Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[Reign23]

What would it take to get Beal from the Wizards? I would rather Beal than any of the other guys being thrown around as possible trade targets.

yeah he is the best player we could possibly trade for, but the price would just be too expensive..

I think you have to give up at least RJ, our 2020 pick and a future unprotected first. maybe even more..

[sol537]

I would 100% trade for Isaac if the cost was unreasonable

I'd also consider a trade for Hield & Giles if they can be had on the cheap

[br7knicks]

I would 100% trade for Isaac if the cost was unreasonable

I'd also consider a trade for Hield & Giles if they can be had on the cheap

Prior to this injury, I'd say yes, me too.

But a big problem is that, I believe, Orlando is pretty high on Isaac. Higher than Gordon, I believe

[newyorker4ever]

What kind of player should the Knicks be seeking to be RJ's back court partner?

https://t.co/qNq1jk0ha9

[islanders11040]

I like the idea of signing Gallinari this offseason. Fits a huge shooting need. Can play the 3 and possibly some 4. Dude is 6'8'' and should be stronger at this stage of his career. I feel he has at least 2 very good years left in his career since he plays mostly skill based with his dribble and shooting game.

The negative is injury concerns but that could also be the reason we are a competitive destination as a bad team. This is a good calculated risk in terms of building a good team. Getting lucky in the draft with a drafted PG (which happens before FA), RJ, Mitch, Gallo could form the foundation of a good starting lineup.

We dont need to tank right off the bat. Honestly the Knicks have a better track record at drafting later in the draft rather than whatever we have been doing the past few years. And of course the flattened odds which matters somewhat.

[Esq-4]

I like the idea of signing Gallinari this offseason. Fits a huge shooting need. Can play the 3 and possibly some 4. Dude is 6'8'' and should be stronger at this stage of his career. I feel he has at least 2 very good years left in his career since he plays mostly skill based with his dribble and shooting game.

The negative is injury concerns but that could also be the reason we are a competitive destination as a bad team. This is a good calculated risk in terms of building a good team. Getting lucky in the draft with a drafted PG (which happens before FA), RJ, Mitch, Gallo could form the foundation of a good starting lineup.

We dont need to tank right off the bat. Honestly the Knicks have a better track record at drafting later in the draft rather than whatever we have been doing the past few years. And of course the flattened odds which matters somewhat.

I was looking at OKC. If you took Gallo and CP3 and put them on the Knicks, is it a worse team than OKC is now? Yes, they have SGA and Adams, but Knicks have RJ and Mitch, plus an upcoming lotto pick.

For argument sake, assume our roster is also less Portis, Ellington and Payton to make space, plus DSJr and Knox to get Paul. I'd like Gibson, Harkless and Frank to stay - Knox too honestly, but had to offer up someone in this hypothetical. I'm also going to assume for this hypothetical that Randle cannot get moved in the Paul trade, but I also forget cap wise if it would be necessary to add both Paul and Gallo.

[Richard4444]

I like the idea of signing Gallinari this offseason. Fits a huge shooting need. Can play the 3 and possibly some 4. Dude is 6'8'' and should be stronger at this stage of his career. I feel he has at least 2 very good years left in his career since he plays mostly skill based with his dribble and shooting game.

The negative is injury concerns but that could also be the reason we are a competitive destination as a bad team. This is a good calculated risk in terms of building a good team. Getting lucky in the draft with a drafted PG (which happens before FA), RJ, Mitch, Gallo could form the foundation of a good starting lineup.

We dont need to tank right off the bat. Honestly the Knicks have a better track record at drafting later in the draft rather than whatever we have been doing the past few years. And of course the flattened odds which matters somewhat.

He is a 4.

[Richard4444]

OKC is one of the teams with worst paces in NBA (20th). CP3 and Galo are half-court experts, relatively slow players.

RJ, Mitch, and Frank are better playing in transition, at full speed.

Are they a good fit?

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Is it really a lock that the Pels retain Brandon Ingram?
I think the Pels are a fine collection of players both young and old but BI to me is best at the 4...there’s a little overlap stylistically between he and Zion. And Jrue is the heart and soul of that roster...

I don’t think they’re all in on a Zion-Jrue-BI core.
Just a thought.

[jullybully21]

Is it really a lock that the Pels retain Brandon Ingram?
I think the Pels are a fine collection of players both young and old but BI to me is best at the 4...there’s a little overlap stylistically between he and Zion. And Jrue is the heart and soul of that roster...

I don’t think they’re all in on a Zion-Jrue-BI core.
Just a thought.

I would love for the Knicks to go after Brandon Ingram come free agency. I would even do a sign & trade and trade a Mavs pick for Ingram. If we can get him and Joe Harris in FA and draft our PG (Melo/Hayes) that would be a great free agency for the team.

[br7knicks]

So I'm not too familiar with how strong this draft is - I'm under the impression that it's not very strong, even towards the top.


So, hypothetically, if the Knicks land the #1 overall pick, I'd like them to keep it than trade it.

But also, hypothetically, if every team had interest in it, and they were all dangling their players for that pick, who would you trade it for?

I'm thinking realistically, tho. For example, I'm not counting guys like kawhi, Davis, giannis, Zion, etc.

But who is a realistic player you would trade that pick for? Obviously can include the non important players or picks (randle, Knox, dsjr, Frank, clippers, Dallas)

Beal
Booker
Fox
J brown
Ingram (would rather go for FA)


Something along those lines. again, I just don't know how strong this draft is.

[Knick4Real]

So I'm not too familiar with how strong this draft is - I'm under the impression that it's not very strong, even towards the top.


So, hypothetically, if the Knicks land the #1 overall pick, I'd like them to keep it than trade it.

But also, hypothetically, if every team had interest in it, and they were all dangling their players for that pick, who would you trade it for?

I'm thinking realistically, tho. For example, I'm not counting guys like kawhi, Davis, giannis, Zion, etc.

But who is a realistic player you would trade that pick for? Obviously can include the non important players or picks (randle, Knox, dsjr, Frank, clippers, Dallas)

Beal
Booker
Fox
J brown
Ingram (would rather go for FA)


Something along those lines. again, I just don't know how strong this draft is.

I don't think any of the guys you mentioned would be available as a straight-up trade for the #1 pick. It would be the pick plus other assets. Besides, I think there's already a wink-and-a-nod agreement in place for us to get LaMelo.

[DowNY]

Hield looks like he'll be available in a trade.

I wonder what it would take to get him.

i'd rather not go for him, because he's going to eat up touches from the younger guys.


but if they want to take on any of the usual guys (randle, knox, dsjr) for him, then maybe that'd be fine. isn't buddy looking for a new contract, though?

Eat up touches from who? He’s 27 himself
And he already signed a deal at the beginning of the season.
He’s one of the league’s best shooters also. Perfect fit next to RJ.

[Clyde Frazier]

Read on Twitter

Struggled to find a place for this so just dropping it here. These are kinda bare minimum sample sizes, but still isn't nothing. That's flat out staggering and suggests Knox isn't such a lost cause. I still fear thibs doesn't give him a real shot but we'll see.

[Snacks]

So I'm not too familiar with how strong this draft is - I'm under the impression that it's not very strong, even towards the top.


So, hypothetically, if the Knicks land the #1 overall pick, I'd like them to keep it than trade it.

But also, hypothetically, if every team had interest in it, and they were all dangling their players for that pick, who would you trade it for?

I'm thinking realistically, tho. For example, I'm not counting guys like kawhi, Davis, giannis, Zion, etc.

But who is a realistic player you would trade that pick for? Obviously can include the non important players or picks (randle, Knox, dsjr, Frank, clippers, Dallas)

Beal
Booker
Fox
J brown
Ingram (would rather go for FA)


Something along those lines. again, I just don't know how strong this draft is.

I don't think any of the guys you mentioned would be available as a straight-up trade for the #1 pick. It would be the pick plus other assets. Besides, I think there's already a wink-and-a-nod agreement in place for us to get LaMelo.

Most people would agree that none of those players are available. But I for one believe that Ingram is going to make himself available.
1) no one wants to play for the pelicans
2)they had a chance to extend him, to show him that they wanted him. They didn’t, instead of embracing him they waited it out to test his health and his game. I don’t think he’ll forget that
3)most players of his caliber have to wait 7 years to live and play where they want. He will get his pick in his fifth season

My prediction is that he’ll go with AD’s playbook and say all the right things Until it’s time.
He’ll threaten to or even sign the qualifying offer and force a trade.

Knicks better be ready with the 1st pick and RJ as the core offer(no Mitch)

[Richard4444]

So I'm not too familiar with how strong this draft is - I'm under the impression that it's not very strong, even towards the top.


So, hypothetically, if the Knicks land the #1 overall pick, I'd like them to keep it than trade it.

But also, hypothetically, if every team had interest in it, and they were all dangling their players for that pick, who would you trade it for?

I'm thinking realistically, tho. For example, I'm not counting guys like kawhi, Davis, giannis, Zion, etc.

But who is a realistic player you would trade that pick for? Obviously can include the non important players or picks (randle, Knox, dsjr, Frank, clippers, Dallas)

Beal
Booker
Fox
J brown
Ingram (would rather go for FA)


Something along those lines. again, I just don't know how strong this draft is.

I don't think any of the guys you mentioned would be available as a straight-up trade for the #1 pick. It would be the pick plus other assets. Besides, I think there's already a wink-and-a-nod agreement in place for us to get LaMelo.

Most people would agree that none of those players are available. But I for one believe that Ingram is going to make himself available.
1) no one wants to play for the pelicans
2)they had a chance to extend him, to show him that they wanted him. They didn’t, instead of embracing him they waited it out to test his health and his game. I don’t think he’ll forget that
3)most players of his caliber have to wait 7 years to live and play where they want. He will get his pick in his fifth season

My prediction is that he’ll go with AD’s playbook and say all the right things Until it’s time.
He’ll threaten to or even sign the qualifying offer and force a trade.

Knicks better be ready with the 1st pick and RJ as the core offer(no Mitch)

1) No one has never asked for a trade just after signing a Max offer. They usually wait until year 7. AD asked for a trade at year 7. Even so, Pelicans played hardball and refused a good Lakers offer and put him in the dog house. They only accepted the offer after Lakers have got and included the 4th pick.

2) Pelicans have Zion. If he can control his weight, he can be an MVP candidate and make Pelicans a contender.

3) No one has ever refused a Max offer to take the QO. It's very unlikely to not re-sign. Especially a player who had a huge career-ending threatening medical condition.

4) After taking the QO, he became a rental contract. He will be a UFA in 2021 and his trade value drops a lot.

[Snacks]

Most people would agree that none of those players are available. But I for one believe that Ingram is going to make himself available.
1) no one wants to play for the pelicans
2)they had a chance to extend him, to show him that they wanted him. They didn’t, instead of embracing him they waited it out to test his health and his game. I don’t think he’ll forget that
3)most players of his caliber have to wait 7 years to live and play where they want. He will get his pick in his fifth season

My prediction is that he’ll go with AD’s playbook and say all the right things Until it’s time.
He’ll threaten to or even sign the qualifying offer and force a trade.

Knicks better be ready with the 1st pick and RJ as the core offer(no Mitch)

1) No one has never asked for a trade just after signing a Max offer. They usually wait until year 7. AD asked for a trade at year 7. Even so, Pelicans played hardball and refused a good Lakers offer and put him in the dog house. They only accepted the offer after Lakers have got and included the 4th pick.

2) Pelicans have Zion. If he can control his weight, he can be an MVP candidate and make Pelicans a contender.

3) No one has ever refused a Max offer to take the QO. It's very unlikely to not re-sign. Especially a player who had a huge career-ending threatening medical condition.

4) After taking the QO, he became a rental contract. He will be a UFA in 2021 and his trade value drops a lot.

Very confusing response. I guess I’ll try to simplify and clarify my prediction
Ingram will threaten to sign the QO(not sign it)
Scenario #1)with that threat in place,dropping of the cap, and hopefully a nasty offer sheet from the Knicks, the pelicans will allow Ingram to sign with the understanding that they wont match
Scenario #2)to keep from losing him for nothing, with the threat of a QO, the pelicans will sign and trade him

the point is he won’t sign the max. I never meant to say or imply that he would sign the max then ask for a trade

[Richard4444]

Most people would agree that none of those players are available. But I for one believe that Ingram is going to make himself available.
1) no one wants to play for the pelicans
2)they had a chance to extend him, to show him that they wanted him. They didn’t, instead of embracing him they waited it out to test his health and his game. I don’t think he’ll forget that
3)most players of his caliber have to wait 7 years to live and play where they want. He will get his pick in his fifth season

My prediction is that he’ll go with AD’s playbook and say all the right things Until it’s time.
He’ll threaten to or even sign the qualifying offer and force a trade.

Knicks better be ready with the 1st pick and RJ as the core offer(no Mitch)

1) No one has never asked for a trade just after signing a Max offer. They usually wait until year 7. AD asked for a trade at year 7. Even so, Pelicans played hardball and refused a good Lakers offer and put him in the dog house. They only accepted the offer after Lakers have got and included the 4th pick.

2) Pelicans have Zion. If he can control his weight, he can be an MVP candidate and make Pelicans a contender.

3) No one has ever refused a Max offer to take the QO. It's very unlikely to not re-sign. Especially a player who had a huge career-ending threatening medical condition.

4) After taking the QO, he became a rental contract. He will be a UFA in 2021 and his trade value drops a lot.

Very confusing response. I guess I’ll try to simplify and clarify my prediction
Ingram will threaten to sign the QO(not sign it)
Scenario #1)with that threat in place,dropping of the cap, and hopefully a nasty offer sheet from the Knicks, the pelicans will allow Ingram to sign with the understanding that they wont match
Scenario #2)to keep from losing him for nothing, with the threat of a QO, the pelicans will sign and trade him

the point is he won’t sign the max. I never meant to say or imply that he would sign the max then ask for a trade

If Ingram accepts the offer, Pelicans will match. It's all that Pelicans want that Ingram accepts the Knicks offer sheet. To run away from The Pelicans, Ingram needs to not accept an offer from any team. Take the QO. And play one more year as a Pelican.

The sign and trade scenario is not impossible. But Pelicans would have to truly believe that Ingram will take the QO. I dont think Ingram will play chicken with Pelicans. Even then, Pelicans can roll the dice and try to trade Ingram after getting the QO, if they think they can get a better offer than the Knicks one. Teams like Miami may buy a promise from Ingram to re-sign in 2021 and make a serious bid.

[dakomish23]

19.0 PPG 4.0 RPG 3.7 APG 1.0 SPG
45% on 15.7 FGA
44% on 8.0 3PA
90% on 1.7 FTA

That’s Bodgan 6 games in the bubble

Him or Buddy will likely not be in SAC for 20-21 & I suspect we will attempt to get the other.

[knickstape4ever]

19.0 PPG 4.0 RPG 3.7 APG 1.0 SPG
45% on 15.7 FGA
44% on 8.0 3PA
90% on 1.7 FTA

That’s Bodgan 6 games in the bubble

Him or Buddy will likely not be in SAC for 20-21 & I suspect we will attempt to get the other.

either would be a great addition. I'd also target Malik Beasley, he's a RFA like Bogdan tho, which makes it complicated

Beasley after the trade to the Wolves:

14 games:
20.7 PPG, 5.1 REB, 1.9 AST,
FG%: 47.2 (16.6 FGA)
3PT%: 42.6% (8.2 3PA)