involved. So I'm torn because, while I know these discussions took place and were even agreed upon, these trades were not sent in to Bish, and they weren't announced, due to BK's disappearance. However, what I won't do, is speculate on why BK is no longer active here.

As for me, I always do my best to ensure I follow through with my word on any deal I wholeheartedly agree to. Please believe I will follow through, once I give my trade agreement to another GM in PM. I would never disappear on this competition or this group. Some say it's just a game to pass the time and enjoy the sport we all love. But to me it's bigger than that. It's a brother/sisterhood (wdup Greenie). We laugh, talk wild to eachother, fall out, and come back together good money, as if nothing ever happened.

If I ever disappear weeks/months with no word, best believe I‘m either dead, gravely ill, or incarcerated.

Lastly, I gave my word to NewEra I would not allow my prior knowledge of the moving parts involved with his trade to influence my vote. I have no idea why BK never sent in his confirmation(s) to Bish. But before I send in my vote, I do need clarification on one crucial development.

NewEra worked on that huge trade where each piece was dependent on the next so I do feel that his offseason was effected more than usual. However, I also let him know that BK had not approved the trade before I posted all of his other trades. Seeing that there was no reason to question BK at the time he wanted to go through with the other parts of his deals.

I’d like clarification on the timeline of the enlarged. I understand BK disappeared by the time of the official turn of the new league year on July 11th. But my question to Bish is, many of us (myself included) attempted to send agreed deals in even earlier, on or closer to July 1st. Yet we were ultimately told, any official deals have to be resubmitted to the commissioner on July 11th. With that said, did BK ever make any prior attempts to send any of these aforementioned 3 deals to you? Was he ever told they'd have to be resubmitted at the official turnover of the new league season?

[2010]

Jonathan Isaac won't kneel for BLM, but will for ACL.

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