2020 Season/Offseason (FA/Trade) Speculation - the Season Resumes

[bwgood77]

Booker and Rubio are now neck and neck among our regular starterrs as the best 3 pt % shooters this year by %. Who will prevail with the best 3pt% among the regular starters when it's all said and done?

Rubio certainly deserves credit for how well he has shot from behind the arc this season, over 36%. I can't say I expect it, but if he improved on that next season it would be huge.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Booker and Rubio are now neck and neck among our regular starterrs as the best 3 pt % shooters this year by %. Who will prevail with the best 3pt% among the regular starters when it's all said and done?

Rubio certainly deserves credit for how well he has shot from behind the arc this season, over 36%. I can't say I expect it, but if he improved on that next season it would be huge.

Rubio has definitely worked to improve his shot and is pretty good on spot up 3s. Last year was a rough one for him in general but especially from 3. It's weird he seems fluxuate from ok to bad from 3 every other season.

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[nevetsov]

Are they still giving out player of the month awards in the restart?

[bigfoot]

FYI .. If we are fortunate enough to make the playoffs as the 8th seed (win the play-in tournament) we will have the 15th pick in the draft. If not we will be the 10th seed in lottery with a slim chance to move into the top 4 but likely to end up with the 10th pick or worst case 11th pick.

[Ghost of Kleine]

FYI .. If we are fortunate enough to make the playoffs as the 8th seed (win the play-in tournament) we will have the 15th pick in the draft. If not we will be the 10th seed in lottery with a slim chance to move into the top 4 but likely to end up with the 10th pick or worst case 11th pick.

I'm cool with picking later IF it means we can actually compete and get the much needed expierence. Besides, This draft actually plays to that being an advantage, in that the talent level is pretty even/ consistent throughout. So we could still win both scenarios, if we're assertive in our scouting.

[AtheJ415]

FYI .. If we are fortunate enough to make the playoffs as the 8th seed (win the play-in tournament) we will have the 15th pick in the draft. If not we will be the 10th seed in lottery with a slim chance to move into the top 4 but likely to end up with the 10th pick or worst case 11th pick.

I'm cool with picking later IF it means we can actually compete and get the much needed expierence. Besides, This draft actually plays to that being an advantage, in that the talent level is pretty even/ consistent throughout. So we could still win both scenarios, if we're assertive in our scouting.

I'm okay with 15. Draft Riller. With Cam and Saric's play we may not need a PF like we think. Keep Saric. Chuck Kaminsky to the moon. Allows us to go BPA in Free Agency.

PG -- Rubio, Riller, Payne or Carter
SG -- Booker, Riller, Bridges, Payne
SF -- Bridges, Cam
PF -- Cam or Oubre, Cam or Oubre, Saric
C -- Ayton, Saric

[SideSwipe]

FYI .. If we are fortunate enough to make the playoffs as the 8th seed (win the play-in tournament) we will have the 15th pick in the draft. If not we will be the 10th seed in lottery with a slim chance to move into the top 4 but likely to end up with the 10th pick or worst case 11th pick.

I'm cool with picking later IF it means we can actually compete and get the much needed expierence. Besides, This draft actually plays to that being an advantage, in that the talent level is pretty even/ consistent throughout. So we could still win both scenarios, if we're assertive in our scouting.

I'm okay with 15. Draft Riller. With Cam and Saric's play we may not need a PF like we think. Keep Saric. Chuck Kaminsky to the moon. Allows us to go BPA in Free Agency.

PG -- Rubio, Riller, Payne or Carter
SG -- Booker, Riller, Bridges, Payne
SF -- Bridges, Cam
PF -- Cam or Oubre, Cam or Oubre, Saric
C -- Ayton, Saric

I thought they actually locked draft position. Meaning our chances in the draft lottery/draft will remain at 10th. Anyone have that reference?

[AtheJ415]

I'm cool with picking later IF it means we can actually compete and get the much needed expierence. Besides, This draft actually plays to that being an advantage, in that the talent level is pretty even/ consistent throughout. So we could still win both scenarios, if we're assertive in our scouting.

I'm okay with 15. Draft Riller. With Cam and Saric's play we may not need a PF like we think. Keep Saric. Chuck Kaminsky to the moon. Allows us to go BPA in Free Agency.

PG -- Rubio, Riller, Payne or Carter
SG -- Booker, Riller, Bridges, Payne
SF -- Bridges, Cam
PF -- Cam or Oubre, Cam or Oubre, Saric
C -- Ayton, Saric

I thought they actually locked draft position. Meaning our chances in the draft lottery/draft will remain at 10th. Anyone have that reference?

Our odds don't get worse if we don't make the playoffs. If we do make the playoffs we're the 8 seed so we do drop.

[suns12345]

good article from Zach Lowe that has two phoenix related sections for those interested... sorry if it was posted already

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbareturn29594076/ten-things-like-including-most-exciting-nerd-thing-nba

[lilfishi22]

FYI .. If we are fortunate enough to make the playoffs as the 8th seed (win the play-in tournament) we will have the 15th pick in the draft. If not we will be the 10th seed in lottery with a slim chance to move into the top 4 but likely to end up with the 10th pick or worst case 11th pick.

I'm cool with picking later IF it means we can actually compete and get the much needed expierence. Besides, This draft actually plays to that being an advantage, in that the talent level is pretty even/ consistent throughout. So we could still win both scenarios, if we're assertive in our scouting.

Getting to the playoffs, even under these circumstances, is a huge milestone. Competitive or not. Just playing under that pressure, that intensity and against title contenders is going to be huge for them, even if they end up as fodder. It also shines a different light on this team and on Booker's short career so far. We're actually going to be the bright now Suns that Kevin O'Connor has called us.

For the first time in a long time, the draft isn't on my mind at all. We're in the playoffs race and that's all I care about right now

[AtheJ415]

I kind of wonder if Dallas would consider something centered on Oubre for Kleber. Kleber on this team would be absurd with Ayton and Bridges.

[Qwigglez]

I kind of wonder if Dallas would consider something centered on Oubre for Kleber. Kleber on this team would be absurd with Ayton and Bridges.

Doncic would make Oubre an all-star.

[King4Day]

Does anyone know how the lottery odds work?
I assumed we get to pick where we end up. So if we finish with the 13th or 14th worst record, we pick there and no longer 10th.

Then I saw this:

The Wizards are likely going to fall behind the Chicago Bulls, too. Washington’s final four games are against the Pelicans, Thunder, Bucks, and Celtics. At that point, the Wiz can finally start their offseason, which honestly should have happened five months ago.

There’s more bad news for Washington: their lottery odds are locked at what they were before the restart even after the additional losses. The Wizards will enter the lottery with the ninth-best odds for getting the No. 1 pick despite having the eighth-worst record at the moment:

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/8/6/21356951/nba-standings-bubble-wizards-hornets-draft-odds-lottery

So what happens if we make the playoffs? Do we still get the 10th spot in the lottery? If Memphis misses the playoffs, are they still out of lottery (their pick goes to Boston so I doubt they care)? All of this would be incredible


EDIT: Just saw this. It sounds like if we miss the playoffs, we are locked in at 10. I guess if we make it, we'll pick after the lottery (which is fair)

The Wizards were eliminated from playoff contention during the NBA's restart in Orlando, which also made official their lottery odds, as the teams that missed out on the postseason would draw those odds based on the league standings from March 11, when the league initially shut down.

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/2020-nba-draft-lottery-wizards-have-9th-best-odds-no-1-pick

[Saberestar]

I kind of wonder if Dallas would consider something centered on Oubre for Kleber. Kleber on this team would be absurd with Ayton and Bridges.

I prefer Cam Johnson and/or Saric over Kleber to play PF.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I kind of wonder if Dallas would consider something centered on Oubre for Kleber. Kleber on this team would be absurd with Ayton and Bridges.

It has been mentioned before a few times on the trade board, Can't seem to find the exact thread though? But basically it was originally something like Oubre for Kleber and the 31. Also mentioned that Oubre for Kleber and the 18 would be optimal. But Dallas fans replied with Kleber being better assumed value due to contract, So including the 18 would be an overpay. Some felt the fairest and most equitable value would be Oubre and the 10th for Kleber and the 31st pick. At that point I merely suggested Oubre for Delon Wright/ 18/31. Then planned on using the additional cap space ( partially) for one of Gallinari, Jerami Grant, Ibaka, Milsapp or Favors. And then the MLE for a Augustine or Holiday, or maybe Reggie Jackson and Bryn Forbes. So IF we successfully completed a trade around the premise of Oubre 10th for Maxi Kleber and the 18th / 31st picks, I would then look to:

18- Draft- Riller or Kira Lewis or Tyrell Terry!
31- Draft Tyler Bey, Elijah Hughes, Trevelin Queen. Overall, A lot of Dallas fans have the tendency to inflate ( Klebers') percieved value in trades due to contract and fit. But IF I knew that our front office was actually committed to moving Oubre, AND COULDN'T RESIGN HIM,
OR HE WOULDN'T CHOOSE TO RESIGN, Then this is definitely one trade that I would strongly consider!

The flip side of that coin however, would have us keeping Oubre for now, AND hopefully selecting Vassell at 10, And then adding 2 more picks. One in the early 20s' for Riller or Tyrell Terry. And then a 2nd round pick to add Killian Tillie or Paul Reed on the cheap. I mention Killian Tillie because even though he's been hyped as a poor man's Gallinari, I see him being much closer to a better shooting Maxi Kleber. One tangible trade possibility that I would be intrigued by though ( ZIF OUBRE IS LEAVING)?? Would be a trade up scenario with Atlanta: Oubre/ 10th pick for 4th / 54th pick. So we add a ton of cap space to put towards Gallinari, and then at 4, We GUARANTEE ourselves to get either Vassell (1st choice) or Okoro ( 2nd choice). Either can look down the perimeter and also the " point of attack " opposing ball handlers. And then at 54, I'm absolutely, 100% drafting Merrill to be our version of Kennard in the backcourt alongside of either Vassell ( hopefully) or Okoro. Elite offense ( Merrill) and Elite defense ( Vassell/ Okoro) off our bench! Lastly, I'd add a late first/ early 2nd to add either Paul Reed or Precious Achiuwa or Xavier Tillman to be our elite defensive frontcourt compliment off the bench. So from the draft, I really want this: ( for our depth issues):
- An ELITE lockdown perimeter defensive wing in either VASSELL or OKORO.
- An ELITE frontcourt versatile, switchable 4/5 defender in either Paul Reed or Precious Achiuwa or Xavier Tillman.
- An ELITE perimeter shooter ( floor spacer) with strong iso scoring and playmaking ability in Merrill. IF we address those 3 things within this draft/ offseason, Then we'll definitely be an upper tier playoff team going forward.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I kind of wonder if Dallas would consider something centered on Oubre for Kleber. Kleber on this team would be absurd with Ayton and Bridges.

I prefer Cam Johnson and/or Saric over Kleber to play PF.

Cam Johnson and Saric looks pretty decent for sure. But then of course still adding defensive depth and length and athleticism around them for more bench depth/ size. As long as Saric keeps bringing the effort, Then I'm fine with bringing him back off the bench. But we'll definitely still need to look to add more athleticism and RIM PROTECTION to our frontcourt. Kaminsky and Diallo can go! And they can be replaced by an athletic, long 3 and D 4/5 from the draft. Any of Okungwu, Jalen Smith, Paul Reed, Precious Achiuwa would be optimal. And could be interchangeable with Saric situationally at the 4/5. Then replace Okobo with C Payne or Riller or Tyrell Terry or Sam Merrill. Draft Vassell or Okoro at 10.

And for anyone wanting a Maxi Kleber ( including me! As a consideration) Killian Tillie is very comparable honestly, And could be had for only a 2nd round pick. He's pretty similar, Yet a better overall 3 pt shooter.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.peachtreehoops.com/platform/amp/2020/4/29/21215877/killian-tillie-2020-nba-draft-scouting-report-atlanta-hawks-gonzaga-shooting-third-big-role-player

As both a good shooter and a good defender, Tillie could theoretically play a role similar to Kleber. And due to his injury history, his likely draft range will have his injury risk baked into the price. A team could have an opportunity to select a player to fit the valuable “Kleber role” outside of the first round (a good deal in itself), and without having to pay a premium in free agency, a terrific price for Tillie’s skillset.

[Slim Charless]

I kind of wonder if Dallas would consider something centered on Oubre for Kleber. Kleber on this team would be absurd with Ayton and Bridges.

It has been mentioned before a few times on the trade board, Can't seem to find the exact thread though? But basically it was originally something like Oubre for Kleber and the 31. Also mentioned that Oubre for Kleber and the 18 would be optimal. But Dallas fans replied with Kleber being better assumed value due to contract, So including the 18 would be an overpay. Some felt the fairest and most equitable value would be Oubre and the 10th for Kleber and the 31st pick. At that point I merely suggested Oubre for Delon Wright/ 18/31. Then planned on using the additional cap space ( partially) for one of Gallinari, Jerami Grant, Ibaka, Milsapp or Favors. And then the MLE for a Augustine or Holiday, or maybe Reggie Jackson and Bryn Forbes. So IF we successfully completed a trade around the premise of Oubre 10th for Maxi Kleber and the 18th / 31st picks, I would then look to:

18- Draft- Riller or Kira Lewis or Tyrell Terry!
31- Draft Tyler Bey, Elijah Hughes, Trevelin Queen. Overall, A lot of Dallas fans have the tendency to inflate ( Klebers') percieved value in trades due to contract and fit. But IF I knew that our front office was actually committed to moving Oubre, AND COULDN'T RESIGN HIM,
OR HE WOULDN'T CHOOSE TO RESIGN, Then this is definitely one trade that I would strongly consider!

The flip side of that coin however, would have us keeping Oubre for now, AND hopefully selecting Vassell at 10, And then adding 2 more picks. One in the early 20s' for Riller or Tyrell Terry. And then a 2nd round pick to add Killian Tillie or Paul Reed on the cheap. I mention Killian Tillie because even though he's been hyped as a poor man's Gallinari, I see him being much closer to a better shooting Maxi Kleber. One tangible trade possibility that I would be intrigued by though ( ZIF OUBRE IS LEAVING)?? Would be a trade up scenario with Atlanta: Oubre/ 10th pick for 4th / 54th pick. So we add a ton of cap space to put towards Gallinari, and then at 4, We GUARANTEE ourselves to get either Vassell (1st choice) or Okoro ( 2nd choice). Either can look down the perimeter and also the " point of attack " opposing ball handlers. And then at 54, I'm absolutely, 100% drafting Merrill to be our version of Kennard in the backcourt alongside of either Vassell ( hopefully) or Okoro. Elite offense ( Merrill) and Elite defense ( Vassell/ Okoro) off our bench! Lastly, I'd add a late first/ early 2nd to add either Paul Reed or Precious Achiuwa or Xavier Tillman to be our elite defensive frontcourt compliment off the bench. So from the draft, I really want this: ( for our depth issues):
- An ELITE lockdown perimeter defensive wing in either VASSELL or OKORO.
- An ELITE frontcourt versatile, switchable 4/5 defender in either Paul Reed or Precious Achiuwa or Xavier Tillman.
- An ELITE perimeter shooter ( floor spacer) with strong iso scoring and playmaking ability in Merrill. IF we address those 3 things within this draft/ offseason, Then we'll definitely be an upper tier playoff team going forward.

Those Dallas fans are absolutely insane. In what universe do we need to add value to get the **** player? We would need at least the 31st pick. KO walks into their locker room on his 1st day as the third best player they have.
I wouldn't really want Maxi anyway. I'd like to give Cam a honest run at the 4 but what I would like is more D and shot blocking there so if anything I'd use Oubre to trade up and grab Okgongwu. That way, we can sub in size and more athleticism when needed if Cams shot isn't falling or we're facing too big an opposing frontcourt. Also he'd be useful when Ayton gets in foul trouble

[Djedefre]

Can we PLEASE trade for Towns

[Ghost of Kleine]

I kind of wonder if Dallas would consider something centered on Oubre for Kleber. Kleber on this team would be absurd with Ayton and Bridges.

It has been mentioned before a few times on the trade board, Can't seem to find the exact thread though? But basically it was originally something like Oubre for Kleber and the 31. Also mentioned that Oubre for Kleber and the 18 would be optimal. But Dallas fans replied with Kleber being better assumed value due to contract, So including the 18 would be an overpay. Some felt the fairest and most equitable value would be Oubre and the 10th for Kleber and the 31st pick. At that point I merely suggested Oubre for Delon Wright/ 18/31. Then planned on using the additional cap space ( partially) for one of Gallinari, Jerami Grant, Ibaka, Milsapp or Favors. And then the MLE for a Augustine or Holiday, or maybe Reggie Jackson and Bryn Forbes. So IF we successfully completed a trade around the premise of Oubre 10th for Maxi Kleber and the 18th / 31st picks, I would then look to:

18- Draft- Riller or Kira Lewis or Tyrell Terry!
31- Draft Tyler Bey, Elijah Hughes, Trevelin Queen. Overall, A lot of Dallas fans have the tendency to inflate ( Klebers') percieved value in trades due to contract and fit. But IF I knew that our front office was actually committed to moving Oubre, AND COULDN'T RESIGN HIM,
OR HE WOULDN'T CHOOSE TO RESIGN, Then this is definitely one trade that I would strongly consider!

The flip side of that coin however, would have us keeping Oubre for now, AND hopefully selecting Vassell at 10, And then adding 2 more picks. One in the early 20s' for Riller or Tyrell Terry. And then a 2nd round pick to add Killian Tillie or Paul Reed on the cheap. I mention Killian Tillie because even though he's been hyped as a poor man's Gallinari, I see him being much closer to a better shooting Maxi Kleber. One tangible trade possibility that I would be intrigued by though ( ZIF OUBRE IS LEAVING)?? Would be a trade up scenario with Atlanta: Oubre/ 10th pick for 4th / 54th pick. So we add a ton of cap space to put towards Gallinari, and then at 4, We GUARANTEE ourselves to get either Vassell (1st choice) or Okoro ( 2nd choice). Either can look down the perimeter and also the " point of attack " opposing ball handlers. And then at 54, I'm absolutely, 100% drafting Merrill to be our version of Kennard in the backcourt alongside of either Vassell ( hopefully) or Okoro. Elite offense ( Merrill) and Elite defense ( Vassell/ Okoro) off our bench! Lastly, I'd add a late first/ early 2nd to add either Paul Reed or Precious Achiuwa or Xavier Tillman to be our elite defensive frontcourt compliment off the bench. So from the draft, I really want this: ( for our depth issues):
- An ELITE lockdown perimeter defensive wing in either VASSELL or OKORO.
- An ELITE frontcourt versatile, switchable 4/5 defender in either Paul Reed or Precious Achiuwa or Xavier Tillman.
- An ELITE perimeter shooter ( floor spacer) with strong iso scoring and playmaking ability in Merrill. IF we address those 3 things within this draft/ offseason, Then we'll definitely be an upper tier playoff team going forward.

Those Dallas fans are absolutely insane. In what universe do we need to add value to get the **** player? We would need at least the 31st pick. KO walks into their locker room on his 1st day as the third best player they have.
I wouldn't really want Maxi anyway. I'd like to give Cam a honest run at the 4 but what I would like is more D and shot blocking there so if anything I'd use Oubre to trade up and grab Okgongwu. That way, we can sub in size and more athleticism when needed if Cams shot isn't falling or we're facing too big an opposing frontcourt. Also he'd be useful when Ayton gets in foul trouble

I'd be all for Okungwu! And I'd kill for a combination of Okungwu ( frontcourt) and Vassell or Okoro on the ( perimeter). Add either of those combinations to what we already have with Bridges, And we'd have an absolutely suffocating lockdown perimeter defense, As well as a very strong frontcourt defense with Okungwu and Ayton. Or If we can't land Okungwu, Then maybe one of: Smith or Reed or Achiuwa and Ayton? Then you just let your shooters bomb away, And our defense will shutdown the opposing teams offense!

[bwgood77]

The NBA has fined Golden State Warriors forward Draymond Green $50,000 for tampering because of comments he made about Phoenix Suns guard Devin Booker while he was serving as a TNT analyst, the league announced Sunday.

During Friday's broadcast, Green praised Booker and the Suns for their undefeated start in the NBA bubble at the Walt Disney World Resort, "but get my man out of Phoenix."

"It's not good for him. It's not good for his career," Green said. "... They gotta get Book out of Phoenix. I need my man to go somewhere where he can play great basketball all the time and win, because he's that type of player."

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29628273/draymond-green-gets-50000-tampering-fine-saying-devin-booker-leave-suns