Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch

Post #521 » by **snowman** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 2:35 am

I want Portland, Phoenix and SAS to pass them. I don't want them in the play-in series at all. I know 14 is as low as the pick can get, but I don't want them pulling some miracle and win the play-in. I want that 14th pick. I want a dead eye shooter for the bench mob !!!

SMTBSI · Post #522 » by **SMTBSI** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 4:00 am

I'd had it backwards in my head. Thought the MEM pick could fall just as far as they could manage, while ours was frozen at 27.

Eff it, let's sit everybody after we secure 3rd seed. #14 and #25 is better capital than #17 and #27. Every little bit counts.

Have to imagine we could get into the top 10 with #14, #25, and #30, if we really wanted to, no? That would be a nice little windfall after much of a season of assuming we would only be adding more late picks.

themoneyteam2 · Post #523 » by **themoneyteam2** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 4:12 am

SMTBSI wrote:I'd had it backwards in my head. Thought the MEM pick could fall just as far as they could manage, while ours was frozen at 27.

Eff it, let's sit everybody after we secure 3rd seed. #14 and #25 is better capital than #17 and #27. Every little bit counts.

Have to imagine we could get into the top 10 with #14, #25, and #30, if we really wanted to, no? That would be a nice little windfall after much of a season of assuming we would only be adding more late picks.

They could. I just wonder who they’d be targeting there in the top 10. 14,25,30 probably gets you as high as #8.

Also depends on roster spots. That might make the most sense since we currently have 12 guaranteed contracts next year I believe. I’d personally lean towards making two 1st round selections this year but if a guy like Wiseman somehow fell to 8 I’d definitely make that trade!

ConstableGeneva · Post #524 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 4:21 am

There's a scenario that has probably 0.000000002% odds of happening (not a real calculation) that we end up with the 21st pick, but we're the 4th seed facing the Pacers in the 1st round. I think that's as high our own pick could go.

26th pick: MIA 47-26
25th pick: DEN 47-26
24th pick: UTA 47-25
23rd pick: HOU 46-26
22nd pick: OKC 46-26
21st pick: BOS* 46-26
20th pick: IND** 44-29
19th pick: PHI 44-29

*wins coin toss
**owns tiebreaker for playoff seeding

EDIT: I still had us winning against MEM. So we go 1-3 rest of our sched.

Post #525 » by **djFan71** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 5:06 am

themoneyteam2 wrote:
SMTBSI wrote:I'd had it backwards in my head. Thought the MEM pick could fall just as far as they could manage, while ours was frozen at 27.

Eff it, let's sit everybody after we secure 3rd seed. #14 and #25 is better capital than #17 and #27. Every little bit counts.

Have to imagine we could get into the top 10 with #14, #25, and #30, if we really wanted to, no? That would be a nice little windfall after much of a season of assuming we would only be adding more late picks.

They could. I just wonder who they’d be targeting there in the top 10. 14,25,30 probably gets you as high as #8.

Also depends on roster spots. That might make the most sense since we currently have 12 guaranteed contracts next year I believe. I’d personally lean towards making two 1st round selections this year but if a guy like Wiseman somehow fell to 8 I’d definitely make that trade!

I might trade up if we could get Okongwu, Toppin or Wiseman at the tail end of the top 10.

Post #526 » by **djFan71** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 5:12 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:There's a scenario that has probably 0.000000002% odds of happening (not a real calculation) that we end up with the 21st pick, but we're the 4th seed facing the Pacers in the 1st round. I think that's as high our own pick could go.

26th pick: MIA 47-26
25th pick: DEN 47-26
24th pick: UTA 47-25
23rd pick: HOU 46-26
22nd pick: OKC 46-26
21st pick: BOS* 46-26
20th pick: IND** 44-29
19th pick: PHI 44-29

*wins coin toss
**owns tiebreaker for playoff seeding

I'm glad I'm not the only one spending time on this stuff. Assuming we at least go 2-2, and end up 47-25, it gets tighter. But DEN could pass us. HOU very well could 4-0 and tie us. UTA/OKC could go 4/5-0, but seems unlikely.

So, we're kinda hoping to be tied for 25 and win the coin toss to 24. Which is the last spot we send the 2nd to CHA for the right to let them overpay Terry. Maybe UTA/OKC and the coins help us out and get to 23 and keep 53.

Post #527 » by **djFan71** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:08 am

MEM pick could end up 15 right? It's only the draft lottery team records that are frozen pre-bubble, I thought. The the teams in the playoffs use their combined record. Which is why BOS pick could go to 24-26 range. If MEM makes the playoffs, but maintains a worse record than BKN/ORL - wouldn't they be 15?

ConstableGeneva · Post #528 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:18 am

djFan71 wrote:MEM pick could end up 15 right? It's only the draft lottery team records that are frozen pre-bubble, I thought. The the teams in the playoffs use their combined record. Which is why BOS pick could go to 24-26 range. If MEM makes the playoffs, but maintains a worse record than BKN/ORL - wouldn't they be 15?

You're correct. I thought all along they were locked into 17th if they make the playoffs. They can end up anywhere between 15-17.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/08/2020-nba-draft-lottery-update.html

Post #529 » by **djFan71** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:27 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
djFan71 wrote:MEM pick could end up 15 right? It's only the draft lottery team records that are frozen pre-bubble, I thought. The the teams in the playoffs use their combined record. Which is why BOS pick could go to 24-26 range. If MEM makes the playoffs, but maintains a worse record than BKN/ORL - wouldn't they be 15?

You're correct. I thought all along they were locked into 17th if they make the playoffs. They can end up anywhere between 15-17.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/08/2020-nba-draft-lottery-update.html

I was thinking that too, then it didn't make sense why our pick could change, but not theirs. Maybe we just assumed they would win a game or 2 and ORL/BKN would have no chance to have better records. So, it was practically a lock at 17.

SMTBSI · Post #530 » by **SMTBSI** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 5:08 pm

djFan71 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
djFan71 wrote:MEM pick could end up 15 right? It's only the draft lottery team records that are frozen pre-bubble, I thought. The the teams in the playoffs use their combined record. Which is why BOS pick could go to 24-26 range. If MEM makes the playoffs, but maintains a worse record than BKN/ORL - wouldn't they be 15?

You're correct. I thought all along they were locked into 17th if they make the playoffs. They can end up anywhere between 15-17.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/08/2020-nba-draft-lottery-update.html

I was thinking that too, then it didn't make sense why our pick could change, but not theirs. Maybe we just assumed they would win a game or 2 and ORL/BKN would have no chance to have better records. So, it was practically a lock at 17.

Same as both of you. I thought it was basically 17, or 14 at this point. Took a look at tankathon yesterday and literally did a double-take that they had MEM at 15. Had to go look it up to make sure that was right.

MEM was just playing so well, and we all must have subconsciously discarded the possibility of 8th seed in the West actually having a worse record than 8th in the East. That never happens.

Post #531 » by **djFan71** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 7:58 pm

Looking for OKC over MEM, BKN over SAC and ORL over PHI today.

zoyathedestroya · Post #532 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 10:16 pm

Grizzlies down big early in the game to OKC but about to win by 20+.

Read on Twitter

Spoiler:

SMTBSI · Post #533 » by **SMTBSI** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 11:18 pm

Watch the Grizzlies go 1-7 after the restart and nobody takes advantage. :banghead:

Post #534 » by **djFan71** » Sat Aug 8, 2020 12:05 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Grizzlies down big early in the game to OKC but about to win by 20+.

Read on Twitter

Spoiler:

Ugh, my bad. I have Gormanesque jinx powers apparently.

The Corey's · Post #535 » by **The Corey's** » Sat Aug 8, 2020 3:18 am

So we need memphis to lose all 3 games which is doable, and we need orlando to win 1 so that at the very least its portland vs memphis on the play in.

I dont know if there is enough games left for portland to leap memphis with enough games in hand to avoid the play in all together.

zoyathedestroya · Post #536 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Aug 8, 2020 2:00 pm

Kawhi resting against POR. Go Blazers!

keevsnick1 · Post #537 » by **keevsnick1** » Sat Aug 8, 2020 3:44 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Kawhi resting against POR. Go Blazers!

I'm sure its because its the first night of a B2B for the Clippers, but ALSO if they happen to lose to POR which helps POR get the final playoff spot and MAYBE upset or push the Lakers I'm sure the Clips are okay with that.

The Corey's · Post #538 » by **The Corey's** » Sun Aug 9, 2020 7:12 pm

I been reading it wrong. Its irrelevant what orlando does because they're out east.

Its gonna be memphis vs someone for a play in unless portland goes on a major collapse.

So we need portland to win that play in game obviously

GoGreen · Post #539 » by **GoGreen** » Sun Aug 9, 2020 8:11 pm

So in order to get that 14th pick, what exactly needs to happen? Still utterly clueless with these seeding rules.

zoyathedestroya · Post #540 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sun Aug 9, 2020 8:21 pm

GoGreen wrote:So in order to get that 14th pick, what exactly needs to happen? Still utterly clueless with these seeding rules.

The surefire way is for two teams to pass Memphis in the standings so they fall to 10th in the West.

The other way is if they lose in the play-in tournament as either the 8th seed (MEM has twice-to-beat advantage) or the 9th seed (MEM has to beat team X twice to make playoffs).