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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1861 » by sco » Sun Aug 9, 2020 3:42 pm

wonderboy2 wrote:Man this is not the draft to trade down. There are only a handful of players I like. Ball, Edwards, Wiseman, Danni, Topping, Okorro, Vessel. A lot of these players I don’t see how they fit with the bulls but I wouldn’t worry about that. When you are a young team like the bulls you just work on adding talent. Hayes look pretty good.

I like those guys, but see "starter upside" and no likely allstars in the that lot. Don't get me wrong, it's still possible, but I think the normal odds for a top 3 pick to be an allstar are like 10%, I see these guys in the 2-4% range.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1862 » by Chicagoat » Sun Aug 9, 2020 6:23 pm

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/08/2020-nba-draft-lottery-update.html

Can't wait. 2 more weeks until the Draft Lottery. Let's hope we move up, so AK has more to work with.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1863 » by kodo » Sun Aug 9, 2020 7:06 pm

We have a 32% chance of a top 4 pick, solid chance of moving up.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1864 » by Jvaughn » Sun Aug 9, 2020 7:47 pm

Chicagoat wrote:https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/08/2020-nba-draft-lottery-update.html

Can't wait. 2 more weeks until the Draft Lottery. Let's hope we move up, so AK has more to work with.


I really have a sinking feeling that we're going to drop out of our current projection.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1865 » by Chicagoat » Sun Aug 9, 2020 8:11 pm

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Chicagoat wrote:https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/08/2020-nba-draft-lottery-update.html

Can't wait. 2 more weeks until the Draft Lottery. Let's hope we move up, so AK has more to work with.


I really have a sinking feeling that we're going to drop out of our current projection.



It would be the Bulls type of luck to win the number 1 pick in a historically mediocre draft.

I mean we did get 3 #7 picks in a row, that has to mean that we'll win the jackpot this year.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1866 » by TheSuzerain » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:51 pm

When does the board start clamoring for Poku? After we get the #7 pick again?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1867 » by MrSparkle » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:22 pm

I'm kind of ready to get a head-start on moving beyond Lauri at the PF position (and Thad)... getting a more physical specimen who can do more on the defensive end. At least getting a project going - any Pascal, Harrell or Draymond types in this draft?

Precious Achiuwa looks interesting. He isn't winning any ball-skill contests, but he can put the ball on the floor and hit a jumpshot. Meanwhile his rebounding and defensive activity seem really, really good.

I know everyone is high on Gafford, but I personally am luke-warm on him. He's got very exciting hops and power, but virtually no skills, and with that long bargain contract, I feel you can a great sell-high return than what he'll contribute to this team in the long run (side note, nobody really cried in HOU when they dumped Capella's big contract, they only cried when he first got that big contract).

Trade Gafford for a #14-18 pick (Precious)?

Or Poku? He is a super raw project though.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1868 » by Chicagoat » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:35 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:When does the board start clamoring for Poku? After we get the #7 pick again?



I like Poku and I think he'll be a great player but top ten is too high for him imo. Personally, I would try to trade for Boston's 16th pick. Because they have too many picks for this year's draft and not enough roster space. I can see them being sellers in this years draft.

I would also try to snag Romeo Langford as well, for the right price.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1869 » by Jvaughn » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:29 am

Chicagoat wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:When does the board start clamoring for Poku? After we get the #7 pick again?



I like Poku and I think he'll be a great player but top ten is too high for him imo. Personally, I would try to trade for Boston's 16th pick. Because they have too many picks for this year's draft and not enough roster space. I can see them being sellers in this years draft.

I would also try to snag Romeo Langford as well, for the right price.


You would hope they'd be sellers, but they've been in this position before in 2016 where they had 7 draft picks and didn't package any of them. They weren't even able to sign one of their first round picks due to roster size.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1870 » by Chicagoat » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:01 am

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TheSuzerain wrote:When does the board start clamoring for Poku? After we get the #7 pick again?



I like Poku and I think he'll be a great player but top ten is too high for him imo. Personally, I would try to trade for Boston's 16th pick. Because they have too many picks for this year's draft and not enough roster space. I can see them being sellers in this years draft.

I would also try to snag Romeo Langford as well, for the right price.


You would hope they'd be sellers, but they've been in this position before in 2016 where they had 7 draft picks and didn't package any of them. They weren't even able to sign one of their first round picks due to roster size.


Yeah, Ainge can be pretty stingy at times with his picks. I get it though, most GMs will low ball him since they know he wants to sell. Especially leading to a mediocre draft.

Kind of funny though, Ainge mismanaged this war chest of picks that he has managed to build so far. Goes to show that having so many picks over so many years does not really guarantee you a dynasty. Hopefully the Thunder will learn from Ainge's mistakes.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1871 » by SMTBSI » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:56 am

Jvaughn wrote:
Chicagoat wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:When does the board start clamoring for Poku? After we get the #7 pick again?



I like Poku and I think he'll be a great player but top ten is too high for him imo. Personally, I would try to trade for Boston's 16th pick. Because they have too many picks for this year's draft and not enough roster space. I can see them being sellers in this years draft.

I would also try to snag Romeo Langford as well, for the right price.


You would hope they'd be sellers, but they've been in this position before in 2016 where they had 7 draft picks and didn't package any of them. They weren't even able to sign one of their first round picks due to roster size.

Assuming MEM misses the playoffs and hands us the #14 pick, what sort of trade are you thinking about here? A trade-down, or something else entirely?

If a trade-down, I have to imagine any of our picks this year (#14, #27, #30, #47), as well as the Langfords of the world, are probably on the table.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1872 » by JohnnyTapwater » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:43 am

I think 2 mid to late 1st round picks would be better than 1 mid lottery pick this year.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1873 » by Jvaughn » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:09 pm

SMTBSI wrote:
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Chicagoat wrote:

I like Poku and I think he'll be a great player but top ten is too high for him imo. Personally, I would try to trade for Boston's 16th pick. Because they have too many picks for this year's draft and not enough roster space. I can see them being sellers in this years draft.

I would also try to snag Romeo Langford as well, for the right price.


You would hope they'd be sellers, but they've been in this position before in 2016 where they had 7 draft picks and didn't package any of them. They weren't even able to sign one of their first round picks due to roster size.

Assuming MEM misses the playoffs and hands us the #14 pick, what sort of trade are you thinking about here? A trade-down, or something else entirely?

If a trade-down, I have to imagine any of our picks this year (#14, #27, #30, #47), as well as the Langfords of the world, are probably on the table.


Depending on where we land, I wouldn't have an issue trading away Lauri and our pick for 14, 27 and Langford.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1874 » by Jvaughn » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:11 pm

What the hell is going on with Killian Hayes draft stock the last few weeks? This draft is startimg to seem eerily like the 2013 draft with no clear cut #1 and a bunch of solid players that are similarly skilled scattered from mid lottery to mid 2nd round.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1875 » by SMTBSI » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:55 am

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You would hope they'd be sellers, but they've been in this position before in 2016 where they had 7 draft picks and didn't package any of them. They weren't even able to sign one of their first round picks due to roster size.

Assuming MEM misses the playoffs and hands us the #14 pick, what sort of trade are you thinking about here? A trade-down, or something else entirely?

If a trade-down, I have to imagine any of our picks this year (#14, #27, #30, #47), as well as the Langfords of the world, are probably on the table.


Depending on where we land, I wouldn't have an issue trading away Lauri and our pick for 14, 27 and Langford.

MEM at 14 right now, last game of the season pending.

If your FO is actually thinking along these lines, I would have to think something could be worked out. Sounds like a rare case where our objectives actually intersect.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1876 » by Leslie Forman » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:49 am

So why is this Aaron Nesmith kid only expected to go in the mid-teens? This league wants shooters. This draft is full of guys who can't shoot. This guy is a goddamn shooter. Is he really that bad at everything else? Because on the surface he seems like an absolutely clear sleeper pick.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1877 » by Jvaughn » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:06 am

Leslie Forman wrote:So why is this Aaron Nesmith kid only expected to go in the mid-teens? This league wants shooters. This draft is full of guys who can't shoot. This guy is a goddamn shooter. Is he really that bad at everything else? Because on the surface he seems like an absolutely clear sleeper pick.


He's kind of an enigma. He's a great shooter. Both spot up and I'm the move. He's a solid defender with pretty good potential to keep improving. Those are the positives. Now on the negative side, he's not a plus athlete, struggles at finishing, and doesn't give you much in the creating department. Now I can see him ending up as a Khris Middleton as his ceiling if his ball handling improves, but I can just as easily see him becoming a slightly better Tony Snell. If we trade down, I'd definitely take a chance on him if Vassell is already gone in that mid 1st range.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1878 » by drosereturn » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:18 am

Chicagoat wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
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I like Poku and I think he'll be a great player but top ten is too high for him imo. Personally, I would try to trade for Boston's 16th pick. Because they have too many picks for this year's draft and not enough roster space. I can see them being sellers in this years draft.

I would also try to snag Romeo Langford as well, for the right price.


You would hope they'd be sellers, but they've been in this position before in 2016 where they had 7 draft picks and didn't package any of them. They weren't even able to sign one of their first round picks due to roster size.


Yeah, Ainge can be pretty stingy at times with his picks. I get it though, most GMs will low ball him since they know he wants to sell. Especially leading to a mediocre draft.

Kind of funny though, Ainge mismanaged this war chest of picks that he has managed to build so far. Goes to show that having so many picks over so many years does not really guarantee you a dynasty. Hopefully the Thunder will learn from Ainge's mistakes.


Poku is the type you long term develop like Giannis.
Even if he was the 2nd coming of Giannis, not drafting with a top lottery pick. The answer is trade down if Ball is off the board for Bostons 16th pick and 2 late picks, figure out where Poku will go and draft him with one of the picks.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1879 » by othawhitemeat » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:15 am

Jvaughn wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:So why is this Aaron Nesmith kid only expected to go in the mid-teens? This league wants shooters. This draft is full of guys who can't shoot. This guy is a goddamn shooter. Is he really that bad at everything else? Because on the surface he seems like an absolutely clear sleeper pick.


He's kind of an enigma. He's a great shooter. Both spot up and I'm the move. He's a solid defender with pretty good potential to keep improving. Those are the positives. Now on the negative side, he's not a plus athlete, struggles at finishing, and doesn't give you much in the creating department. Now I can see him ending up as a Khris Middleton as his ceiling if his ball handling improves, but I can just as easily see him becoming a slightly better Tony Snell. If we trade down, I'd definitely take a chance on him if Vassell is already gone in that mid 1st range.


Hes not Tony Snell in any imagination. Tony did not play at a high major, shoot 50% from three and was timid. This guy was the best player in the SEC last year.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1880 » by Jvaughn » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:24 pm

othawhitemeat wrote:
Jvaughn wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:So why is this Aaron Nesmith kid only expected to go in the mid-teens? This league wants shooters. This draft is full of guys who can't shoot. This guy is a goddamn shooter. Is he really that bad at everything else? Because on the surface he seems like an absolutely clear sleeper pick.


He's kind of an enigma. He's a great shooter. Both spot up and I'm the move. He's a solid defender with pretty good potential to keep improving. Those are the positives. Now on the negative side, he's not a plus athlete, struggles at finishing, and doesn't give you much in the creating department. Now I can see him ending up as a Khris Middleton as his ceiling if his ball handling improves, but I can just as easily see him becoming a slightly better Tony Snell. If we trade down, I'd definitely take a chance on him if Vassell is already gone in that mid 1st range.


Hes not Tony Snell in any imagination. Tony did not play at a high major, shoot 50% from three and was timid. This guy was the best player in the SEC last year.


Yes his 3pt% is much higher than Snell's was, but as for what his impact may be at the next level, I standby my position. Just my opinion.

He's not a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination due to the limitations I mentioned. If he were, he wouldn't be projected as a mid 1st round pick in a bad draft.
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