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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#401 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:44 pm

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GS Warriors 1 wrote:49ers reworked Raheem Mostert's deal. Base salary of $2.575M with a $300,000 bonus. He can earn an additional $2.75M in bonuses and incentives. Per Adam Schefter.


Sounds like exactly what was expected. A deal his agent can sell as a raise but with favorable terms for the 49ers.

Yup. I think this was the right move for the organization. Mostert can indeed make Coleman-like money, which was his goal, but he has to produce in order to achieve that. Wish more contracts were based on a pay-for-performance basis. And it is not an extension as no years were added; he is still signed through 2021. But under the circumstances, this seems like a win-win for Mostert and the team.


Totally off topic, but I saw Elon Musk is getting a BIG payday for performance. Supposedly the deal he signed 5 years ago for Tesla started paying off based on his performance and he's getting something like $2.5B in options this year. Not too shabby.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#402 » by Samurai » Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:21 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:Chris Finke waived ... that didn't take long.

Shouldn't take too long. Finke was placed on the waived/non-football injury list due to an off season injury. The hope is that he can rejoin the team in about a month.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#403 » by Samurai » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:13 pm

John Lynch received a 5-year extension, so at least that's one less thing to worry about.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#404 » by Dodub » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:47 pm

If Jordan Reed stays healthy, teams are in deeep trouble.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#405 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Aug 3, 2020 7:06 pm

Dodub wrote:If Jordan Reed stays healthy, teams are in deeep trouble.


Hadn't seen the news. Interested to see what the contract looks like, but probably not too bad. As said, if he can stay healthy (a huge if at this point), this offense could be incredibly nasty. Good news is that we wouldn't need him to be in anything close to a full-time role.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#406 » by wco81 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 7:15 pm

Hope he has something left but I don't have high expectations unless Kyle wants to open up the offense and throw seam passes all the time like the Pats did when they had Gonzalez and Gronk.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#407 » by Bald Bull » Mon Aug 3, 2020 7:42 pm

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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#408 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Mon Aug 3, 2020 7:53 pm

Dodub wrote:If Jordan Reed stays healthy, teams are in deeep trouble.


Deep is an understatement!

All we need from him is 6 snaps per game. 2 targets.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#409 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Mon Aug 3, 2020 7:54 pm

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JORDAN REED
TE, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS


49ers signed TE Jordan Reed, formerly of the Washington Football Team, to a one-year contract.

Reed will reunite with 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan, who, along with his father Mike, initially drafted the 30-year-old with the No. 85 overall pick in 2013. Reed hasn't played a regular season snap since 2018, appearing in just 65-of-112 possible career games with seven documented concussions, but offers explosiveness in sprints ahead of Ross Dwelley and sixth-round rookie Charlie Woerner. George Kittle remains a second-round cornerstone even if Reed is available in the season opener.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#410 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 8:19 pm

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Dodub wrote:If Jordan Reed stays healthy, teams are in deeep trouble.


Hadn't seen the news. Interested to see what the contract looks like, but probably not too bad. As said, if he can stay healthy (a huge if at this point), this offense could be incredibly nasty. Good news is that we wouldn't need him to be in anything close to a full-time role.


Supposedly it is an incentive laden contract
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#411 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Aug 4, 2020 5:09 pm

Rumblings about us being interested in Ziggy Ansah. Better be for a pretty good price. Dude has always been overrated as a pass rusher, and he's super injury prone. He made a little over $8 million with the Hawks last year. I wouldn't pay half that.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#412 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Aug 4, 2020 5:52 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Rumblings about us being interested in Ziggy Ansah. Better be for a pretty good price. Dude has always been overrated as a pass rusher, and he's super injury prone. He made a little over $8 million with the Hawks last year. I wouldn't pay half that.

Ziggy is done. The guy provided zero rush last season. He's washed. Too many injuries.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#413 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Aug 4, 2020 5:53 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Rumblings about us being interested in Ziggy Ansah. Better be for a pretty good price. Dude has always been overrated as a pass rusher, and he's super injury prone. He made a little over $8 million with the Hawks last year. I wouldn't pay half that.


I'd guess well under that with incentives. He and Ford can help each other stay healthy. My concern is who it might cost the 49ers on the roster. I love the depth everywhere on the line other than pure edge rushers so it makes some sense.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#414 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Aug 4, 2020 5:59 pm

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Rumblings about us being interested in Ziggy Ansah. Better be for a pretty good price. Dude has always been overrated as a pass rusher, and he's super injury prone. He made a little over $8 million with the Hawks last year. I wouldn't pay half that.


I'd guess well under that with incentives. He and Ford can help each other stay healthy. My concern is who it might cost the 49ers on the roster. I love the depth everywhere on the line other than pure edge rushers so it makes some sense.

Good luck. :wink:

Honestly, the guy needs to hang em up. You'd be better off with an open roster spot.
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Post#415 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Aug 4, 2020 6:06 pm

Yeah, I'd be pretty opposed to that one.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#416 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Aug 4, 2020 6:08 pm

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Rumblings about us being interested in Ziggy Ansah. Better be for a pretty good price. Dude has always been overrated as a pass rusher, and he's super injury prone. He made a little over $8 million with the Hawks last year. I wouldn't pay half that.


I'd guess well under that with incentives. He and Ford can help each other stay healthy. My concern is who it might cost the 49ers on the roster. I love the depth everywhere on the line other than pure edge rushers so it makes some sense.

Good luck. :wink:

Honestly, the guy needs to hang em up. You'd be better off with an open roster spot.


That's always the issue. Trent Williams hasn't been able to stay on the field, but the team is betting big on him ... Jerrick McKinnon, Trent Taylor, Dee Ford, Jalen Hurd, Kwon Alexander, Jason Verrett, Jimmy Ward, now Jordan Reed, etc ... the 49ers are betting pretty big on a bunch of players with bad injury histories.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#417 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Aug 4, 2020 6:11 pm

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I'd guess well under that with incentives. He and Ford can help each other stay healthy. My concern is who it might cost the 49ers on the roster. I love the depth everywhere on the line other than pure edge rushers so it makes some sense.

Good luck. :wink:

Honestly, the guy needs to hang em up. You'd be better off with an open roster spot.


That's always the issue. Trent Williams hasn't been able to stay on the field, but the team is betting big on him ... Jerrick McKinnon, Trent Taylor, Dee Ford, Jalen Hurd, Kwon Alexander, Jason Verrett, Jimmy Ward, now Jordan Reed, etc ... the 49ers are betting pretty big on a bunch of players with bad injury histories.

The Hawks have zero depth at DE. Yet they had no interest in bringing Ziggy back. That's pretty telling. :wink:

Btw Jordan Reed is like one concussion away from being brain dead.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#418 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Aug 4, 2020 6:28 pm

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I'd guess well under that with incentives. He and Ford can help each other stay healthy. My concern is who it might cost the 49ers on the roster. I love the depth everywhere on the line other than pure edge rushers so it makes some sense.

Good luck. :wink:

Honestly, the guy needs to hang em up. You'd be better off with an open roster spot.


That's always the issue. Trent Williams hasn't been able to stay on the field, but the team is betting big on him ... Jerrick McKinnon, Trent Taylor, Dee Ford, Jalen Hurd, Kwon Alexander, Jason Verrett, Jimmy Ward, now Jordan Reed, etc ... the 49ers are betting pretty big on a bunch of players with bad injury histories.


Yeah, despite a lot of injuries, the team ultimately got pretty lucky with injuries last year given that they were relying heavily on guys with a long injury history. Lynch and Shanahan don't seem concerned about that.

I totally get the upside in players like Williams, Ford, and Reed (less so for McKinnon and Alexander, for whom we overpaid regardless of their health issues), but it's dangerous to rely too heavily on guys with a long track record of nagging injuries (I'm actually less worried about serious, more fluky injuries when discussing these guys). We'll see how it pans out this season.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#419 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Aug 4, 2020 6:37 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Good luck. :wink:

Honestly, the guy needs to hang em up. You'd be better off with an open roster spot.


That's always the issue. Trent Williams hasn't been able to stay on the field, but the team is betting big on him ... Jerrick McKinnon, Trent Taylor, Dee Ford, Jalen Hurd, Kwon Alexander, Jason Verrett, Jimmy Ward, now Jordan Reed, etc ... the 49ers are betting pretty big on a bunch of players with bad injury histories.

The Hawks have zero depth at DE. Yet they had no interest in bringing Ziggy back. That's pretty telling. :wink:

Btw Jordan Reed is like one concussion away from being brain dead.


Yeah, but that contract has almost no risk for the Niners, and the only hit would be potentially losing that last player they cut from the squad (and I think new practice squad rules could mitigate that?). The benefit there is clearly worth the risk, as the dude would be absolutely nasty as the second TE, and you aren't going to find that sort of talent just sitting around without the health concerns.

For Ansah, his upside is maybe five sacks. I'd rather give a younger player a shot than bring him in.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#420 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Aug 4, 2020 6:55 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
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That's always the issue. Trent Williams hasn't been able to stay on the field, but the team is betting big on him ... Jerrick McKinnon, Trent Taylor, Dee Ford, Jalen Hurd, Kwon Alexander, Jason Verrett, Jimmy Ward, now Jordan Reed, etc ... the 49ers are betting pretty big on a bunch of players with bad injury histories.

The Hawks have zero depth at DE. Yet they had no interest in bringing Ziggy back. That's pretty telling. :wink:

Btw Jordan Reed is like one concussion away from being brain dead.


Yeah, but that contract has almost no risk for the Niners, and the only hit would be potentially losing that last player they cut from the squad (and I think new practice squad rules could mitigate that?). The benefit there is clearly worth the risk, as the dude would be absolutely nasty as the second TE, and you aren't going to find that sort of talent just sitting around without the health concerns.

For Ansah, his upside is maybe five sacks. I'd rather give a younger player a shot than bring him in.

The guy just can't stay healthy. That's a pretty big risk.
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