Scout: Zion Williamson Moving Worse Than He Did In Summer League

SeattleJazzFan · Post #181 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 7:33 pm

Crizzle wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Crizzle wrote:Hes still shaq like out there overpowering people

and looking good defensively. staying in front of people.

Has he? Sac has 119 points with 10 left in the 4th

pels team defense has been bad, but sacto is hitting shots.

Ambrose · Post #182 » by **Ambrose** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 7:36 pm

Stillwater wrote:
Crizzle wrote:So let me get this straight.... You are saying Zion has been trying to bulk and gain wait instead of losing weight. And that covid is the reason he is gassed after 3 minutes on the court. Is this correct?

Are you saying you dont understand the nutrional plans of anyone adding mass ? It is perfectly reasonable to think that is exaclty what he is doing. It is not like they are making th eplayoffs anyway. imo it is also obvious that he is having some sort of unusal breathing issue, for all we know it could be malaria but the odds are significantly higher its a virus that is easily spread and has been deemed bad enough to call it a world wide Pandemic of epic proportions which is rivaling any in human history oh and he left the bubble so there is that

Why the hell would Zion try to bulk? He's already too big. If your theory was correct, which I suspect it isn't, it's remarkably stupid of him.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #183 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 7:37 pm

skones wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:Can someone bump that thread where the guy was saying Zion would be a top 20 player in his 1st season

he was/is a top 20 player this season.

You don't reach top 20 status in 19 games. Lol at the "is." I don't know what you're looking at if you think he's a top 20 player right now.

24 PER, 24 ppg on 62% TS. there are about 3 guys in the league who can match his combination of scoring and efficiency.

skones · Post #184 » by **skones** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 7:44 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
skones wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
he was/is a top 20 player this season.

You don't reach top 20 status in 19 games. Lol at the "is." I don't know what you're looking at if you think he's a top 20 player right now.

24 PER, 24 ppg on 62% TS. there are about 3 guys in the league who can match his combination of scoring and efficiency.

Again, 19 games.

Post #185 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 8:06 pm

I dont know how anyone could watch today's game and say Zion played good defense. Everyone especially Zion played horrible defense.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #186 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 8:16 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:I dont know how anyone could watch today's game and say Zion played good defense. Everyone especially Zion played horrible defense.

his defense was good. he had two plays, one where jeffries took him back door for an easy lob and one where - i believe it was bazemore who took him to the hoop, other than those two plays, he was solid.

i probably watched 20 of his 22 minutes, so it's possible i missed a couple.

Crizzle · Post #187 » by **Crizzle** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 8:20 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I dont know how anyone could watch today's game and say Zion played good defense. Everyone especially Zion played horrible defense.

his defense was good. he had two plays, one where jeffries took him back door for an easy lob and one where - i believe it was bazemore who took him to the hoop, other than those two plays, he was solid.

i probably watched 20 of his 22 minutes, so it's possible i missed a couple.

are you paying attention to his help defense or lack there of?

SeattleJazzFan · Post #188 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 8:21 pm

food for thought: pelicans are 11-7 when Zion plays 25+ minutes. 0-5 when he plays less than 25 minutes. 18-32 overall when he doesn't play at least 25 minutes - this would include games he doesn't play at all of course.

the lesson: not only is zion producing like almost no rookie ever, his team is a lot better when he plays.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #189 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 8:21 pm

Crizzle wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I dont know how anyone could watch today's game and say Zion played good defense. Everyone especially Zion played horrible defense.

his defense was good. he had two plays, one where jeffries took him back door for an easy lob and one where - i believe it was bazemore who took him to the hoop, other than those two plays, he was solid.

i probably watched 20 of his 22 minutes, so it's possible i missed a couple.

are you paying attention to his help defense or lack there of?

of course. his help defense was fine.

Post #190 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 8:25 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Crizzle wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
his defense was good. he had two plays, one where jeffries took him back door for an easy lob and one where - i believe it was bazemore who took him to the hoop, other than those two plays, he was solid.

i probably watched 20 of his 22 minutes, so it's possible i missed a couple.

are you paying attention to his help defense or lack there of?

of course. his help defense was fine.

Seriously come on. This was his help defense all game long

Read on Twitter

No one even including Jrue and Favors played good help defense today. Zion's help defense was horrible today.

BlueSan · Post #191 » by **BlueSan** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 8:27 pm

He runs on a floor like someone who has problems with his hips already

SeattleJazzFan · Post #192 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 8:39 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Crizzle wrote:
are you paying attention to his help defense or lack there of?

of course. his help defense was fine.

Seriously come on. This was his help defense all game long

Read on Twitter

No one even including Jrue and Favors played good help defense today. Zion's help defense was horrible today.

Zion's help defense was fine.

Stillwater · Post #193 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 8:39 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:I dont know how anyone could watch today's game and say Zion played good defense. Everyone especially Zion played horrible defense.

imo he is out there only to honor his obligation to his contract and is not well

SeattleJazzFan · Post #194 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 8:41 pm

Stillwater wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I dont know how anyone could watch today's game and say Zion played good defense. Everyone especially Zion played horrible defense.

imo he is out there only to honor his obligation to his contract and is not well

10-12 for 24 points in 22 minutes but he's not well. lol, this thread is golden.

Tekniskfeil23 · Post #195 » by **Tekniskfeil23** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 10:05 pm

He looks like Escalade out there.
His defense is laughable

Watch on YouTube

Post #196 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 10:09 pm

Zion looks like an old Big Baby Davis out there.

TheBullsDynasty · Post #197 » by **TheBullsDynasty** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 10:09 pm

Tekniskfeil23 wrote:He looks like Escalade out there.
His defense is laughable

Watch on YouTube

Holy cow. He moves great for his weight.

How is it that he can dunk though? He doesn't look that tall.

Edit: Nevermind. Turns out he was 6'10" but it's still very impressive. Also RIP.

Stillwater · Post #198 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Aug 6, 2020 10:28 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I dont know how anyone could watch today's game and say Zion played good defense. Everyone especially Zion played horrible defense.

imo he is out there only to honor his obligation to his contract and is not well

10-12 for 24 points in 22 minutes but he's not well. lol, this thread is golden.

wasnt talking about production...

dlts20 · Post #199 » by **dlts20** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 12:08 am

TheBullsDynasty wrote:
Tekniskfeil23 wrote:He looks like Escalade out there.
His defense is laughable

Watch on YouTube

Holy cow. He moves great for his weight.

How is it that he can dunk though? He doesn't look that tall.

Edit: Nevermind. Turns out he was 6'10" but it's still very impressive. Also RIP.

That's Mark Jackson's brother and I could have sworn that he was 6'7 but they do have him listed as 6'10

Crizzle · Post #200 » by **Crizzle** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 12:09 am

zion is like shaq on the offensive end for the most part. But his defense is dog $h1t.

The big picture here is that there is no way he can sustain playing at this weight. Its nice that he has played like this in 4 games. You really think he could play an 82 game series without blowing a knee at 300+lbs? Its ridiculous