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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#501 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Aug 4, 2020 1:29 am

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ConstableGeneva wrote:Grizzlies lose three straight in the bubble. Now tied with Spurs in loss column (pending PHI game). Their schedule gets tougher from here: UTA, OKC, TOR, BOS, MIL (B2B)


Right but if Im reading it correctly the best we can hope for is pick 14 as the teams that were not invited to the bubble are the only teams that participate in the lottery right?

Pick 14 is better than pick 21 which is where it was recently so frankly I'm hoping for 8 straight loses.

Too bad this wasnt the case back in December.

It's 17, 14, or unprotected 2021 pick (if they move up the lottery).
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#502 » by The Corey's » Tue Aug 4, 2020 1:32 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Grizzlies lose three straight in the bubble. Now tied with Spurs in loss column (pending PHI game). Their schedule gets tougher from here: UTA, OKC, TOR, BOS, MIL (B2B)


Right but if Im reading it correctly the best we can hope for is pick 14 as the teams that were not invited to the bubble are the only teams that participate in the lottery right?

Pick 14 is better than pick 21 which is where it was recently so frankly I'm hoping for 8 straight loses.

Too bad this wasnt the case back in December.

It's 17, 14, or unprotected 2021 pick (if they move up the lottery).


I could have sworn that when everything was announced that the lottery would only be used for the 1-8 teams that arent in the bubble. And that teams 9-14 would automatically be placed according to their records.
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#503 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Aug 4, 2020 1:44 am

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ConstableGeneva wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Right but if Im reading it correctly the best we can hope for is pick 14 as the teams that were not invited to the bubble are the only teams that participate in the lottery right?

Pick 14 is better than pick 21 which is where it was recently so frankly I'm hoping for 8 straight loses.

Too bad this wasnt the case back in December.

It's 17, 14, or unprotected 2021 pick (if they move up the lottery).


I could have sworn that when everything was announced that the lottery would only be used for the 1-8 teams that arent in the bubble. And that teams 9-14 would automatically be placed according to their records.

Lottery will still include 14 teams. But the new record/win percentage of the six bubble teams that don't make the playoffs won't determine their lottery seeding. Their seeding pre-NBA suspension will be used. I don't know if I explained it right.
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#504 » by The Corey's » Tue Aug 4, 2020 1:48 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:It's 17, 14, or unprotected 2021 pick (if they move up the lottery).


I could have sworn that when everything was announced that the lottery would only be used for the 1-8 teams that arent in the bubble. And that teams 9-14 would automatically be placed according to their records.

Lottery will still include 14 teams. But the new record/win percentage of the six bubble teams that don't make the playoffs won't determine their lottery seeding. Their seeding pre-NBA suspension will be used. I don't know if I explained it right.


Well its better than nothing.
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#505 » by themoneyteam2 » Tue Aug 4, 2020 3:23 pm

Standings as of August 4th:
MEM: 32-36
POR - 30-38 (2 GB)
SA - 29-37 (2 GB)
NO - 29-38 (2.5 GB)

Grizzles have an absolutely brutal schedule. They won't be favored in any remaining game. If Boston and Milwaukee play their starters, there's a pretty good chance they go 1-4.

Pelicans have the easiest schedule by far. They have a really good chance to go 4-1.

MEM: Utah, OKC, TOR, BOS, MIL

POR: HOU, DEN, LAC, PHI, DAL, BKN

SAS: DEN, Utah, NOP, HOU, Utah

NOP: SAC, WSH, SAS, SAC, ORL

Here are my predictions:

MEM: 1-4 = 33-40
POR: 3-3 = 33-41
SAS: 2-3 = 31-40
NOP: 4-1 = 33-39

In conclusion, we're definitely getting a play-in game. Pelicans have best chance imo to get the 8 seed still and then Memphis would need to beat them twice in a row to get in the playoffs.
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#506 » by themoneyteam2 » Tue Aug 4, 2020 10:35 pm

Read on Twitter


HUGE news. Feel terrible for JJJ but likely MEM pick ends up in lottery now.
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Post#507 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Aug 4, 2020 10:38 pm

Huge blow to Memphis keeping 8th seed. Get well soon, JJJ!
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Post#508 » by djFan71 » Tue Aug 4, 2020 11:16 pm

themoneyteam2 wrote:
Read on Twitter


HUGE news. Feel terrible for JJJ but likely MEM pick ends up in lottery now.

Man, that sucks. Two great young bigs going down in the restart already with left knee injuries.
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Post#509 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Aug 5, 2020 9:13 pm

Grizzlies with another loss. Blazers now just a game back. Let's go Spurs (close game vs. Nuggets at the half)!
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#510 » by keevsnick1 » Wed Aug 5, 2020 9:38 pm

themoneyteam2 wrote:Standings as of August 4th:
MEM: 32-36
POR - 30-38 (2 GB)
SA - 29-37 (2 GB)
NO - 29-38 (2.5 GB)

Grizzles have an absolutely brutal schedule. They won't be favored in any remaining game. If Boston and Milwaukee play their starters, there's a pretty good chance they go 1-4.

Pelicans have the easiest schedule by far. They have a really good chance to go 4-1.

MEM: Utah, OKC, TOR, BOS, MIL

POR: HOU, DEN, LAC, PHI, DAL, BKN

SAS: DEN, Utah, NOP, HOU, Utah

NOP: SAC, WSH, SAS, SAC, ORL

Here are my predictions:

MEM: 1-4 = 33-40
POR: 3-3 = 33-41
SAS: 2-3 = 31-40
NOP: 4-1 = 33-39

In conclusion, we're definitely getting a play-in game. Pelicans have best chance imo to get the 8 seed still and then Memphis would need to beat them twice in a row to get in the playoffs.


I wouldn't completely rule out PHO either. They are 3-0 so far with win vs LAC and DAL so far.

Their schedule is IND, MIA, OKC, PHI, DAL so no easy ones, but certainly no unwinnable ones.
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#511 » by AKFO » Thu Aug 6, 2020 4:29 am

Memphis down to a one game lead. Not only could that pick be in the lotto but it could also be pick 12 or 13.
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Post#512 » by themoneyteam2 » Thu Aug 6, 2020 4:36 am

AKFO wrote:Memphis down to a one game lead. Not only could that pick be in the lotto but it could also be pick 12 or 13.


It can only be as high as 14. If it lands at 1-4 (2.7% chance), it won’t convey to the Celtics and will be unprotected next year.
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#513 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Aug 6, 2020 4:36 am

AKFO wrote:Memphis down to a one game lead. Not only could that pick be in the lotto but it could also be pick 12 or 13.

Unfortunately, best we can hope for is 14th (or unprotected next year). They'll use pre-bubble seeding for the lottery.
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Post#514 » by DoubleHappiness » Thu Aug 6, 2020 4:43 am

Unprotected next year would be worse imo (maybe I'm wrong). I know the West is tough tough tough.

But even though Ja has had some rough games against us, when he's on he is incredible. I think he has top 5 court vision in the NBA right now. If he makes a sophomore jump and stays healthy (hopefully he does), he's going to be a league wide problem. My favorite player to watch right now.
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#515 » by AKFO » Thu Aug 6, 2020 4:46 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:Unfortunately, best we can hope for is 14th (or unprotected next year). They'll use pre-bubble seeding for the lottery.

themoneyteam2 wrote:It can only be as high as 14. If it lands at 1-4 (2.7% chance), it won’t convey to the Celtics and will be unprotected next year.



Thanks for the correction fellas I wasn't aware the Memphis pick couldn't drop below 14 in the lotto standings
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#516 » by Parliament10 » Thu Aug 6, 2020 7:41 am

What does the "Play-In" look like, now?

It's the race for 9th seed, in the West. Right?
Everybody, down to the Kings, are still in-play?
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#517 » by snowman » Thu Aug 6, 2020 10:45 am

So lets say the both Portland and San Antonio jump over Memphis record wise. Would they be the ones in the playin set ? And if Portland wins it, even though SA would have the better record than Memphis, Portland would get the 8th seed, SA would move back to the 13th pick, with Memphis would wind up conveying the 14th to us ? Seems kind of weird but the way things are looking, at this point, I would say we are a very good bet of getting the 14th, as opposed to the 17th. I'll take it all day.
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Post#518 » by djFan71 » Thu Aug 6, 2020 4:15 pm

DoubleHappiness wrote:Unprotected next year would be worse imo (maybe I'm wrong). I know the West is tough tough tough.

But even though Ja has had some rough games against us, when he's on he is incredible. I think he has top 5 court vision in the NBA right now. If he makes a sophomore jump and stays healthy (hopefully he does), he's going to be a league wide problem. My favorite player to watch right now.

I want next year just for the fact that we have too many picks this year, and people are calling it a weak/flat draft. Worst case scenario you're trading 14 this year for 18-20 next year. That may be worth it alone if next draft is better (which I have no idea if it is).

Then, of course, you have the upside of it being unprotected. Young teams don't necessarily improve linearly, and we don't know what's up with JJJ or Winslow's health. They got rid of their 2 stabilizing vets in Crowder/Iggy. Suns look like they could be better, healthy Blazers are, Zion, etc, etc. I'm willing to roll the dice on it. Unfortunately, it's only 2.4% chance they jump up...
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Re: Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch 

Post#519 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Aug 7, 2020 2:26 am

Blazers now just a half-game back of Grizzlies. Thank you, Dame (45 & 12)! S/O to Gary Trent too (7 made threes).

Spurs against starter-less Jazz tomorrow. Grizzlies play the Thunder. SAS has a chance to gain a game on MEM.
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Post#520 » by djFan71 » Fri Aug 7, 2020 2:31 am

Blazers 0.5 game back!

MEM remaining: OKC, TOR, BOS, MIL.
I feel like they lose the first 2. Then we may have clinched 3, so we need our bench to beat their bench. Ditto MIL. So, conceivable they go 1-3. Puts them at 33-40.

POR 32-38: LAC, PHI, DAL, BKN. Need to go 2-2. 34-40 to take 8th spot. If MEM goes 2-2, POR takes it with 3-1.
PHO: 30-39: MIA, OKC, PHI, DAL. If they go 3-1, they're tied with MEM. Not sure how the tiebreakers work. So, go 4-0.
SAS, NOP, SAC: Need to win out to even have a chance at 9.

Looks like POR could take 8 and play MEM with that advantage as the most likely scenario.

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